ForlornSailor

Nope. On top of that, I find myself in the position, where I struggle to get myself grinding any other silver BB line (besides Kremlin for obvious reasons). Once you have Thunderer and Bourgogne in port, you ask yourself: Why would I play [put silver TX BB name here] ?

DD-Friday! loving the Z-46. First I picked a fight with the Östergötland in the B-Cap - that did not went well for him. Although I give the guy credit for beeing pretty accurate with his blindfire in my smoke. Then I was on spotting duty, while I realized, the CV has parked conveniently behind that island like so many of his bretheres before... Did not went well for him. Sadly, at that point, we reach 1000 points, had the Nagato 9 km with almost full health ahead of me, could have turned into an even better game damage wise. Next game much closer, we won with a 6 point lead in the last minute and 3 minutes before the end we were trailing at almost 200 points. I could almost call this game unlucky for me. - When rushing a beached Alsace, the low health Asashio throws himself in my way, ruining my plan, because the CV was then on me aswell and Alsace managed to escape. - only 2 fires with 137 HE hits, was going for perma fires most of the time, only 1 did yield a perma fire (fire damage about 9k overall) - Second attempt of rushing a beached Gneisenau gets ruinied, because the dude puts up his spotter plane in the most perfect moment: when im 2,8 km away on the other side of the island. There I still was in the LoS of Brindisi, which I would not have been once commiting to the rush around the island. I decide to ram island and smoke - but Brindisi instanstly reacts with a shot - im dead. almost cost us the game. Just notice that he does visit the forums, so compliment again to @Vihtori for playing a really strong game. He took out all of our 3 DDs.

With a lot of anger plowing through the enemy lines to Rank 11 ^^ Some aditional impressions from that game:

I would play DD in ranked (and I tried actually) but I had enough of it pretty quick. Especially since im caught in the lower ranks. I concider DDs to be my best class, yet I play Henri and Bourgogne. If you ask why, I can tell you, it aint the Stalingrads and Petros that stop me, neither radar in general. Most annoying radar ship in those 4 games was actually a Minotaur - who got his somers to teamplay with him. And even that package would have been beatable but my oxygen-lacking "teammates" do not shoot at DDs or radar cruisers that I spot. I have HE-spamming Kurfürsts without camoflage, that try to farm the Thunderer / Conq on the other side of the map, while running secondary build. No joke. So that made me stop playing DDs. my ignorant teammates that dont know to shoot the right targets. Worst example: me perma spotting a Harugumo for about 2 mins with exactly ZERO shots fired at him. Then the 2nd enemy DD joined in from the other side, they both rushed me and killed me. A 47% and 49% DD player. All I needed was one intellgient cruiser player. You know, one of those Petros you think is ruining the game for DDs. Where are they? can you send them to my ranked games? then I can finally play DD.

Well, I will offer you a bet: I will take the side, that in 6 months time, starting today, the Petropavlosk will have a lower overall Winrate displayed on that exact same page that you used as a source in your post. That means 56,58% or lower. You shall take the position, that the WR will atleast stay the same or above, so 56,59% or above. Exactly 6 months from now on OR to the exact moment the Petro is nerfed and this nerf hits the server, to make it fair, obviously. You can define what the wager.

Fully agree with all of this. I dont pick Stalingrad myself often for randoms. Yes, you can punish oblivious players and broadsiding BBs very nice. On the other hand, if the opponent knows to go bow in, you are pretty much last in dpm, if you are forced to take the fight. And often you cant dissengage because of the concealment & massive cita, so turning is a no-no. As a DD, I dont fear Stalingrad itself either. The long reload makes her a bad DD hunter and the bad concealment helps you to keep track of the position. Worcester, Minotaur, DM - those are the radar cruisers you fear as a DD. I prefer to play Henri f.e. in randoms (and even in Ranked). Granted, it might also be personal preference, since I love this fast, roaming playstyle, where you look to make a play happen. Nothing is more exciting then to yolo rush some island camping ships with Henri and really stick it to them. And we have this every month. Ill go with the usual explanations: - new ships are beeing accessed to a higher degree by good players first. Thus their winrate and other stats looks as if they are OP at first. This will and does drop over time. Literally every new T10 cruiser starts with a high WR in the 55/54 range the first month. - Stalingrad was for the beginning only accessable to the people, who gathered all available steel. Which was tied to skill for a long time. Even ranked spamming wasnt enough for many seasons to get close to get Stalingrad. So Stalingrad playerbase is more skilled on average then the playerbase on any other ship (expeptions are the other steel ships to a more or less degree) so WR etc is higher by design. Recently, more average player get her, since they managed to gaterh the steel. Thus WR is dropping more and more, but it takes time. It used to be 57% if not even 58% some time ago. This weeks Stalingrad WR is 56,22%, last week 56,09%, the week before 55,05% - pointing that its still declining.

Oh, ill add some twist to that story: he definatly felt the love, when he was on MY team a few games before. Ill add the screens, since I was watching, wtf this dude is doing. I even told him (as did another guy right after) not to rush the cap. But when he is on my team, he instantly explodes. And look the chat, who he blames: ME ofc. I even smoked that useless dude, because I saw how he got trashed. I would have never smoked there since its contraproductive but im thinking "keep em alive, even if they are useless - they are still points".

Please elaborate who is blessed by RNG and how you determine that. Litterally from my last game:

That has indeed changed the game way too much.

You seem to have missed the times, when this was possible.

@Saltface @DFens_666 @ColonelPete you can stop talking to that dude. He is clueless. Also, to everyone reading the last 2 pages, its clear as day that you 3 are right on 100% and he is wrong on 100%. So you convinced everyone important.

You should know by now, that this game demands your entire attention. Its a mission. You havent quit your job already like the rest of us? Action stations my brother! Onwards to the endless ranked Season! [during 7 and 11 pm CET only]

Yes, sure, but that doesnt make the state of the game / gameplay over all any better. We would all be better of without the bottom 20% of the players. So its absolutly valid to complain about them. They just ruin your game from the get go, if they are on your team.

Ive been on Sedov :) And we passed Statsraad Lehmkuhl in the harbour.

Well, your result rather proves our point tho? You promised us better results. Yet you average in everything decreased. Sure, a 60% WR solo is decent, but f.e. your solo WR in Neptune is better. I ignore the rest because low battle count etc. And who of us said, that damage with spamming HE has a positive impact on WR? Quute the opposite, the guys you tag, constantly argue in the forum, that farming HE/Fire damage is stupid. If you draw the conclusion, that because they defend the Zao, means, they only spam HE with Zao - you are wrong. But it can explain, why you think Alaska is so much better then Zao and Zao is bad. Zao aint a HE-spammer. Btw, the w other guys you have marked, have a way higher Winrate in Zao then you did with Alaska (solo aswell). So "Zao is absolutely not able to dictate the direction of a game's outcome when in compared to Alaska." might be true for you, since, as pointed out and becoming more obvious, Zao doesnt suit you/you dont know how to use her tools, but it for sure isnt true as an absolute statement.

YES ! THIS! Im a couple of minutes in, when he ignores the broadside hindenburg and keeps shooting HE at the Conqeuror. Fire farming a Conqeror OF ALL THINGS. ShWjopwnhwnow ! This is one of the worst BB performances Ive seen someone presenting AND talking about the Ship beeing OP! WTF Shame on that dude, take away his CC status if he has one or w/e he has. Go back to T3 and learn how to play for god sake. His audiance will be like "waaaa, isi nice BB, must get muhself and buum buum HE" growing the next generation of HE spamming, useless Battleship. SOMEONE MAKE THIS DUDE DEINSTALL! cant watch it anymore & im out.

Wow. I went a couple of times into the 34/35k region today and yesterday in ranked.

A win with all signals + spring sky camos is about ~30k free XP.

I can show you, what would help. Making BB players understand "hey, if you guys all sit in the last corner of the map, the enemys will take control of all caps, the map, kill all cruisers, DDs and eventually win the game". THAT is the only thing that would help improve the situation of this game. No matter how you change the matchmaking THESE people will continue to play as bad as they did on that screen. And they dont even have any reason to wizz their pants there.

Yes, but as we all know, thanks to the hard evidence brought up during this scientific research paper over 153 pages - you have favourable matchmaking because you are getting payed by WG and in return defend the company on the forums.

Back to the slave- fun-camp that is called ranked: We kick the day off with the good old "Lemmingtrain vs. idiots - who will win this time?" episode 5712: Lemmingtrain took the win this time. Half my team decided to feed 1 by 1, ofc perfectly waiting for the guy ahead of them to die. This way, it was made sure, that they achieve absolutly nothing, so that the red team came steaming with full HP at the poor rest of us. Decided to switch to BBs myself. Again, the Red do the lemming train, this time, they are pushing me. But I kite and work down their health slow but steady. My calls to "get ready for crossshots on C cap" are ofc ignored, as you can see from the minimap. At the end of the game, the other side of my team completly vanished - how? I dont know. Only the nevsky knew about the concept of kiting. 1000 points call the whistle, while Im having the Conq full broadside 6 km ahead of me with shots in the air. But since he still had 63k health, I couldnt have turned it. Red Kurfürst was full health. And almost more XP then the highest enemy in the winning team. sigh. Then we get an interesting game of Epicenter with no DD but with CV. Nobody on my team understands, that you need to contest the center. Ofc the enemy Smolensk did. Without beeing harrased or even spotted from our CV. Meanwhile, I see no other option but to turn my Bourgogne into a DD and contest the center. I actually manage to take down the Smolensk and support the better looking flank from my team from there, so they can win and push it. In the end I rush to get some damage in. I wish I would have time to ram the Yamato but points ticked to 1000. Atleast the Thunderer still died :)

we could also ask @Darkeid this: does he think, the matchmaking monitor looks different for players like you and me? If we take ourselfs out of the picture, the odds are stacked against us as often as they are in our favour, looking at the stats of players. We could basically fill the same complaints with some fancy screenshots, since we get the same stuff all the time.

When he talked about this, he didnt mean some sort of matchmaker algorythm, that is behind this. What he talked about, is something, that has to do with logic and has been gathered and discussed here in this forum for years. The logic behind it has to do with the environment, that random matches are. 12 vs 12 (usualy) and you are 1 of the 12 on one team. Its impossible to be that good - or bad for the matter, that you could decide the outcome of each and every game (also, beause logic dictates, that even if you are a top 1% player, the other team will at some point also have a top 1 % player so you cancel each other out). thats where this 7 to 3 ratio comes from. And if you dig into the statistics, you can find confirmation for this. Players with a 60 % WR are already rare. They constantly influence 1 out of 10 games so much, that it turns from a predicted loss into a win. And you can tune this force of impact up. With divisions, with the right ships and the correct line up of ships in a division. This matters a lot. First of all, you need to have a division where each player has the potential to impact the game. Second, they need to pick a ship, which synergizes with the other picks and usualy is of another class. There is a reason why divisions with 3 unicums usualy aint of the same class - unless they want to fool around or dont care. This way, you can bump up the Winrate into the regions of 85...90%. But there still stays a small amout of games, that is unwinable. Simply because in those games, the 9 other dudes on your team are so bad and / or you meet another super good division, so you cancel each other out and its again down to the 9 randoms on both teams.

Yes, sure, no argument there. Your teams were not the best and with some more better players on your side, you could have won some of those games for sure. The goal is to be this better player, that can make the crucial and deciding moves yourself ;)

Well, I watch the Halland game. You might not like what im saying but thats how I see the class and know it to be effective. - you are too much focused on the BB. In the early phase, you torp the Kremlin. You even completly stop and watch the Torps in the "z" mode. Meanwhile, your Gearing to the right of you faces of the enemy Halland. You should have known this, because you have RPF - and it was poiting there. Instead of helping, you watch your torps... - later, the enemy DDs rush your team in the spawn. You ignore it, because you torp an Ohio at 12 km away. The enemy DDs farm and kill your BBs. That cost you the game. - If the enemy DDs overextend and pressure your team - you help them. If one of your DDs is fighting another DD - you join in. Killing the enemy DDs wins the game. Not farming useless damage on the BBs. - If you want to focus on hitting torps, you pick Shimakaze or YueYang. not Halland. Its like eating soup with a fork. Halland is a strong anti-DD tool and weak against BBs, yet you focus on BBs.