Migantium_Mashum

Seriously, you don't know why? That's so funny I almost fell of my gaming chair.. 1. The rework drove away many skilled and talented players leaving a vacuum that was filled with no brain potatoes playing ships that they are incapable of handling because they had no experience but they still were able to buy them. In my last game, which was some weeks ago now, I distinctly remember a Tirpitz player in game asking how he zooms in on a target because he had forgotten.. 2. The rework attracted the 10 year old ex MineCraft players who have become the "Zoom zoom boom boom brigade" These new players didn't give a damn about learning the game they wanted their results fast without the grind and thanks to WG they got just that. 3. The rework favoured the CV over every other class so the good players slip to bad players because they didn't have a hope in hell of making any worthy contribution to the game. 4. The rework changed the game for everyone. 5. The experienced players with good skills left... No surprise there is there? 6. The vacuum is filled by......??

Now we just await the advocates...perhaps they still slumber...

@antean +1. I have felt this way since 8.0. I am no CV player but as a DD main I found a battle with a good RTS CV Captain was nail biting to the end... Now, with the Zoom zoom boom boom boys, with the new rework..well it's I have played 4 random games as a DD since 8.0 and each time with CV's in the game...Absolutely bored out of my skin, teams sit hiding, do nothing, refuse to engage, refuse to support..enemy aircraft fly like supersonic jets with no counter because your allied CV no longer has fighters to intercept.....recorded my games on Bandicam and put it on my Clans page.. rather watch socks dry.

@Beastofwar it is the only way to play DD now..

Yeah my mistake.. just didn't pay enough attention..oh the Irony..I am in trouble now... @hellhound666 apologies... be kind.

Irrespective of his battle count I presume that he is complaining about the 8.0 rework.. I have to ask how much attention do you pay to topics on this forum? Little by the choice of your answer.

They are the children of the 8.0... 10 years old and out for Zoom Zoom Boom Boom... Tactical, Strategic those words are Alien to then and to them Team = I

I tried 3 times yesterday. 1st Game 3 allied Cruisers decided to push the enemy allowing a Cruiser to push into the zone.. they died game lost. 2nd Game 4 Clan members, with 1 CV, so you think they might be decent working together.. 2 go off and are dead quickly and 3 enemy ships hit the zone in the first wave we are overwhelmed and lose. 3rd Game Again the team allow the enemy to penetrate the zone with their first push... Gave up playing.

That's like saying the game is full of 10 year olds... But, wait. it is?? Oh my...

Rather than moaning about radar take the time to learn the radar and hydro capabilities of your enemy. Know your enemy, plan accordingly, don't be the victim...or whine, do nothing, die. Your choice.

Maybe the problem is the impact of all those who have stopped spending their money on anything to do with WG... can't pay the bills can't run things... edit: 46 seconds to load my post on the EU forum too...

WG don't give two when they are selling OP ships... they only care to take your money. Once they have your money because this is their platform they will do as they please regardless because they will not refund you cash paid merely throw Doubloons at you. It's a WG win win scenario.. Don't buy premiums for cash nor buy Doubloons to buy ships either... get your ships via Coal or Steel and that way when WG nerf a premium ship it doesn't cost you hard earned coin. Lately everything WG is doing is putting people off spending money.. it's like they want the game to die.

So WG sold a ship they knew to be OP. WG knew full well what they were selling and quite happily took your money with a smile with no scruples or concerns. But, WG knew didn't they..after all it is their creation. The idea of the ship being premium means it is NOT a normal ship because they call normal ships the silver line.

Can I have an ounce of what you're smoking please? In no other online game I have played do you buy something that is then changed down the line months or years later to something totally different. You buy something in an online game for real money it stays the same for however long it is applied to your account or until the company you purchased from disappears.. Read my post again..slowly and after the affects of whatever you have smoked have worn off.

So you are quite happy to give you cash for something that can be altered at a whim without even asking you if it is okay? Would you buy a premium car and allow the dealership to remove all the extras later without your permission without giving you a refund? Would you buy a premium phone and allow the manufacturer to remove all of its applications 6 months after purchase whilst still expecting full payment for it? So the Belfast becomes a different ship entirely? So what was the ship we paid for again? So to anyone buying a premium ship for real money remember that somewhere down the line WG can change it into something totally different without your consent. So why bother spending real money. I want my money back for my Belfast then pure and simple...

If I have understood the OP correctly. It can only be likened to buying a top of the range brand new car at a top of the range price driving it for 6 months before the manufacturer comes and says sorry mate but we're removing all of your extras from the car to turn it to standard because all the guys who drive standard cars don't like you driving your car because they feel inferior to you... But, oh sorry did we forget to tell you, we still expect to keep the premium price you paid... WG must think players are mugs. Given late behaviour patterns I believe they do. The premium ships were sold as seen...that's why people purchased them... people purchased premium the ships as was.... and whilst WG were getting your coins they were happy to sell them with no mention of tweaks or buffs......when you purchased your Kamikaze or Belfast did WG ever tell you they may nerf the crap out of your purchase at a later date? Of course they did not because you wouldn't have spent the money on the ship....... So the reality is that whatever you buy today may not be what you have in 6 months. That is considered fraud in some countries. In my opinion, why would I buy another premium ship with coin or spend money on Doubloons to get one..... WG who exactly is in charge of your marketing strategy a Clown from the local Circus?

There is a fine balance for BB game play.. Be reckless, die early, become frustrated.. be over cautious, stay back, you will lose your allies because they will die first. Against DD's imagine how you would play one yourself in the hunt of a BB. You would look for the BB that is easy to hit because it is close to an Island, alone in open water or putting itself at the head of the wall.. DD's can attack with virtual impunity because you just cannot see them. A DD's torpedoes can extend to 20km range and BB's cannot easily avoid them if fired close in. With a BB's slow and limited movement an Island might actually hinder you because you lose the freedom to move and so a brave Destroyer can pin you with torpedoes...you're more concerned with missing them to be effective in the counter play and so the DD can easily escape. Learn your Cruisers so you know which can burn you hardest and when they are spotted stay out of their range. Fire on them at every opportunity unless a more important target shows itself. DOn't immediately put out the fires until out of range because you can still reclaim most fire damage from repair, unless this is changed. Don't assume an Island is protection from HE. Remember some Cruisers carry torpedoes which are just a lethal as torpedoes from a DD. Know your enemies capability and your battle is half won. Let the allied DD's and Cruiser proceed ahead of you but you must stay close enough to be able to deter an enemy attack and support your consorts. Don't long shot as you give your position away without a chance of high damage. Watch the mini map, if you cannot read it make it larger. Where enemy DD's are spotted change course, change speed and don't be the head of your group..those behind you can escape faster and easier. Become the illusive target never just go in straight lines.. Above all don't be frustrated if things don't work to plan at first. It takes time to develop a strategy of play in a BB... Out guessing your opponent is even harder at the beginning but patterns do emerge. Stay in the Tier you are most comfortable in...

@WynnZeroOne this is exactly what I posted and you were the one telling me the 19,000 screenshot was wrong... okay 19,527. According to you when I took this screenshot there were 27,001 players on the server yet you refused to validate your claim with proof... you saw it with your own eyes you said... I am open for anyone to tell me how a screenshot can be so far out? According to WynZeroOne it is by nearly 8,000...

Screenshots don't lie which is the sole reason I made mine. Won't hold my breath waiting for yours that's for sure... must be over 2 weeks now waiting.

Please read your first post....then read the second...which side of the fence do you want? Was or Is?? I asked you to prove the numbers of the many who you said "agreed the rework was needed"..hardly aggressive... for I can prove the majority who think it is bad. Until you can prove what you claim you are talking Codswallop.

You against the world eh? When your world crumbles to nothing...that is what you will have.

Again you CV advocates go on about the many who agreed the rework was needed...where are they? Who are they? I haven't seen a single Poll showing that 8.0 was wanted or is a success.. Prove me wrong with fact. Even before 8.0 some very respected individuals told WG the rework was "Bad" and was not ready... When I go through the forums (with my Google Translate) there seem more people dissatisfied than happy and for some reason those who voice their disapproval quickly find their posts "Archived" Even on FaceBook the majority of people are telling you the rework is rubbish. Put up some facts about your majority or else you are talking Codswallop.

So all the people who have lost out to the sacrifice will get their money back?

Oh you're back... Remember when I posted the screenshot of 19,000 in the server and you said there were 27,001 yet you couldn't provide a screenshot... I did at that time do 5 and a half hours of screenshots and the maximum number for the server was 24,664 at 2002 hrs...not the 27,001 you claimed it to be.. Post your screenshots then and I might take your comments seriously.

Do you not understand business economics at all? You finished school yet? If I was a business and had to make the choice of either screwing 4% (as you say) of my customers or screwing 96% of my customers it would be financial suicide for me to screw the 96%... Would be interested to see your business model though if you think that screwing 96% is a good idea... WG is a F2P game but it needs revenue to pay its expenses and staff... it cannot run for Daddy's wallet now can it. Or is it because in the old RTS CV a player had to learn how to be good just like the captain of every other class... As I keep saying the new Zoom Zoom Boom Boom CV players want the rewards without the effort of learning.. so we now suffer the MineCraft Brigades... Low intellect, low skill... So WG to fix the skill gap dumb down the game. Bye, bye competitive play hello boring... rather watch paint dry. No wonder the players who like a challenge and desire to learn new things are leaving the sinking ship... When prime time EU server numbers show 19,000 in the server the game is in trouble... last time I did screenshots my post was Archived...