Aragathor

Over time German BBs have been passed by the meta and WG has not done anything, the ships kept the drawbacks and lost their strengths. The introduction of the Massachusetts didn't help, as it immediately overshadowed Tirpitz and Bismarck. Recently WG acknowledged that secondaries are in a bad spot, but we haven't seen anything on the horizon that would herald changes. You should consider not playing high tier German secondary focused ships like the Bismarck.

My clan has several members who can't use the chat, others don't see each other in chat, others are locked in a division. Looks like the servers are barely functional.

Reading the opinions on other subforums (thank bob I'm multilingual). Germans are just pissed, Polish comments are straight standup material: "It's like grinding the FdG, but with the difference that you can't finish it with fXP." "I thought the name Nerves of Steel for the missions was dumb, I was wrong." "PEF shells are good for scaring fish in the water around the enemy ship." "PEFs accuracy is like a yeti. Rumored to exist, but no one has seen it." "PEF had a typo in the tier placement, it should have been TIV instead of TVI, but now they are too embarrassed to correct it."

Sure they will. But why should they keep dead weight on sale? That's because YY is a silver ship and PEF is a premium. And YY is a very narrowly specialized DD.

I just noticed that the Hall of Fame somehow moved the percentage goalposts, as if a lot of the progress got reset. Also, no chat, no CBs.

I think the only way to make the ship more comfortable and attractive again, is to have some small buffs and see whether they help. Large buffs overshoot the target most of the time. I'm for more rudder shift like @Allied_Winterproposed a few posts back.

Tough luck for WG to sell the boat after the events end. Who wants to buy a ship that's not fun to play? There was this thread going on for some time: But why would Mordor listen to what Gondor is saying?

That's short sighted. After the event WG will want to sell it for money, sales won't be helped by people asking about the ship and getting "it's garbage" as an answer. Already the majority of CC reviews are negative.

Thanks. I saw the stream yesterday and a lot of people were asking for Blyskawica buffs. With the community and even some CCs like Flamu saying the ship is bad, and the devs claiming it's alright based on stats, we are moving towards a stalemate. I think you saw what people wrote here, and I don't think anyone wants to have the ship being OP. But the devs should be aware of the overall attitude towards the ship and it would be nice to see what they are basing their responses on.

Could you please post them so that we can see how well the Blyskawica is doing compared to other T7 DDs, and how those stats differ from the ones I posted?

I think that both the concealment module and the concealment skill should go. They are no brainers. Instead WG should just give everyone a 20% improved concealment and look at making varied builds interesting, instead of pigeon holing everyone with concealment.

Thank you for making this point, I really hoped someone would argue that top % of players do well in that ship. Here's a joke, there are ten men, nine have 100€ in their pocket, one has 1100€ in his pocket, on average they all have 200€. This the method used to tell poor people that they have it good, because using an average with an outlier skews the whole calculation. Last week 476 players played the Blyskawica, assuming 10% did really well in her that's 47,6 players. And because of those 47,6 players the remaining 428,4 players will keep having bad games, as the top 10% have good stats ergo the ship is good. You should never, ever, balance something based on the top performers. You should always try to get the median performance and start from there, this includes removing outliers like the best and worst players. Also, this is an entertainment product, people use it for fun and paid for the Blyska to have fun in her. If you want to prove yourself, try saving the Vaquitas.

Ops are also great if one can find a team to play a T6 one.

It took me only two hours to get the overall values of all T7 DDs listed and sorted, so let's dive in. I have excluded AA and consumables, and also taken stock ships with only the camo applied. Survival That is health, concealment and maneuverability. Guns Torpedoes Before I summarize the raw value situation of the ship, I must say that I'm surprised at how strong the power creep is at this tier. It's incredible that introducing a few more ships made Blyskawica obsolete in the meta. So where does the ship stand? On the way out, sadly. There is nothing really outstanding about Blyska. The one remaining strength, the range and velocity combo, suffers from bad DPM. You can take another ship, take a hit in one of the two categories and perform better. On a lark I looked at Akatsuki's HE DPM with BFT and it was better. That's right, a Japanese torpedo boat has better guns now than a dedicated gunboat named Blyskawica. Every other category has better ships, and where the Blyskawica could have had an advantage it has been power creeped by new arrivals. What can be done? A straight 1s (15%) reload buff would return Blyskawica to the top of the gunboats as the Alpha combined with RoF would make it the third highest DPM DD at tier (after Haida and Mahan). Another option would be to increase the comfort of the ship by lowering the detection range by 150m and improving the rudder shift by 1s. This would allow players to be more aggressive, as they would be able to ambush others and better juke the enemy's shots. Neither of those two buffs, assuming one is applied, would make the ship overpowered, but anything less would have no effect as the ship is already in a very bad spot.

I have been a naughty boy and for my second WoWS birthday I received coal. Compared to other SCs recently this is a really good drop. Not outstanding though, as I see here people getting much better rewards.

The stat difference between the worst and best ship should be as small as possible. That's why Sims is getting buffed, as its stats are even worse than those of the Blyskawica. The discrepancy Blyskawica shows to table leaders is significant. Yes, but we play the ship in the current meta. And I don't honestly believe that the people calling for a buff haven't been experiencing the short end of the stick Blyska has received in the current meta. I played my game nr. 11.000 in the Blyska to celebrate my 2 years playing WoWS. It was a short game. Being bottom tier DD in a T9 match does that to you. An enemy DD spotted me, the carrier parked a fighter squad above, and a Saint Louis deleted me as i tried to escape (smoke wasn't an option due to being radared). I paid for this ship with money, I have good stats from 92 games i played in it. Currently this ship is a horrible experience and not worth being played. If I could get doubloons for it, I would have gotten rid of it. I'll see what I can whip up, the amount of material to be worked with is quite large though.

A lot of people have asked for a buff during the stream. The ship is loved by many, especially since it is one of the few remaining WW2 non-USN destroyers in existence, together with Anshan, Cavalier, Chi Lin, and Haida.

A typical operations team, mostly glue eaters and window lickers. You can't carry such people anywhere.

Dunkerque is going to get a 26s reload. So what's the point of the PEF again? Fast reload? Lulz... Source: Q&A stream.

Sure thing. Asking CV questions today will get you a reminder that the CV stream is next week. There's too much on the plate to talk CVs today.

Thanks for the mockery, since you lack reading comprehension, let me link to you the news article you probably also missed: https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/community/buffy-the-op-slayer/ Again, today is the following stream: Next week comes the second stream:

There's a stream with the devs next week all devoted to answering CV rework questions, including I think questions about premium CVs. Today there's a stream about all the other ships that are going to get abused by CVs after the rework.

I think you misread what I wrote, I was talking about the Dunkerque and not the PEF in that post.

How about you address properly all the other stats I mentioned, instead of ignoring them. Dunkerque shines nowhere and performs rather poorly compared to other T6 premium BBs. Because just saying LTP is a cop out.

Let's look at the 2 month aggregated stats of premium t6 BBs shall we: Name Games Played WR % Avg. XP Avg. Damage K/D Ratio Survival Aggro Dunkerque 15733 48,21 982 38504 0,92 30,47 899340 West. Virginia 1022 46,73 1038 39635 1,04 39,54 789665 Arizona 4985 53,39 1203 48749 1,64 45,88 913917 Mutsu 2987 46,60 1039 38187 0,99 36,28 803965 Prinz Eitel 40920 50,38 1322 40552 1,20 35,85 962564 Warspite 27454 50,12 1049 42621 1,23 38,31 866261 http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20190112/eu_2month/average_ship.html Speaking of Dunkerque: It was the third most popular premium T6 BB in the last two months. It's in the middle of the WR, which is not bad, compared with newcomers like WV and veterans like the Warspite. It has the lowest avg. XP value, meaning her owners limit themselves to farming BBs. This isn't a surprise as Dunkerque is bad against every other ship, since she overpenetrates cruisers at typical engagement ranges and can't hit DDs with the inaccurate guns. She also has the second lowest damage out of all the BBs, only Mutsu is worse and that ship has WW1 shells. It also has the worst Kill/Death ratio, meaning that more Dunks get killed than they kill in return. Only Mutsu is similar. Because of the weak armor and IFHE proliferation Dunkerque has the lowest survival rates from among the T6 premium BBs, and not by a small margin. The ship is being farmed hard, even Mutsu is better. Tanked damage confirms that the ship is being focused, as Dunkerques are in the 3rd spot for aggro, while not being tanky at all. Looking at the 2 month EU stats I'd say that Dunkerque, for all it's popularity, is a weak premium compared to other ships at tier. It offers neither damage nor defense to the team, and people playing it must accept the risk of being easily focused and deleted while not being able to reciprocate. Even Mutsu is better, which is surprising since no one in his right mind would say it's a great ship. PS: The amount of games in the Prinz Eitel shows that the stats for this ship are to be taken with a grain of salt, so many people are playing it that the averages are going to be inflated.