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This awesome website offers all the stats from all the normal servers (china has it's own server that is run by a third party): http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/index.html

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/490095210?t=40m10s Smolensk is fine. The stats are fine. Spreadsheet says so. Stop complaining. You are having fun.

Thank you, you most likely have killed this season for my clan. I'm really happy that you are doing your utmost to remove access to clan battles for more and more clans, through timing and configuration.

@fumtuI'm sorry you took it this way, but let's be honest, how representative are your stats compared to other players? Especially since you belong to the category of players who could take a wooden log, a paddle, and a handgun, and still outplay the enemy team at t10. I don't think that it is productive to discus a ship based on individual performance or subjective feelings about it. That's why I don't go into detail about my own performance and rather focus on more global stats and numbers which can be checked and confirmed by others. Again, sorry to ruffle your feathers, but I don't think this is the way to discus the ship. As to the fact that the ship isn't noob friendly? It isn't fun to play even for veterans, and I say it as someone who likes ships like Roma. And as stated in a post above, entry ships that introduce players to a line's traits shouldn't work against them by being hard to play. This is a game, not a performance competition. Besides, Nürnberg has decent stats compared to Pepsi.

Inspired by my previous work on the Blyskawica (Link), I have decided to take a more objective look at the German BBs and how they perform. As like many, I am biased and have certain preferences when it comes to my boats, so I decided not to look at my own performance and opinion of them, but instead take a look at the 2 month average on the EU server. The source of the information - http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20191005/eu_2month/average_ship.html This will be a tier by tier analysis of the stats, with a general comparison and a word of the position the German battleships are in, starting from T5 as that's where the big boys start playing. Big thanks to @WG_Lumberjack for inspiring me to do this. Blame him, not me. Stats in bold are the best in the category, in italics the worst. Tier 5 Stats: Analysis: König is in a very good spot here. Good WR and damage, pretty average kills of both planes and ships, not a bad survival and K/D, mastery in tanking damage and the accuracy is ok too. I do not see any reason to touch this ship, even if the turret rotation is bad for a ship that should brawl. There is nothing to say more. Other ships here show an interesting picture. Bretagne is really bad. Texas rules the tier. Pyotr is performing a bit too well, but it has the lowest survival, so it dies most of the time. Other than that it is a very close race. Tier 6 Stats: Analysis: The good times are over, say goodbye. Bayern is one of the worst ships at tier. The WR is still ok, but the damage is trailing behind the rest. Between the top scorer Arizona and Bayern there's a 16k difference per game. And Arizona is not forced to push in to perform. Without Queen Elizabeth Bayern would be the ship with the least kills per game, at least it's second worst. It can shoot planes down though, but not too many. The survival isn't the worst, in fact it's pretty ok. K/D is again second worst after QE. Bayern has also quite surprisingly a very average tanking and accuracy average. It's middle of the field, but it still can't perform. PEF is a different pair of shoes, not really popular though. It has a decent winrate and damage, third and sixth to be precise. It's currently the best BB AA platform at T6. PEF however doesn't survive too often, after the Dunkerque it is the second most ganked T6 BB, it tries to tank the most damage but still goes poof. It's also the most accurate BB at tier with a good K/D. I'd say Bayern needs a buff, because ManSec gives it nothing of value and the guns just don't compensate. So it has nothing to shine with. Surviving the battle means nothing if you can't give back what you received. PEF doesn't need buffs, maybe a small QoL improvement of the turret traverse to make it perform better as a flanker, but that's it. Other highlights. As said above, Quen Elizabeth is horrible. It's even worse than Bayern. Arizona on the other hand, shines like a beacon of Sealclubbing. It dump trucks other ships at tier. I'm also very surprised that Izmail is rather average. A balanced Russian BB, now that's something you don't see every day. Also, Dunkek players should stop camping and move, they are getting killed in droves. Tier 7 Stats: Analysis: The monody to the German BBs continues. Gneisenau with it's least amount of guns stands at the end of the line. Damage, survival, K/D, all are bottom of the barrel bad. Surprisingly the hit ratio isn't bad, 4th best in fact, but having only 6 guns means you won't get the numbers to compensate. WR is good and AA is incredible, not even DoY comes close. Scharnhorst keeps the flame alive, the ship has decent stats in every category. Not a surprise there, as the fast firing 280mm guns can compensate for everything else. I don't need to say more, as it is in a very good place stat wise. Sinop murders people, if not for the Nelson and the 406mm fire starters, it would dominate most categories. No wonder Flamu calls the ship Satan. WG should really nerf it, like the Vladivostok. On the other end of the line stands Ashitaka, unloved, unwanted, and under performing. A ship designed to be bad. Who would've thought that making everything bad, save the guns, would make it so. Honorable mention, Hood, the ship everyone is shooting at. Tier 8 Stats: Analysis: To my incredible and shocking surprise, both Bismarck and Tirpitz are pretty average ships. They aren't great but they are also not bad (save the AA on Tirpitz, which is bad). They are not the best performing ships, but they aren't horrible. Even the accuracy of the main battery and damage are ok. Color me surprised. There is really no need for changes here. The rest of the ships at tier are a riot. NC players should be given an in-game message to get closer to the fight, because their ships are under perfoming. Kii isn't hitting other ships and can't win. Both Russians are very good, in fact they would be the best if not for a peculiar ship. The Massachoochoo just steamrolls over the corpses. WG you shouldn't have, really. This ship is even more OP when it comes to stats than Vladdy. Tier 9 Stats: Analysis: After so many buffs, FDG is still a steaming pile of garbage. I understand that some ships will always be last, but they should at least perform close to their peers. Instead FDG performs like an anemic T8 after a coffee. It doesn't do damage, it doesn't kill ships, it doesn't survive battles. And you can't blame it all on players. Other silver T9s are performing better than the T8s, FDG isn't. It's like watching a post on r/awfuleverything. WG was right to remove the Musashi. That ship was OP, still is. The most popular BB is not a German one, it's the Jean Bart. Soyuz like Izmail looks pretty balanced. And Missouri is a symbol of victory, getting one on the team means your chances to win have gone up. Tier 10 Stats: Analysis: Just because GK has better numbers than FDG doesn't mean it's a good ship. One look at the stats dispels any illusions I had. Least damage, least kills, worst survival rate and K/D. It's the same story, just one tier higher with some fresh paint to cover the rust. The WR is ok, but otherwise? Take the Kremlin, you'll have much better results. Or take anything else, save Montana. Lots of players play it, but even Yamato snipers perform better. I'm really surprised how bad Montana is being played. I don't know why. Bourgogne is OP, but it's not a surprise. Otherwise the ships are pretty balanced against each other, at least the silvers. Premiums? Yeah, not so much. WG is power-creeping T10 to make sure in the future no one will take a silver BB to CBs or Ranked. Well that's it for me. I'm surprised how good some ships perform. I don't like the PEF, but it performs well. Both T8s are doing good too. König is also solid. But the remainder? You always have better options. Especially T9 and T10 look grim, as both ships are the worst at tier when it comes to performance. FDG just stuns at how bad it is. Sub_Octavian has said they won't do blanket buffs and I agree. But for our sake they should start looking at individual ships, because this is looking like a train wreck. Anyway, drop a comment below to tell me what you think. I might do a similar post next week for a different line.

Nope, the concealment was also nerfed. Before the split Pensacola had a 12,4km concealment and a 30s traverse. These values when applied now would make it a really good ship. Thanks, I don't expect any answers soon but the numbers posted do create a grim picture. Speaking about grim, when you have people who switch from a hard to play ship like the Omaha to a ship that is even more punishing like Pensacola, you will have people give up because they want to have fun and not be deleted early. A line should not have struggle ships twice in a row. RN CLs are an example how to be great at that. You have the Emerald which is bad, then you get Leander which is awesome, and Fiji is even better, so when you hit high tiers with Edinburgh you feel good. USN CAs are different you get Omaha made out of tissue paper, Pensacola is also not fun, then you get New Orleans which is average, so there's not much to look forward to. You really need to manage expectations, especially for ships that introduce the players to a line's traits. Because you might just turn people off. In my opinion a line needs highlights to keep people interested and right now the USN CAs don't have any. Personally, I was lucky that I played USN cruisers before the split. Cleveland at T6 was awesome, Pepsi at T7 after all the buffs was a fun high risk/high reward ship, New Orleans at t8 was also solid (never had a problem with her). If I had to play through them now I'd quit at T6 and play IJN cruisers, which are much more fun at T6 and above.

Good for you. But since you played only to grind through, what was the reason you haven't kept playing the ship afterwards? We are talking about a T6 silver cruiser. The moment such a ship requires a special captain it means that something is not right. T6 for most lines is the tier where the expectations and play style are established. Most people can grind to T6 in a day or two of serious gaming. Don't you think that having a ship requiring so much to perform at such a low tier is a bit counter productive?

Says the unicum player. Sorry but both the EU 2 month stats and the ships actual values say a different story. But thanks for stopping by and posting your stats. For everyone else, outliers like @fumtuare always cut out when calculating statistics. I can't do it with the global stats, even though I'd love to. I wouldn't buff the reload, instead the traverse and concealment could be brought to a more sane level. How many battles have you played in randoms in the t6 pepsi?

To anyone wondering, here is a handy table to illustrate the problem with SAP vs. HE, starting with the first heavy cruiser in the tech tree at T6: Trento has a high DPM, but is still inferior to cruisers that can also set ships on fire. That's right, they outgun her and can still damage saturated targets by lighting them up. LaGal also has the MBRB, so it compensates for the low DPM. Compared to this, Leander is the king of DPM to compensate for the 0 fire chance. And no one can claim Leander is OP because of that, even with the box'o'gimmicks she has. And let's also remember that you can't angle against HE and it will set you on fire.

From Hall of Fame: What a useless joke. Killed my desire to play today. You spend time trying get a reward and in the end the rewards is $hit.

Nah, even the heavy cruisers have DPM issues. When the Italians drop they will get quickly declared POS after people learn that you can disable them by angling. Pasta Cruiser pops out, you angle, *sad pasta noises* as he gets sunk with 0 counterplay.

The French T6s (and the T5) have one thing Perth doesn't have, speed. With speed boost the French can do hit run very well. They also have superior range. Perth on the other hand can become a very angry moving cloud. But when the smoke runs out you can't be in the open and spotted. So the best way is to support the DDs in cap and hang back. Let someone else tank the damage.

Here's something I reminded myself of about playing the Perth. You always have to play the long game with this ship, be very conservative and never charge in unless you are 100% sure you will go away mostly unscathed. You can't trade HP like the Leander.

I was too. Was:

This is becoming more and more my attitude towards the Italian cruisers.

For the 4th skill you should go for concealment, you are too squishy to ignore the danger of being deleted when spotted. The 14p skill should be IFHE. The spotter and smoke upgrades are a must, not an option. And never ever use the fighter plane. Also, take the steering upgrade, acceleration doesn't work well with smoke. The play style is simple, you follow DDs to the cap, when enemy DDs get spotted you pop smoke and creep around shooting them. Then you switch to BBs and if the opportunity arises cruisers. Always remember that the 2x4 torp launchers are not for show, the single shot option allows you to delete campers.

So a ship that is already appearing unappealing and weak on paper is getting a nerf? Great idea. What's next, a reload nerf?

From the sub stream a few days ago: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/490095210?t=45m10s PS: They confirmed the Smolensk can be nerfed like any coal only ship, but spreadsheet says it's fine. Yeah, I feel a 2 month stat analysis coming.

He meant the 2 month average I posted in the linked topic and he quoted it right. He ignored the fact that the GK has the worst avg. damage, kills, kill to death ratio, and survival rate. But that's another thing. I wouldn't use that site beyond the personal stats. The global averages are trash and pretty much useless.

So global stats collected since the ship was released, which also ignore all of the meta changes, are better than the average for the last two months. Interesting.

So you took the worst performing T10 BB for a spin? Well, good news is that WG is looking at buffing it by Christmas. Just wait and play ships that are fun in the meantime, it's not like GK is the only ship out there. Hell play Smolensk, this way WG will be forced to nerf it faster.

Yeah, Tirpitz is fine against lower tier ships.

You can however take a snapshot of the current stats and extrapolate certain facts. Because just looking at the potential numbers will also lead you nowhere. A perfect analysis would contain player reported outcomes or PROs (both the forum and reddit work well, as a continued creation of certain topics works as a canary signalling an issue), next the stats with outliers removed and sorted by WR groups, lastly an analysis of the ship potential thrown against the same tier and type ships. Then comes the analysis and a potential upgrade. This, hopefully is happening at Lesta with the ships that the community reports to them as being bad. You can't rely on stats alone. But you also can't fully rely on PROs. It's the mix that does it.

Enjoy a free Gallant next time you can get a free T6 premium!

A really nice change, even if the economy of the COOP mode doesn't change it will enhance the mode a bit more. That's a really great change, a lot of people have those semi-premiums and don't play them. Or even had sold them... Will the new tech be compatible with existing one? Because that could kill off all of the mods that change the aiming sights.