ForlornSailor

Did you reply in the wrong thread @puffpuff134? I cant see how that, what you wrote, is related to the questions in the OP... @mlgomez its always hard to give advice without actual footage from ingame. Upload a few replays from your recent games - you will find them in the folder World_of_Warships\replays I had a short look on your stats. Drawing conclusions from that is always a little bit sketchy, since it can give a wrong impression. However, your torpedo hit rate seems a little low across the board. Especially with the IJN DDs, thats something you want to work on. Now why you miss a lot of your torps, I cant tell from the stats, thats why im asking for a replay. Then I and others can give you better advice. Maybe its position, maybe your need more practice on selecting targets. Your spotting damage seems ok, so Ill take it you are not sitting in your own smoke but spotting for your team. Thats a good thing. Also: can you post your captains builds? Maybe there is something to optimize aswell. It is very easy right now, since you can reskill your captains for free. You should make use of that, if there is room for improvement.

whats that? alternative facts or already fake news? The Poll during the test was ~30% in favour of the rework and WG said, that its normal, that people are not happy in the early stage and a testing environment doesnt show the real gameplay. You can call your car a plane for all I care - that wont give you the ability to fly tho. So stop talking bs.

Thanks. You are proving a theory, that @DFens_666 and I are having. Just marking him, so that he can see this tomorrow aswell.

Fair enough. For the sake of the game I actually hope you are right and I am wrong. Im still not convinced by the rework.

Nope. Or you want to tell me, there are BB players out there, that figured how to evade 95% of shells fired at them and can move at free will over the map? At the other end, even the dumbest players in a BB, CA/CL or DD gets some damage done (with the exeption of the few that are prolly playing while beeing at lifesupport in their 7th year of coma) First - WR is not a good indicator of performance in a teambased game. You should know that. Second - Computer says "no". Thats early numbers of Lex. I´d rate 1 guy in there as average, 4 are clearly doing bad, 4 are above avarage to super good. If those guys doing bad atm will figure out how to play (thats an "if") I have no doubt, they´ll produce the same numbers as the Top 4. Just to give some context to these numbers: with an avg. damage of 7600 he is one place away from the very bottom compared to the old Lexington - which has 14.134 (!!) players listed with more than 40 matches. Now we have 9 (!!!!) players with more then 40 games. On the other hand, the top player with 109k avg damage already makes it in the top 90 of all time Lex. Not one-dimensional I ask again?

Both. Why? simple. This concept is so one-dimensional, that its one or the other. You either figure out, how to dodge AA - then nothing stops you, or you dont - then you suck and achieve nothing. Its the reason, why we see both ends of the whine in the forums atm (CV OP vs. CV useless & AA OP vs. AA useless).

Is nobody reading what Im writing? This is exactly what I propose... Please dont jump on his stupid "400m turning circle" discussion, since that has nothing to do with what I wrote.

I think the rework made it worse actually. CVs are now playing completly their own game. They cant help with fighters as before and they dont really have the capacity to permaspot targets for their team - unless they give up on dealing damage themself and go into some sort of "flight simulator" mode.

Better for you to take the easy way out. Just for the record: you are wrong. And another one for the record: While you 4 times tried to explain, by showing that a CV cant permaspot and cant attack a DD with a ait detection of 400 m and thus showing, i dont understand the game mechanic - you actually proved, that you acknowledge, that I understand the game mechanics very well. Because thats exactly what I wanted with my innitial suggestion. Oh man I had a lot of tea now.

And yours is not the first nor the last stupid reply that Ive seen in this forum, completly missunderstanding everything but thinking you got it right. And for the 4th time. You are talking about permaspotting while I actually said, three times so far, I dont want CVs to permaspot the DD. Do you really have a problem understanding english or where is the problem? I dont know how to help you because you keep saying "yes you are right but no you are not right" in the same sentence. And now I really have to question your understanding of spotting range again, even you assured me before, you understand how it works.

Your point? Can you read? Sigh. I said it shouldbt be easy. I dont want DDs to be permaspotted from a CV. How many times do I have to repeat my innital statement until you will understand that? Dont try to be smart - you aint. Like I said: Noted. And I dont care, think what you want. Not going to change anything on my view either. Does that bother you that much?

Ideas like that should be tried out on the Test server, which imo should be used way more for exactly things like that. But WGs opinion seems to differ, sadly.

No need. Because I know how it works. Unlike that, you still havent read and / or understood my initial statement. Which is sad, because know im pointing your the third time to it. Yet you keep repeating it , while its exactly what I wrote. Weird. Again: Before accusing others of lacking something, fill your own gaps and understand what people write. Who made you the judge? you dont even understand the suggestions in the first place. Sounds like a good judgement skills.

The only one who is failing to gasp anything is you. Because you keep repeating the things I wrote. Tone it down a notch. I know what I wrote, I know what I want I know how it works I know the consequences. You can disagree with it, its your right, quite frankly, I dont care.

If you continue reading my post - thats exactly what I wrote and what I think needs to happen. Its actually 800m what the CV has to work with. And nobody said it should be easy to keep the DD spotted.

Did you win?

The rock/paper/scissor maybe was somewhat present in the original version of the game, when we had only 2 lines. Now, we have so many lines with gimmicks and special abilities, that indeed it is not the case anymore. We have DDs, that counter DDs hard. We have cruisers, that counter other cruisers way better then DDs. And we have BBs that either are very good in hunting DDs or dealing damage to BBs.

If WG cant fix what they have created - and imo its much harder to fix these CVs as it would have been to fix RTS CVs - then yup, ill vte for this too. We need drastic ! changes to get the new CVs in line. And we need them fast. Not in 6 months. I´ll sure stick around a couple of weeks to see if they change anything but I wont wait 6 months to play the next random game.

I agree with you, that spotting now is stupid. Not sure if seperating CVs even more from the rest of the game is the way to go. I was thinking of drastically lowering the air-spotting ranges of all ships. Something like: DDs ~400 m Cruisers ? BBs ? Now what would happen because of that? DDs will be stealthier. They need this, it can stay like it currently is. It will also be almost impossible for a CV to attack an otherwise unspotted DD, because he couldnt target him. That would shift the focus from DDs, that are playing as they should be, aka beeing in front of the team, spotting, playing for the objective. I think thats good for the game. The CV can however spot a DD, if he found him, for the team. Or he can attack a DD, that is spotted, and thus help his team. Ofc, AA of DDs would have to be changed accordingly. But keep in mind, that if a DD has his AA on, he will still be spotted accoring to his AA-range. So the DD basically has the choice. Not sure what would be good numbers for Cruisers and BBs.

Meh. My free XP didnt jump up. But then again: I didnt own any CVs? So most likely it is related to them.

He didnt. He just likes to sound important.

Yea... I once thought like that too...

Making up things is contributing? And pointing out, you made sutff up is malarkey? lol dude, its exactly round the other way.

Whenever im 100% sure, that there something worth reporting (as it is in this case) I will go the dirct way of contacting someone from WG staff with all the evidence. Also, this doesnt happen that often, I think 3 times for me so far. And since we have the nice stat pages, you can check up a player. All I can tell you is this: When those people, you have reported, arent playing a random game for exactly 14 days - then you know whats going on.

Its kinda interesting that you claim that... given the fact you have played a staggering 0 matches in DDs after the patch.