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btw i have to bring this up too Hosho DB hp - 1360 hp Manfred Richtofen DB hp - 1390 hp whaat?

You can but enemy must be complete potato to eat all of them.

German CV stats are soo wrong and messed up I hope it's just a placeholder stat --- but still i want to give it a shot and make stats that looks more balanced and more like a Graf Zeppelin but on all other tier-- @TanatoyI hope you guys planning on making them more like GZ rather then Japanese wannabe CV line but full AP- and sorry for almost copying everything from dev blog. I have changed things like Armor plating of T8 and T10 to 21 mm. All aircrafts changed. Torpedo stats changed to be similar to GZ. I hope these stats will be changed in future because gimmicks of this line is not like GZ. Before anyone say "Zeppy dive bombers are bad", German CV line getting different reticle that's similar to Japanese and American DB so don't worry about it.

Everything on this line looks sooo wrong. T8 and T10 has 19 mm plating that supposed to be 21 similar to GZ. T10 aircrafts using T8 GZ aircrafts. Torpedos hit hard but slow and can't arm fast enough to be usefull. T8 doesn't has T4 aircrafts as stock. Weser doesn't have Stuka's. Speed of planes at T4 to T8 is similar to Japan. I have to say i rather like to see simillar aircraft gameplay like GZ mediocre damage but very fast planes unlike this setup.

Some of my friends asking, Is planes on T6 to T10 carriers was just a placeholder for stream right?

Only difference is AA and Radar system and maybe superstructure other then that Secondary 150 is missing.

She is Graf Zeppelin's sister she just doesn't have 150 mm guns.

no Z35 has 127 mm guns in Maas setup.

So Agir is announced and i checked her stats, she disappointed me in first sight, she has no spotter, she has 18.5 km range, same armor profile as Siegfried, almost same AA as Siegfried, so i thinked why not compare her against other T9 cruisers. first i gonna put other ships stat starting with Kronshtadt Kronshtadt HP: 71,050 hp Size of the ship: Big with 250 meters long Armor: 25 mm all around with 230 mm armor belt armor. her torpedo belt is great with 34% torpedo dmg reduction. Armament: has 9 305 mm guns with great accuracy and 18.5 second reload and great ballistics on AP but with 18.2 km range, she has 8 secondary guns as well. AA: Almost non existing. Maneuverability: 33.5 knots speed, 840 metres turning circle, 14.9 second rudder shift time Consumables: Slot 1: Damage Control Party ()Slot 2: Defensive AA Fire () or Spotting Aircraft ()Slot 3: Surveillance Radar ()Slot 4: Repair Party () Concealment: 16.2 base concealment which is Battleship lvl Kronshtadt has awesome armor and awesome guns with awesome consumable set up phew atleast anyone can't get her anymore normally anymore, she can use both radar and use spotter aircraft which makes her fire range up to somewhere around 20 km. secondly Alaska. Alaska CB-1 HP: 60,800 hp Size of the ship: Big with 246 meters long Armor: 27 mm bow and 36 mm deck armor, 228 mm armor belt , has Armament: has 9 305 mm guns with great accuracy and 20 second reload and great ballistics on AP but with 19 km range and american lazy arc, she has 6 Dual purpose secondary guns as well. AA: great typical American AA Maneuverability: 33 knots speed, 850 metres turning circle, 13 second rudder shift time Consumables: Slot 1: Damage Control Party ()Slot 2: Defensive AA Fire () or Hydroacoustic Search ()Slot 3: Repair Party ()Slot 4: Surveillance Radar () or Catapult Fighter () or Spotting Aircraft () Concealment: 15.5 smol battleship All around Alaska is great Largecruiser with decent range,decent guns and decent armor her radar is bonus to complete a great ship. as third Azuma. Azuma HP: 60,800 hp Size of the ship: decently big with 240 meters long Armor: all around 25 mm with giant citadel Armament: has 9 310 mm guns with great accuracy and 20 second reload and great HE but with 19.1 km range and bad AP, she has 8 Dual purpose secondary guns as well. AA: Typical japanese AA which is bad Maneuverability: 34 knots speed, 920 metres turning circle, 13.9 second rudder shift time Consumables: Slot 1: Damage Control Party ()Slot 2: Defensive AA Fire () or Hydroacoustic Search ()Slot 3: Repair Party ()Slot 4: Catapult Fighter () or Spotting Aircraft () Concealment: 15.1 decent concealment of her type oh yeah Azuma one of the worst T9 because of armor, her citadel is shaped like Yamato with 25 mm out plating so all BBs just goes through and citadels Azuma. her guns are great with HE and with spotter plane she get 21 or 22 km range which is great for her. 4th Siegfried which is still under testing. Siegfried HP: 62,850 hp Size of the ship: Biggest and thickest T9 cruiser with 256 meters long Armor: 27 mm bow and aft and 30 mm deck armor, 190 mm armor belt , has 90 mm upper belt armor Armament: has 6 380 mm guns with great accuracy and 26 second reload and she has awesome german AP and with 20 km range but HE is typical German HE with low alpha and low fire chance, she has 7 Dual purpose secondary guns and 6 km torpedos AA: great AA for T9 German cruiser,she has 55 mm AA mounts. Maneuverability: 33.5 knots speed, 880 metres turning circle, 14 second rudder shift time Consumables: Slot 1: Damage Control Party ()Slot 2: Defensive AA Fire () or Hydroacoustic Search ()Slot 3: Repair Party ()Slot 4: Catapult Fighter () or Spotting Aircraft () Concealment: 15.1 awesome for German cruiser. Overall Siegfried is decent Battlecruiser her giant bow is her biggest weakness but unlike Agir she can stay at back and do fire support against enemy cruisers and Battleships just like other German cruisers, 380 mm guns her allies but her enemy aswell with slow rate of fire. lastly upcoming Agir,still not even tested but she looks bad. Agir HP: 62,850 hp Size of the ship: Biggest and thickest T9 cruiser with 256 meters long Armor: 27 mm bow and aft and 30 mm deck armor, 190 mm armor belt , has 90 mm upper belt armor Armament: has 9 305 mm guns with great accuracy and 22 second reload and she has awesome german AP and but 18.5 km range and HE is typical German HE with low alpha and low fire chance, she has 9 Dual purpose secondary guns and 6 km torpedos AA: Almost same AA as Siegfried ,she has 55 mm AA mounts. Maneuverability: 33.5 knots speed, 880 metres turning circle, 14 second rudder shift time Consumables: Slot 1: Damage Control Party ()Slot 2: Defensive AA Fire () or Hydroacoustic Search ()Slot 3: Repair Party () Concealment: 15.1 awesome for German cruiser. Well she's heavily downgreaded Siegfried, has same armor profile which is her weakness, she has 18.5 km range which is decent but when people focus this ship that range might not be enough and she can't use spotter plane and guns reloads slowest of her type same as PR which PR has 12 guns and at T10. Overall she's second worst with Azuma right now and needs little changes before testing. maybe range or some sort of armor buff to bow like ice breeaker armor. Siegfried is special on her way and she feels nice to me but Agir feels bad very bad actually we can't compare her against any other cruiser just like Siegfried. she just falls behind Azuma,Alaska and Kronshtadt. comment your comprasion of them, your opinions i mean. I'm out!

I'm going to add this here. This is Riga i remember someone told me Siegfried can't have 40 mm icebreaker armor. Then why Riga has it. And this is Ägir. Which supposed to be close range cruiser brawler like new Soviet ships. Very good balancing WG very good. If you wonder what's the problem Ägir can't do bow tank due to Vladivostok like bow and it being unarmored. As the recent nerfs happened Ägir right now is very mediocre with guns but secondaries they are very useful right now. shortly watch Flamu's video.

I want to suggest a permenant camo for T8 to T10 ships similar to Infernal camo concept. You gonna be able to buy and apply the camo on ship you want, it will become permanant to chosen ship just like Infernal camo but this camo is good old Arctic camo from old event. Like can't we have Arctic camo for T8 to T10 ships. I love to use it on my Hindenburg,Siegfried(if she comes out),GK,Thunderer,JB, Graf Zeppelin even maybe on Georgia. Why not Arctic camo has less detail then Infernal camo.

Does anyone know what gonna Moskva owners gonna get as compensate especially the premium camo owners? I know we are keepeing the ship but who doesn't have the camo and who buys her with coal gonna get that camo for free after they move her to armory. I feel like tricked because im student and i can't find money to get doubloon and i bought camo few months ago and then this happened ,every 1 doubloon is very important to me so if anyone know please tell me?

This nerf was overnerf now. Its very mediocre at best now.

Me having same thought-

Imma add that i made German CV proposal 8 month ago and i keep updated it even after AP rocket announcment. here is it remember to use white or classic theme because dark and space doesn't work.

It wasn't enough tho, bombs doesn't hit the target often and dispers around the circle and when hit you either do 7 K or if you lucky you do maximum 14 k. Meanwhile Shoukaku does 22.800 dmg maximum with 3 bombs and Enterprise does 36 k damage maximum with 6 bomb.(these all full citadel damage)

Now imma ask what happened to Graf Zeppelin dive bomber buff? We have been promised 3 months ago on EU stream but we never got any news about it. Like they really need a buff, their accuracy is bad, their maximum DMG is comperable to T6 Japanese AP bombs? Like c'mon she already has mediocre torpedo and slow attack aircrafts with mediocre health on every squadron.

I got suggestion for Zeppelin's dive bombers. First her reticle isn't right it shows when it becomes accurate not where attack finishes.What i'm saying is you can do low altitude carpet bombing with her dive bombers but reticle doesn't show it by that reason it's confuses player in my opinion and they need dedicated time to learn how you bomb and consistently get citadels. See you still have 4 seconds to attack on almost sea lvl. as i played with Graf Zeppelin bunch of times 2 thing is wrong with her Dive bombers. 1.)reticle is inaccurate, There should be second reticle in yellow color to show finish line of the attack and needs to write something like finish line next to it to not confuse players but show you still have time when you fully dived down. 2.)Her attack flight consists 2 plane which has 1 bomb per plane with 7k maximum dmg. When we compare her against other T8 AP bombs she is way too behind with maximum dmg of 14 k while Shoukaku is at 22,800 and Enterprise at 36 k maximum damage. Zeppelin's dive bombers has almost T6 lvl of AP bombs(which is very similar to Ryujo interms of maximum dmg).Way to fix it is make squadron 9 rather then 8 and make attack flight 3 plane with this maximum dmg will be 21k which is very close to Shoukaku. Way to fix this is add one more plane to Squadron to make maximum dmg to 21k and add second reticle to dive bomb that shows finish line of the attack flight.

Siegfried coming as T9,now the question is when because Blitz already got Siegfried for some reason.

AP rockets wil not be that OP in my opinion, maybe against some cruisers and BBs but ships like Zao,Hindenburg,Yoshino,Goliath and Henri will have chance to dodge because of planes can't turn well while attacking. HE rockets still can deal free damage while AP is more of avoidable dmg. Its great counter to bow tanking Moskva,Stalingrad like ships. American CVs might not get this rockets i think. Japan has AP bombs. Brit ships have decent AP outside light cruisers but i think German CVs might be a thing now with choice of 40 mm pen HE or heavy hitting German AP rockets. Im very excited about future now.

I think i have to finish my German battleship premium line,I realized I have accidentally made Georgia like premium line for Germans so imma finish them first before going for anything else. Here we go T9 Wörth is H40A design battleship. She has torpedos like Tirpitz but with T9 they get Hydro unlike Tirpitz. Georgia has Speed boost and has 6 big guns,Wörth has Hydro and Torpedos with 6 guns. I gonna use Siegfried pictures because of She is similar to H40A design. Real life measurements 64.575 tons 282,9 meters lenght 38 meters beam 11 meters draft 6 x Dual 406 mm guns 230,000 SHP 32,2 knots stats of T9 German battleship Wörth Armor Main belt: 330 mm mid, 60 mm forward,90 mm aft Upper belt: 145 mm Torpedo bulkhead: 45 mm Decks: 100-120 mm main,50-80 mm armored deck Bulkheads:220 mm Turrets: 385 mm face,240 mm side, 130 mm roof Conning tower: 390 mm TIX Wörth Ship name:Wörth Ship Tier:T9 Ship class:Battleship Ship Nation:Germany Health points:86,500 hp Torpedo damage protection:29% Main battery 3 Dual 406 mm L/52 Drh LC/34 guns Reload: 24 second 180 degree turn time: 36 second Range of fire: 20.1 km Maximum dispersion: 231 meters Sigma: 1.9 HE Shell 406 mm Spr.Gr.L/4.4 Kz Maximum HE damage:4,800 Fire chance:38% Initial HE velocity:810 m/s AP shell 406 mm P.Spr.Gr.L/4.4 Maximum damage:12,700 Initial HE Velocity:810 m/s Secondary armament: 6 Dual 150 mm L/55 SK C/28 guns Fire range:7.6 km Reload:7.5 seconds HE damage:1,700 Initial HE velocity:875 m/s 8 Dual 105 mm L/61 KM41 guns Firing range:7.6 km reload time:3.6 seconds HE damag:1,500 Initial HE velocity:820 m/s Torpedo armament 2 quad 533 mm Veirling torpedo reload time:90 second 180 degree turn time:7.2 second Maximum damage:13,700 range:6 km speed:64 knots AA Armaments: Long range 8 Dual 105 mm L/61 KM41 guns N of explosion:4 Within explosion damage:1540 continuous damage:210 hit probility:75% Mid Range AA 24 Dual 37 mm LM/42 Zwilling AA guns continuous damage:375 hit probility:80% Short Range 6 quad 20 mm Flakvierling 38 guns continuous damage:215 hit probility:75% Mobility 32 knots 940 m turning radius 16.3 second rudder shift time Concealments 16.2 km base concealment 12.1 km air detectability 17 km after firing inside smoke Consumables Slot 1:Damage control 10 second work time---90(60) second reload Slot 2:Repair party Charges:3(4) Action time: 28 second Reload time: 120(80) second heal rate:0.5% /sec Slot 3: Hydro acoustic search charges:2(3) action time:120 s reload time:180(120)s 3 km torpedo detection 5 km ship detection Slot 4: Spotter or fighter So with this ship i have finished German premium battleship line, main gimmick of them is like russian but raher then Damage con and heals these have Torpedo and Hydro, my plan is make Tirpitz more accurate in 12 km and then this and Weissenburg will follow this gimmick but with addition of short range Hydro. T10 Weissenburg: I have another ship idea which is another T10 German battleship,H40A but modified with Grosser Kurfürst's triple turrets,and she gets Russian accuracy she's down below aswell: And that's it i think.

I have another suggestion this time German CV branch and idea for German event for second flag and alternative camo scheme. I have made post about German CVs half a year ago and its nice for a line- Black theme doesn't work use white or classic to read it- With German CV line event we finally can get German second flag and alternative camo.

FDG is really the H39 but GK is unkown, she's not H42 or H43 she's in middle of both, GK is WGs imaginary BB. Size should matter actually for turning radius and concealment.And H41 is very similar to Montana class so H41 reasonably can have better turning circle and concealment.And for HE spam German tech tree line needs something similar to 40 second recharge special heal(similar to American secondary premiums but German) to courage brawling and front line tanking.And maybe saturation improvement for supersructure like how french DDs have improved saturation. Actually i'm waiting for H42,she's smaller then GK by 6 meters so why not German BB with 8 480 mm guns.

German BB rework suggestion Okay This is more of a T10 rework but some stuff like heal in my opinion must be changed from 80 second recharge to 40 or 50 second recharge to courage brawling all across the Tech tree. ♦now we come to a T10 the Großer Kurfürst, GK is bit behind of other T10 BBs as a late her role of front line tank is stolen by Ohio and Kremlin. And recent HE spam meta and CV rework stuff made GK fall behind and buffing her will be trouble so in my opinion she should be moved to Armory just like Moskva and new T10 real H41 should be added. Why remove GK? She's too large and not easy to maneuver and gun angles and AA and armor,health and like i said size. ♦Look at her she's bigger then Kremlin by 20 meters, She's very special by her size but she's not good,she's bit of a pain to play with. ♦Now to the H41, She's real life continue of H39 with better rudder ,better guns ,Better AA and kinda same armor to FDG. ♦Due to H41 designed with 420 mm guns,FDG will lose her 420 mm option. This 420 mm guns will have 24 second base reload and bit improved accuracy but not like Ohio or Thunderer's accuracy just bit worse then them.Back turret firing angle might be able to improved with H41.Maximum range of fire will be 21 km. ♦Due to her size and ugrades that Germany planned over H39, she should be more maneuverable with 12 or 13 second max rudder and with 950 meter turning radius. ♦H41 should save her deck armor from H39 where some parts of deck will be 80 mm armor but most will be still with 50 mm. Bow and aft will have that 60 mm cover but it's more similar to FDG. ♦Her secondaries will consist of 6 x dual 150 mm and 8 x dual 128 mm guns. They are GK secondaries nothing different then GK only its bit more historical accurate. ♦She should have Normal Damage control,reworked German heal and German Hydro and Fighter or spotter as consumables. ♦Her detectibility should be similar to FDG. ♦Her AA suite will have 14 dual 55 mm Gerät 58 and 20 quad 20 mm Flakvierling 38 guns with maximum continuous damage of 400 or higher. ♦Her torpedo protection should be 30 or higher due to German's tried to improve torpedo protection on H41. ♦Her HP pool should be 101,800 because her displacement is in middle of GK and Montana with 79,000 tons with full load while Montana is 70,965 tons and GK is around 90,000 tons. ♦Her base speed will be 29 knots. That's it i think. German BB line needs some love. Need something to make them brawlers again and my suggestion to that is this.

Siegfried can work very well for T9 but she has problems like damage per minute and armor. German HE isn't that great and reload doesn't compensate that weak HE. Changing shell type is very much a choice due to reload is slow then average for a cruiser. Secondly bow is big as Battleships but unarmored, Agir has the same issue. Unlike other German cruisers Siegfried and Agir doesn't get 40 mm icebreaker armor. Don't know why tho WG wants to make Siegfried and Agir as some sort of secondary brawlers but without that lower part bow armor you really don't want to enter 12 km to any BB.