ForlornSailor

First screen. He gets flooded from the enemy DD ;)

But how is that suppose to work in practice? If I like to play T8 Cruisers (which are always used to fill the Cruiser-gap on T10), then I need to get into T6-games every 2nd time. The playerbase / numbers dont add up for that (as u say also). Oh well I can think of a solution - T8 rounds with pretty much Cruisers only and T10 rounds with only BBs xD.

You were ~12km from a DD and didnt shoot? BB has all the right to call you out in my book. And if you call the Kurfürst ~2km behind you " camping in the back" - then what does it make u? btw u missed to cross his name in one of the screens.

Oh yea right. Make no mistake - there are a ton of CV Players out there, that only have their dmg number in mind. They dont even look for easy targets. Perfect example only few days ago. Had T7-T9 MM, our CV was a Hiryu, so lowtier as T7. I spotted an AFK Missouri, spend about 30 sec to a) set him on fire and b) launch torpedos towards him. CV noticed the afk ship aswell. He has most of his squads in B at that moment, where our Belfast fought enemy Belfast. Pretty sure our Belfast used Radar, cuz the enemy Belfast was visible. Thats a target the CV MUST go for, especially in this mm. Now what happend - CV immediatly turned ALL his planes - including fighters - to the Missouri. I was afraid of a fail like this and told him in chat: do not go for the afk BB, his AA is still gonna shredd u + I already have torps on the way and fire on him. He didnt care - lost ALL Squads before even dropping the torps. Did I mention we lost? Belfast died without support and enemy CV was way smarter (which was obvious already from that before mentioned scenario) Conclusion: - Those CV players do notice the map and their surroudings. - They dont care about teamplay - They want to farm dmg, no matter if its easy/helpful/intelligent w/e. Ofc this counts only for a part of the CV population. But dismissing, that such play exists, is just closing your eyes.

Accept is a bit too much. Usualy when I have teams like that two or max. three times in a row - I quit world of warships for the day :) Its not like there is nothing else to do.

@klemi007 chill dude. I told u, some ppl are just gonna try to screw around with u here. *cough*bush*cough*wacker*cough*001. You asked, that someone explains, why it happens. Here we go. There are good players. there are bad players. They get mixed with no specific rules, only by class. There are terrible Players with only a few hunderd games in T10 BBs, there are super unicums with thousands of games in T5 DDs bringing their equaly experianced friends in a division. You win some, you lose some. Life goes on. If its really that big of a deal to you - then wows random battles are not for you. Dont get me wrong, im also pissed when Im teamed up with a bunch of clowns but I cant change it at that point anymore - already pressed "Battle". Might aswell play.

This is just matchmaking showing you the middlefinger. Weve all been there. Got streaks of 10-14 loss in a row, where I or my division carried so hard (sometimes 9 kills not enough, dont make me post the screen), then 10-14 wins in a row where I hardly did anything. Anyone denying, that these streaks exist, are just tryin to get under your skin. Nothing you can do about it, really.

You are ofc very right with all the points you make. However, since there are quite a few reports here, and it looks like, those ppl are from all over Europa (I see Danmark, England and Ill throw Finland in) and had the issue at the same moment, it points to a problem with the WG-Servers.

Same here yesterday. Mine went up to 250-300 a few times. Funny when u kilck to shoot your guns and there is a short delay...

To put another spin on this "discussion" - one ship always has to be the "worst" (question is, by what standard and by how far). But if you will buff this "worst T10 BB" then... one of the other T10 BBs will be the worst - right? So gotta buff that... which... makes yet another T10 BB the worst. Following me?

You forgot to check the MBH of that guy. Kurfürst: 23,7% Yamato: 26,41% Montana: 23,28% Conquerer: 22,37% - yet he gets the most out of it - bny far. And has a personal best of 229k dmg ofc in this ship. I have to say im really disgusted, that I have to share the same server with players like this.

I have to say, the impact on the AA is something, that I have noticed too. Its not really mentioned so far as a factor, how RN BBs impact the game. Yet it should. I have tons of games in HE-spamming cruisers, yet their effect is by a far margin smaller. If I take out 3 AA guns in one salvo, its huge. If I focus a BB for half of the match, Ill take out 10-12 AA guns on avarage Id say. (just went through a few screen to confirm that. Ive found 18 disabled AA guns with Donskoi vs a Tirpitz as the max.) Now, take a look at youtube on some Conquerer-replays (did I spell that right, Mr_Coww?), and youll see it takes out 10+ AA Modules with one salvo easy (flamu did 22 with one salvo on a Montana). Ive had my AA diminished on my Donskoi once from 2 salvos Conq HE in the same way as Justin_Sane and couldnt shoot down any plane anymore. If we seriously have to deal with this monstrous HE in the game for the future, survivability of AA-Modules have to increase. By a huge margin!

He is talking about your captain. You didnt choose fireprevention (4 point skill) nor Jack of all trades, which would reduce the cooldown time on Damage Control Party.

Talking about wanting to have a discussion and then make up nonsense like calling the stats of @mtm78 "image of a bad player". I mean you can call a winter snowstorm at -30° a warm summer breeze, if thats your opinion, fine. Just dont think anyone is going to take you serious - now and in the future...

@Ubertron_X Its like mm showing you the middle-finger. "Ill teach em for playing in a division". Had one of those yesterday with Fiji-Div too. Also, Enemyteam had radar, while we didnt. Good times.

Im gonna add one thing to this statement. You do realize and understand you are dealing with a huge number of individuals, right? If you change something in the game, someone will always have a problem with this. Nothing to do with a "whine-community". Maybe cater 100 person with beverages. Then shout in the room "orangejuice is out. only coffee left". Some people will complain. Is your conclusion, nobody likes coffee? Think about it....

Dont forget the speed. You have slow DDs, uberfast DDs, Cruisers with speedboost now. Might aswell print a manual or a table and have it next to you when you play. Actually not even such a bad idea lol

Nope, you are not alone. I find myself often shouting to my divisionmate "do you remember the torpedorange of XXX".

Dont you get it or dont your WANT to get it? Torpedos launched from <3, often even <2 km will almost certainly hit, torpedos from 5+ km - especially since the attacking ship KNOWS he will be torped - have a much lower chance? Also - why does it need to be a BB pushing? I can really be any class. If a Shochrs pushes me with a few BBs around 10km - those 3km WILL make a huge difference. Stop searching for some situations where it wouldnt make a difference and close your eyes on the stuff that gets blocked out to claim its not a nerf...

Oh wait - are you actually complaining about something that... you started to do? My point actually is a real statistic while the other stuff your threw came from your dirty nose. Wipe infront of your own door before you whine. #nuffsaid. #donewithu

Meanwhile, @Jethro_Grey has astonishing nearly 45% WR in his T8 Cruisers!

First of all, thanks @Sub_Octavian for getting involved in this discussion. Granted, if UK BBs shall have HE as their thing, thats ok. Im pretty sure, most people would not have a huge problem with it, if there wouldnt be super-concealment and super-heal on top of that. So the problem is more of a "Jack-of-all-trades". Atleast to me. I wouldnt complain about the Conqueror if he has a concealment of 18km and/or no superheal and/or raised Citadell (pick 2 of those). But about the test/propose thing I will beg to differ. If you test something, you must have thought about it. You did it for a reason. And then you forgot about the Duca or..? I dont really have any other explenation. Same as with the dispersion of the Giulio Cesare.

Well I knew that someday I´ll meet one of those persons for whom they print 200-page-instructions for a Toaster...

Well then you, @Tungstonid, totaly missed my point .

With all due respect (it has been explained in this very thread aswell) - when u create ships, that have stats totaly out of sync, one will come to that conclusion. f.e. I may quote: Also: proposing a IFHE change that would have made a 0 or even negativ firechance on Duca D´Aosta or giving a T5 premium BB a dispersion of a cruisers. Just examples of why your players actually think, developers dont know their own game. Not hatin, just answering your question as serious as I can.