ForlornSailor

Still cant answer. Guess you just have problems admitting im right. Sad.

What? That... didnt made any sense. I guess you just had no way to bring anything up against how the reality is and just want to keep drawing your picture of wows, where the CV is to blame for everything? You certainly do this well.. How about try again and say something about what I threw in the ring? Again - blaming CVs for everything. Matter of fact, I told you in my post - that you chickened out to answer - the full picture, why CBs look like this. Did you play CB-Season? Oh I guess you havent.... Gameplay was completly different without CVs. no wait. It wasnt. What a surprise? For you maybe. Not for me.

Nah. Couple of things wrong here. First, Clanbattles arent randoms. You simply can not compare the two. Many things make the difference. Just to name a few: - They know they have to support each other. All the time. - They all have 19 points captains. (missing on randoms often) - They know there is a CV around and play accordingly (this is missing on randoms, thus allowing CVs to strike the players, that dont pay attention). - They have their Ships & Captains set up to AA (Missing on Randoms. Many ppl dont skill for AA and prefer Hydro over Def AA) Second, its not only the CV that is forcing this play on the DDs. Infact, and DD player rushing in CBs, playing like on publics, would have no place in a CB, let alone KotS. Because they all know, that there is a radar cruiser behind the next island. Don tell me you havent noticed that? Check positions of Des Moines, Moskvas and Minotaurs again and you will understand.

Infact, they are implemented team-oriented right now. Imo, I can hardly think of any other class / ship, that hasnt this level of team-oriented gameplay. I can elaborate, with examples. A CV can strike a lone target, but when ships group up, the CV will have a hard time. Depening on how the entire red team plays and how the red CV synergize with them - a CV can be shut down to a degree of 99% (awesome CV players can overcome this to a degree, will get some dmg and counterplay against the enemy CV, but are likely to still lose the match). Only way to break this, is for the rest of the green fleet to focus the right ship - f.e. take down the Des Moines, Minotaur, Missouri and so on. Conclusion: A CV is depended on teamperformance. Problem: Huge portion of the playermass dont care. They do play the exact same way, no matter, if there is a CV in the game or not. Example 1: I once faced a Superunicum CV, our was a 40% guy - checking stats during loading in. So Im trying to prepare my team for whats going to happen. Some care - some dont. We even had decent DDs, that didnt straight rush alone, beeing spotted by the CV - instead, a Mogami went full speed, way ahead of the fleet. I pinged him, told him in chat "you will be dead in the next min" - I even said this before the first planes showed up. I was right tho. Example 2: Only yesterday we had a hard match on Okinawa, both CVs were above avarage and pretty much even. So it was definatly down to the fleets performance, who can take the win. Im telling the CV to force fights near me and im telling the fleet to stick with me and my division, so that we can help with AA - we were Missouri and Neptune. What happens? First wave, out fleet is still pretty much clustered up, we take a lot of planes down, he panic drops in the end. Hardly any effect. I take A after that (both teams have only 1 DD and they are B/C), then im telling in chat, that I will be pushing B (cuz we lost B and C and its not going in out favour). Missouri is moving B, im moving B - Bismarck, that we covered during the first CV wave, moves behind the islands on A. I notice his turn, I point at him, even tell him "you will die, CV will go for you, follow us". - He didnt. One minute later, he is dead. So. Is the CV "broken" in these examples - or is it rather people, that make stupid decisions? They have all the information needed. They both knew, their AA isnt going to cut it. They had strong AA-ships near, werent threatened by anthing really - all they had to do, was to stick to the fleet. They didnt and rightfully got punished. I dont see any reasonable argument, that would justify to nerf CVs in a way, that they couldnt punish those 2 ships in my example.

As is f.e. a game with range T6-T8 would only be able to have a T6 CV? That would cause atleast 3 huge problems from my point of view. - Anytime you would division with a CV, you would be low tier. Hardly anyone would do this, thus thinning down CVs even more. - The exeption would be T9/T10. This would also mean, that CVs would be seen more on higher tears. As T10 games would have to host T8, T9 and T10 CVs exclusivly. - And a huge part of the CV population cant work around beeing low tier. Needless to stay, Its no fun either - which would lower the CV player population again.

Again this guy... Every 2nd week the same stuff. And he never bothers to read & reply to his own thread. https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/profile/534184694-annibale19ita/content/ Mods. close this non-sense plz.

The point is: Potatoes WILL use those torpedos on max range. It doesnt matter how they should be used or what the devs thought when implementing them - the reality is the only thing that matters. Why do you see German BBs sniping from the mapborder? Cuz their secondaries are so awesome? No, cuz they CAN. thats the point.

On top of that - isnt it awesome, how the topic of the discussion changes? How did we get to japanese Katanas & european Swords.

I was. Nuff said. Be objective for a change.

My initial thought of you was manifested, when you answered to my completly helpfull post. Yea... that would be you, precisely here inventing your certificates. You did already, when you answered again. But dont worry, I wont help you the next time, when you need help plugging in your USB-Keyboard. Oh yea, and I take the 14-year-old back. You went down to 12-years-old level now. Actual teens might be offended by my original judgement. And just for the record: Your "uber speedtest" still dont help at all and shows, you know nothing about networking - while claming to be a professional. Its embarrassing. Now rage :)

He peaks at T II-TIII. Thats hard to do, concidering, how low HP the ships have there. Ofc. Must go fast through all the crap ships. Dreaming of the T X - thats finaly an awesome ride! When one can finaly show the real awesomeness of ones skillz. @Jaguarxjs89 while we sound a little harsh, granted, Id like you to take our advise seriously - stay at T3 max. for the moment and learn how to aim, learn the game mechanics, learn how to angle and so on. A "better" ship on a highter tier will help you nothing. You know why? Everyone else in the red team has better ships aswell. All that will happen, is, that they delete you even faster. Take my word for it. If you want more help, feel free to ask. Im sure ppl will help you out. Also, the British Cruisers are overall pretty hard to play. You might be better of for the start with an other line. French or Russian f.e.

Ye right. And thats why u wrote this in your opening post. Oh wait... basically you showed the knowledge of a 14 year old there. So yea, I absolutly question what you know, when you tried to prove anything with your speedtest-screen in combination with naming the topic "uber lag". Thats how professionals talk. Facebook level of networking-knowledge.

There are quite some ppl with such a setup out there. I truly think, that they dont know about the tech tree - they dont know, that you can research TII...TIII and so on. So to play higher then TI, you must buy premium ship. After all, there are micropayment-games with such a model out there...

How can some ppl obviously obtain those skills then, while others cant? The thing is - playing a CV is bascially like playing an RTS. The other classes arent. There lies the the reason for a) low player base of CVs and b) why so many ppl that play CVs occasionaly, are bad at it. WG would need to advertise CV gameplay more as a RTS-thing, to attract the right ppl. Lets face it - Players, that like RTS-games, wont come here, cuz when you take a short look at the game, it doesnt tell you, it can be played like an RTS. And about the multitasking: Rest assured, the level of multitasking required to play a CV isnt higher then in any other RTS game - some even need more. That is the reason, why some ppl, most likely with prior RTS-experiance, have an advantage over the casual wows-player, that never played RTS and usualy takes his BB out.

Pretty much my same experiance. Wasted credits to buy her. When all stars align & the enemy ignore you, you get a great game. I love all russian Cruisers from TI to TX and make them work with 2 exeptions : Schorchs & Moskva.

I see you know your facts about the Moskva....

I see your Cruisers had the priorities right! Kill DDs? Meh, too hard to hit. Somebody else will take them out eventually. You must be having one of those quality-controlled Missouris. Ive heard good things about them. Mine left the shipyard on a Monday.

The absolute best part you didnt mention: The only one spotting the Gaddjah was me (Missouri with Radar), going full force in B. And nobody shooting the DD, it was complete luck, that he died in the end. The next radar netted our team kills on Neptune & Atlanta - then it was me vs 5 enemys (full Lion, almost full Iowa, I suspect a full Kutuzov and what was the rest? Roon?) and I was wondering - how??? The complete team was gone after ~7 mins. Started to kite away to get as much damage as possible out of this. Meanwhile, the very same Maass started insulting me, cuz im a backline camper only "sailing around". Those ppl - they understand nothing. Zero. They dont see, that I was the only BB near the cap (ok, there was a Nagato, that did yolo past me...) & apparently, if you havent managed to sink your BB after 5 mins, you are a complete boon camper. omg....

Sadly I dont have the Nikolai... but I have Orion...

That is a very likely scenario, I agree...

When you dont know enough ppl to play the other operations, you are pretty much stuck with the weeklys. But for a start, you can add me. I do play Operations quite often and I can bring in 1 more guy.

Well. I will go so far and tell you, im not happy with the current system either. But I know what im getting into each time I hit "Battle".

Oh ofc he is serious. This behavoir is spreading anyway, Ive seen it a couple of times recently, and there was another post also last week, where someone posted, that one lowtiered guy said in chat, he isnt going to play cuz of that. But hey, what to expect when you see this: https://clips.twitch.tv/EnticingLachrymoseToothHotPokket On atleast 2 other occasions (I dont really watch him that often, im sure there is more), he said, he wants to quit to port cuz its standard-battle-campfest. Well done giving ppl ideas. Staying at T4 max would be a solution also. But im sure, OP isnt looking for serious answers here.

I register. For once, an interesting, unique and at the same time really helpful contest. I like it.

You seem to miss the points. Its not about me, its not about the BB. If I would open a thread, every time Im facing +2 mm in any of my BBs - my post could really would match my games played. And why arent you talking about the other Division? Yea, clearly sealclubbers that "deserved what was comming for them". Damn those sealclubbers with 500 games played, stattpadding with their OP-Divisions at 47% WR with his sealclubbing minekazes! How we all hate players like him! Right? Dude...