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Yes vs t6-9 Graf is defently not useless... But if the mm presents you mainly T10 opponents you can't do much.... I wished that the bombers were more reliable but I think WG does not want to change them. The issue with them is extremely old. It also could help alot if they made the rocket planes a bit faster, like they were before the speed nerf.if I attack a full aa skilled bb (t8+) the planes are so slow that you can't even dodge the walls of heavy aa. Most likely most of that planes will die than... That's btw something people tend to ignore about the new aa (8.7) it creates situations in which aa can't be dodged especially if you play vs higher tier aa. So spoken situational the new aa is actually even better than the old one. But I agree on that the continuous dmg is a bit to low. But on the other hand it would be bad to increase continuous aa drastically while keeping the current heavy aa. I had no problem with 8.5 or 8.6 I started playing reworked CV's in that patch.

I don't think support cvs are going to happen. To much salt in that community. But perhaps they bring them as an alternative striking cv line.

Well you know.... Not everyone here is a native speaker :) don't expect the English of a not only British community to be perfect.

For real? Well.... It's now a bit unfair I guess... And what about T4 cvs? They need nerfs and Graf and saipan need some love.....

I noticed that. I am already using it :P the question was more for the attack the same target twice. As that increased your influence. The spreading love thing works quite well:)

I got that :) however I consider the stealth upgrade to be more useful thus didn't put it into consideration. Sorry. He has tons of more battles Than that is like number 30 in wows stats and numbers and you question that he does not know that ship? You can do that for me I have just 40 battles. I just wrote down my opionion on this ship. Guess what I actually am better in Zeppelin than Lexington. (I don't know how tho) @Sunleaderaa is a bit to weak in my opionion but this ship is also to weak especially if aa gets buffed. However I noticed that I often can't get a second strike with DBs due to the massive turning circle. What am I doing wrong?

Let's say it how it is. All rn cvs are trash.... Except audacious. Graf and saipan are bad compared to silver and kaga enterprise. (Graf is cool to play tho) with update 8.7 you can have fun in cvs. But only as long you know how to dodge aa burst. Sometimes dodging aa burst is not possible due to the 3.5 km rule. If you are in an attack run the ship next to you target will throw the aa burst right in your face you can't even dodge when you drop immediately. So that means half of the squadron gone. But whatever this is only fair for the overall ok aa and I can live with it. As for Lexington I personally don't like it. But I love shokaku but I also loved it in 8.6 so that was clear. But then again my stats didn't improve after 8.7 hit so I guess aa is fair now.

What only 1.2k base XP? You doing sth wrong mate:P

But the one and only important question..... Can it 100% kill Bismarcks rudder?

Yep. But if you throw them away in the beginning they never be at full strength..

It loses planes.... That are the turrets of the cv.

Yeah. Amen

Let's play together in the evening that makes sure you at least got one trash player on your team:)

Yeah but in eraly game you can't do jackshit in some situations. Also not every game has a late game. Point is as long as one team in general is dominant over the other the cv even if he is great he can't do much Cuz when ships finally spread out the game is over. In the old cvs you could also do that cleanup thing..... Even more effective Cuz you could attack 3 or 4 ships at the same time. And come one every class has advantages. CV has more thus its capped to 1 per team (or should be). That's actually quite fair..... And also remember... You get the same amount of points for 10 planes that you get for (finishing) one ship. Also a CV can't make up for 4 dd's players that have no brain.... Only if the enemys are incompletent. Also it is easy to dodge or minimize the dmg the initial attack of a CV does due to plane spotting range. You just need to turn in and screw his rocket or torp angle for bombs turn broadside and you are most times fine. About the topic.... Has ark royal any use or is it trash like saipan is.?

Tbh. Game influence is lower than it was in RTS. In RTS you could after killing enemies planes do whatever you want with more strike power in one strike. Dmg might be the same or even more now but it's spread on many targets thus making dmg not as worthy as it would been on one target. It's simply stupid to cv snipe a Zeppelin tried to kill me in enterprise he lost 56 planes for like 20 k dmg and I won ofc Cuz he wasted his influence......

of course but sth like this cant be just some people messing up cuz they all did? anyway i am looking forward to play together ;)

maybe but normally the matchmake should create fair matches dont??:P actually the benson capped and died only seconds away from winning:P

Sorry for posting twice..... Seroiusly what am i doing wrong????? how do i deserve a team that plays for the enemy team ???

@Sunleader is right damage means nothing ..... here is the reason :P Note I couldnt focus one cuz i needed to defend my base.....otherwise i would have killed two more perhaps.....

i already did :P

well but the stats are that way cuz in 8.0 folks got 560k games. 100k is okay i would say but it also can be good.....if its 100k on dd and cruisers for example. Also how do i deserve this?

I think you have to consider all different cvs seperatly. hosho langley enterprise and kaga defently are maybe a bit to strong. But then you have basically all rn cvs exept the t10 who are worthless, you have saipan and graf which both are not as good as the silver t8 cvs /lexi and shoka) and everything else is quite okay in my opionion. So that being said they normally need to get the better and the worse ones in line so they all perform roughly the same in skilled hands.....the issue you see is that if there is a good cv player like Love and peace he can do very harmful things to large parts of the fleet .But this is exactly how it should be . If he was skilled in a bb or dd he could do the same . Maybe not exactly but dmg wise . As a cv you can finish low hp targets that gives you an advantage over the rest of the team. But can a cv cap without that much risk like a dd? can a cv blap a cruiser for full hp (dont consider enty as norm)? Can a cv He spam targets like cruisers yes but thats the only point this argumentation cant explain. But can a cv look throught smoke like cruisers? No:DD I would say each class has its advantages the cv maybe a bit more , but therfor they are limited on one or two per side, which is to much for me i would love a hard cap of one cv per side:P Ahh shiit sorry for spelling :P

If they just are at reversing stuff why not reverse the flooding nerf too? :D

kk :D my stats are so horrible they never will be good xD I never cared about them and never will :P

misundertsood me :D idgaf about stats i want simply become better while playing. Winrate pr or anything doesnt matter just wanna have a good time :P