Taliesn

Ok, a lot of this hinges on the idea that many games are loopsided. I do not believe it to be the case. But lets put that aside for a moment. How do you think a 47-49% player should exactly feel? He's winning just about half the games and more often than not he is not the decisive factor one way or the other. For all we know he just likes to see his ship make boom boom and doesn't care about stats, tactics or improving. And if he does, then he should improve over time and hopefully, enjoy it.

How appropiate.

Tier VIII is notoriously bad in terms of MM, although I suspect it is not as bad as it was, and even back then it wasn't as bad as people thought. Tier IX is (in my experience as well) very good now, hence Brindisi and Georgia. Big numbers here, I do not pretend to know otherwise., but the great majority of the playerbase is in the 47-49% bracket (or thereabouts) so even if WG would want to rig the MM, they could not do it, because out of 22 people, 20 will be more or less average players. I know it's boring but I'd suggest you write down every random game you play over the next month and how many ships were alive on both teams at the end. I'd be surprised if the rolfstomps (for either team) exceed 20-25% of the total.

@MahBallz dissaproves, lol. Care to elaborate?

It's probably a year since the last time I played all of them except Kutuzov, Missouri (strictly for the credits) Smolensk and Eugen, and these on average I barely play a couple of games per week at most. Black, maybe six months? Musashi, once in a blue moon. Leningrad, Warspite and Indy, at least 2 years if not more. Over the last month I'd say Hindy, Brindisi and Georgia are clear top 3, in that order. Hardly OP by any stretch of the imagination. Kirov was probably my second cruiser, back in 2017, I haven't played her since. In fact, I don't play tier 5 anymore. At all. So well done there. There is only one thing common to all of your matches, and it's not the MM or the ships involved. It's you. I'm upset, well, not really upset, lets just say annoyed, by posters claiming this is World of Roflstomps without actually being able to provide a reasonable sequence of matches to (marginally) prove it. So far you have admitted that you don't play randoms much and that last night you experienced teams heavily beaten the opposition. Even if I were to take your word for it (no screenshots, remember?) that would still only be a very minor instance of rolfstomps being the norm, for you and, supposedly, for every player in wows? I can point out that I haven't experienced such occurrence EVER and I have almost twice as many battles as you, but then I do not need to prove anything and it would not. See, the way MM is constructed and looking at the playerbase as a whole, common sense and the laws of probability are on my side, unless you believe you are unique or the system is rigged against you, but that is Tin Foil Hat Territory, and I'm not going there.

You do know what every other means, right? I dare you, tedious as it may sound, to post them. Have a little self-awareness please: You can't carry. Ironically enough, you are one of them. It is ALWAYS about skill. With randomness (RNG/MM) a very distant second. And the ships involved an even more remote third.

1,000 doubloons.

Best bit for me, as in I can't believe he's saying this with a straight face, was when he was questioned about DDs having to cope with increasing number of radars, hydros, CVs, SAP... and he answered with this: "what is happening with complexity is, in our opinion, is a slow growth of complexity for the whole game, not just for one class." Ok, I can sort of agree that some cruisers are having a tough time because of more high calibre guns being added to the game (Thunderer, Ohio, Georgia...) but I cannot for the life of me imagine what kind of complexity has been added to BBs or CVs. Friggin' Asashio?

Prove it.

Yeah, nah, I'm gonna call BS on that: Definately a ltp issue.

Because it is the first port of call for most people criticising the italian cruisers and their, supposedly, poor SAP and their lack of HE ammo. Bottom line, I don't want for every new cruiser line to be more or less like every other before it and italian cruisers work just fine as they are. They might not be for everybody, but they do work. I have managed to do fine damage wise with all italian cruisers except Amalfi and there is no lack of BBs in those mid tiers either.

10k SAP Brindisi salvoes against Iowas for example I find quite common. Ditto for many other BBs, except russian ones. HE damage on other cruisers looks fine as a stat but is usually not getting you any closer to victory.

How many players div up with a DD to have that smoke, though? I'll wait and see how bad the long range accuracy is and how well protected they are when they hit the game to make up my mind on what still is a bunch of pre-ST stats.

It all looks fantastic at first glance but they will live, or die, by their armor scheme. Flat arcs mean no island hugging for you, which is itself even better than the smoke firing of other cruisers in terms of protection and survivability. In other words, you are likely to be THE firing piñata early on because half your team will be undetected (DDs) in smoke or behind islands (CL/CAs) or right at the back end of the map (BBs)

Sap sucks in certain situations, it is glorious in others. Just like every other cruiser ammo really, except, maybe, US AP. Fires from HE are ok if you are farming damage against BBs but that doesn't necessarily mean you are doing what you should in order to win. Torps are not useless, citadel hits, I'm afraid, are the order of the day for most cruisers in game, including those pesky russian cruisers. You are hardly the best Bayern player anyway, maybe you are not encountering enough italian cruisers? Funny you should say that. I've had exactly the opposite experience with the italian cruisers from tier 5 to 8. Enjoyed Monte and Trento, hated Amalfi with a vengeance. Brindisi is more than fine.

Ah, yes, smoke, hydro and radar for all british silver ships. What could possibly go wrong? Hint: If that would be suggested for all russian cruisers nobody would be taking the angle of it being un-historical crap but would rage about the OP-ness of it in 0.0000001 secs.

I, for one, welcome our new russian cruiser overlords.

Sub standard play you say? This is news to me! Not. 2 explanations: With any luck you have improved your game and you are able to recognise what others (probably less experienced) are doing wrong (things you did before) Most of the playerbase remains at roughly the same level. Influx of new players > those who improve/remain. Good news for you. On the other hand, it could very well be that you are still a bad player and you are deflecting your inability to improve upon your fellow teammates. If you start another thread about how you cannot carry your teams no matter what you do, I'll know it's the second option.

Wait, what? No! Republique and GK are nothing alike. GK is much better protected and suited for secondaries range brawls. Look at their bl00dy armor scheme. Republique is THE tier X ship that will get melted by HE spammers, she simply doesn't have staying power. GK doesn't need the range, not every tier X BB needs to be the same, FFS.

I have. Full secondary build, solo randoms, 60% WR (well, 59.75%) She is fine. The issue here is thinking every tier X BB must perform in the same way in order to win. I can win more with her doing less average damage than with Yamato, Montana, Conqueror... Also, GK is better protected against HE spam than some of her tier X sisters, therefore you must be doing something terribly wrong if you die before you even open fire.

Had two SCs in a row yesterday, 2nd and 3rd daily containers (TYL) 1000 doublons and 25 Dragon flags. Nice.

So, have we hit rock bottom yet? You'd hope so after 4+ years of a playerbase with, apparently, continuously declining skillz. But just in case, let me check... Nah, I'm back from 2055 where different forumites are making the same comments week in week out.

Thanks both. Seems I'll be getting Devonshire tomorrow with my 6th royal.

Probably being woooshed here but how do you get the 5th royal (100 tokens instead of 80?)

A couple of years ago I wouldn't even consider it. Now that it can no longer brawl most of the time and with her arcs, those 3kms can be put to good use. But yeah, swings and roundabouts really.