ForlornSailor

resorts to bs when got caught talking cr4p. Sane ppl: 1 - @veslingr 0 (just fyi: thats below avarage)

Confirmed. you cant read or dont understand the word "avarage". Not even talking about logic & mathematics. Please stay away from the internet, mkay?

Since when is "Avarage / good " below avarage? Do you have problems understanding the words?? It literally says AVARAGE & GOOD.

Nah, im not questioning the authenticity of the screen. I wanted to see how the match went. I personally dont give too much about scoreboards & stats - people will see whatever they want to see in them. (I got told, im a bordercamper in BBs f.e. cuz I had a 1% worse hitratio in my BBs then that guy telling me that - what he missed was, that in the BBs we both had, I had better hitratio ) So much for discussions about numbers.

I somehow think the same... However, the scoreboard once again leaves room for interpreation. Numbers of planes shot down are odd. I would like to see the replay of this @MNR1357 Is 52,31% WR concidered to be bad now or what are we suppose to see on that screen? Am I missing something?

Actually, me and many others did this even before the Conq was released on the servers. Also - why would anyone want to play Moskva if you can have Conq? Better concealment + pretty much no citadell + more HP + more armor + better firechance + better Heal and so on. Only advantage is the radar - and WG wanted to give that too to Conq, it did have it in testing. Just face the reality - WG doesnt know what they are doing. GC + DWTs are the next perfect examples.

Oh yea, I understood what he meant. My point stays.

Thats an oxymoron. How does one become one of the best CV Players by ... not playing it.

To be fair: credits goes to WG for fkkup with T4 & T5 CVs which are totaly broken as of now + this. Its not like nobody said those things before either. But yea. Just buy a new premium ship meanshile. Working as intended?

I was vocal about those exact 2. I called for raising XP & credits for potential damage. There are many others around too. Problem is: Oh people care. Many know very well, whats hurting the game and how to improve it. Thing is: the forum is useless. We are writing our damn fingers bloody but nobody listens. Its a futile efford, WG doesnt listen.

See, another one with readin-comprehension-problems. Big time. I knew it. Or just trying to twist my words. Even worse. It was him saying, DDs always behave the same way. I said the exact opposite. Im not even gonna read the rest of your jibberish, cuz the entire thing is based on wrong assumptions. Like I suggested last time: read again - understand - come back - apologize. .

Guess I would need to troll myself then? Congratulations for not reading what I wrote. I´d rather wonder - did you just came here to troll me (judging your choice of the opening words im pretty sure). Because actually you are saying what I say. Now, go back, and read again.

8:41 played - You had a good run. Seriously, do you play like 500 games within 24 hours - else I find your detonation-streak scary...

You are assuming a lot for someone, who has problems to see, what he writes himself. Nope, my point was neither that "MK knows everything always" and neither was it "DDs dont stay away from Radarships". My point is: that one time you are using the exakt same mechanic as a scapegoat, while in the next scenario you deny this stuff existing. You cant take the same fact and twist it 180° each time, just to make it fir your current agenda. Sure, SOME Kutuzovs will missplay with the recent smokechange. I know I did with my Donskoi once and with Edinburgh again. Habits kicking in. If the mechanic would have always been like now, I wouldnt have missplayed. Then again, SOME DDs sure will stay away from the Missouri. Others do know about the radar and still want to risk it. Others simply dont know, forget the position during the game or forget which ship they are looking at. Or they get surprised by a radarship. Its all about players individual skill and situations. Waving the whiteflag cuz making no sense yourself. Round of applause.

going offtopic now, but idc :) @Black0rchid : nice avatar. Is that the Sagres?

My god, saying "what are you saying????" in each post stops beeing funny right about the first time... Why do you think, a MK player can not know the position of enemy DDs? and can not know his own smoke detection range? But at the same time, every DD know the Missouris radar + the position of that ship + the range of the radar. Its so funny, im literally smiling in front of my PC thinking about your chain of argumentation. There is also stuff like islands, you know. Where a BB can surprise someone. Oh no, dont tell me, thats news to you also? I tired to tell you in a reasonable way, but maybe you just cant understand? Im sure others do understand. Or are you so embarrassed of what you wrote, that you keep your hand over your ears + eyes screming "WHAT ARE YOU TAAAALKIIIIN ABUUUUT"

Right... ppl that dont know what is WASD (prolly ~50% of the server population) have all of a sudden perfect game knowledge and know now how to read minimpa + know each and every ship + their comsumables + the different ranges of radar. Do you want a shovel to help dig the whole where you are going with your argumentation? Oh you start to understand the flaw in your argument?

Right... so radar is something that you actually never activate cuz nobody is ever in the reach cuz they all know about the threat it poses. I dont know how I constantly blabb DDs with my Donskoi radar. Record must have been 3 DDs with one radar. How do you explain this?

Im talking about your posts. You might also want to have a look at something called a "nettiquette", just btw... Here you say: MK is nerfed. You spotted them in the smoke. So MK players didnt pay attention to their detection range. Now you say: Missouris radar is permanent cuz everyone is always aware of that radar. Thus every DD always keeps perfect notice of thte detection range. Now you see, where you contradict yourself? Its even worse when you think about, that first its the MK player who has to take care of his own detection range, while the other thing is DDs having to take an other ships radar range into account. Its simply not reality what you are saying.

To be precise: both are l2p issues. First, you call out the MK-players, cuz they get spotted in their smokes (Its 7,72 km afaik), then you say, every DD playing against Missouri keeps automatically away cuz of the radar. Both are pretty much the same thing : control range to a target. First you say, ppl cant do it, thus MK got nerfed, then you say, ppl do it perfectly, thus Missouri OP? hmhm.

That would be me. I went into the scenario with 21 or something matches TK (dont ask why^^) and came out with 8 or 9. That was nice. Understood. Time to get pink. Ill get my DD...

Should have kept shooting him for a 2nd fire!

Thats so true. It counts in so many ways, that we are soon at that point, where its impossible to judge, if a player has done good or bad, looking only at the damage done. Just a few more factors: - If using HE, setting a fire might bring you 0, 5k, 15k dmg. Anything in between or even more really. - If using HE and the enemy uses DCP, you get 0 dmg - but if a DD / CV w/e comes in, torps that guy shortly after - he will get huge flooding dmg, possibly a kill - pretty much thx to the Fire, which doesnt show up on the guy using it. - If a decent player, that knows how to DCP / Repair, is spammed with HE, you will gain huge dmg numbers, that seriously might be worthless or negligeable. But show up as awesome damage. - Personal example, few days ago. Im playing Takao, enemy has 3 DDs. I manage to stay in the middle of the map (Loop) and engage all of them during the time of the battle. I manage to do ~27k or something to them, take out 2. We win pretty easy, my overall damage is 39k. Which sounds bad. I however feel, I influenced the game much more then in those rounds, where I cant bring my Takao in a closer position, resort to HE-Spam and go to 60...80k dmg. So those discussions based on statistics can really be used in both directions. The numbers will suit you either way, if you just build your argumentation around it and focus on looking at things from one direction. I think we can see it in this discussion aswell (Ive been following it, but not commenting so much). Both positions can contradict each other but arent necessarily wrong itself.

Says the guy who is F5-spamming to see if I reply to him :) Go on, act chilidsh if someone tells you your logic is stupid. Why dont you try and quote one and the same person with what you accused everyone of doing? You cant, cuz it doesnt exist. People that are generalizing and cant differentiate between individuals are the worst cancer in forums. Dont come back.

How about you understand, that you are talking with more then 1 person in a forum? Oh boy, that was news to you innit? Yea. I understand. They all played sooo incredible bad, that they got roflstomped and lost. Oh wait.... Which one is it now? First, One Belfast alone is so OP, that it HAS TO take on the complete enemy fleet by himself - next sentence, 2 Belfast are totaly weak all of a sudden, that they literally cant do anything? There are so many contradictions, I cant take anything you say serious. Atleast @Miessa3 shows a form of consistency in his argumentation.