ForlornSailor

65% WR is not that impressive tho

You´ll get the credits worth, that the CV costs. Concidering, the crowns are useless and you get some nice flags together with the CV bundle, Id still exchange for the CV. The point is fair. If thats his opinion, there is nothing you can say against it. On the other hand - if you obviously think, the entire game is repetitive, I wonder why you dont quit?

Nope. They are also spotted way before they arm.

I wonder... maybe Salem is not for me? Nono, I can explain !!11 And the best game of the evening was this one. The enemy A-divi was really strong. If they´d were 3, it would have been 50:50. Results looks clearer then it actually was, we won by points with 40 sec on the clock, mostly, because enemys had most of the caps most of the time, with their radar cruisers digging in at B and C. I got the DM out with perma-hydroing it through the island at B, always scared, that the A-divi will blabb me (which they tried couple of times!)

IT - DOES - NOT - RADAR - DDs !!!!!!

So I come out of the battle and notice, I got reported. Wondering why, a message pops up: The really funny thing: he lost a gunbattle against a Shimakaze, throwing all his health away, almost dealing zero damage back in return. I only grabbed the kill because I was concerned, he might [edited]up our shima - missing the first 2 salvos at 14 km. By my third salvo, he already was that low. Guess he didnt understood, what killed him... Edit*: Screenshot removed due to language. Forum rules against swaring does not mean we can post screenshots of bad language. On the other hand, If I were you, I would report that player to the costumer support. They should handle him. PS: and please for the next time, cover the full name not a part of it! Have a great day Excavatus

Im 100% chill. Dont take it personal, even when my words were harsh. The forum is a great source to get better. It was a serious suggestion. You think it helps your or the game when you rage? nope. btw: I was pointing out, that skill gap between RTS CV players was the main reason, why the class was concidered unbalanced. Thats widly accepted among the people, that took their time to analyse the situation. Again, nothing personal, just pointing out what was the problem.

You got it wrong. Im the one doing the carry.

You should use the forum to get some help on how to "git gud" and not to make useless rants. Anyway. Looking at your stats in old CVs, its better you leave the class. You were one of those, causing the the innital problem with your poor performance.

Umm... its literally what I wrote tho?

Meh I wouldnt give Fushun all the checkmarks.

Finally you do understand, what I was telling you the last weeks. Its ok, more and more people with understand with time...

You dont. Your teams sucks = you lose. Happens to all of us. Literally one goal of the CV-rework, according to WG (lower CVs impact of the match outcome). We did 2 games Shokaku this evening, once T6-T8, the other T7-T9. was fine.

Nah, maybe simultanious def AA and Hydro. Everything else would really be OP I guess. Speed boost maybe not but that wouldnt fit IJN and it still wouldnt make 203mm a decent choice i guess. What IFHE did is hilarious. I used to play the russian cruisers line before IFHE a lot and these days I easily do double the damage as what my avarage in the stats is. And yea, currently CL > CA. Best example is the US cruiser line.

Access to another Consumable maybe.

Im argueing for this for years. I came to the exact same conclusions as you. In one of the Q&A someone actually asked the devs about CVs +/- 1 specifically and they said "NOPE". So yea... It would solve so many problems but what can we do.

Azuma could have been a "glass-canon", which would have been interesting to play. Challenging, but rewarding. But now...

With 100% certainty I can tell you: Not 100% of the players want a balanced game. As you can read - he wasnt untouchable. Worcester is an AA-cruiser and he used def AA. I actually witnessed that situation, because I was steaming with my Henri to support the Worcester. CV kept stopping the Worcester from capping the objective for a very long time. Much stronger then previous RTS CVs. Its not going to happen. WG is pretty clear on that. After the hotfixes they said, they are very close to where they want to be.

Fun fact: Had a Khaba today in the enemy team, who got 3 kills with torps - almost a double strike aswell. I lol´ed. You two can come back talking with your realism, when we have realistic fleet composition. That means 1 BB, 5-10 Cruiser and ~25 DDs. Or we multiply the maintenance cost of a BB by 20. Which would also fit your "realism-narrative". So you´d lose a couple of million credits playing a BB. That would sort the fleet composition in game aswell. Only then your "arguments" might be valid.

Best thing of the day: And a super close game that was decided by 50 points or so. At one point, I decided I need to go back to save our Asashio, who was hunted from the enemy Grozovoi and was crying for help. So i moved in the broadside of the Grozo, took it out and the Asashio survived with 2,8 k health. That very Asashio went on to win the game. #Teamplay @Forsakenn - I just saw you visit the forum. Well played my friend and you are welcome.

Yup, in the OPs the T6 CVs are making good credits - also, because you often dont lose a single plane .

You two summed up whats wrong with the rework pretty nice. Combine it, and you see it: "CV can spot DD at his will for his team, so DD cant do anything - other CV cant help, because CV vs CV interaction is gone - CV cant do anything else because has only access to one squad, thus boring". WGs bandaid fix was to give (some) DDs such strong AA, that they can selfdefend against CVs. Well, we had a few of those DDs before. But its still stupid, patchwork fix to the innital problem, that lies within the very way CVs are designed now.

Leave aside the numbers, because they are indeed fishy due to the nerfs, the conclusion about skill gap is still very true. You can look up f.e. wows-numbers and check the worst players. Then you´ll see, that we have indeed players, that set new all-time-low records, if you compare RTS with new CVs. If they have done those bad numbers prior to the nerfs - thats even worse. And yea, we have a "hero or zero" mechanic in place, so that is to be expected. The ones, that dont know how to dodge AA and chose the wrong targets - will die miserabrly. And for them, this wont change by small adjustments. What would happen for them if you reduce AA by 5%? by 10%? Hardly anything. You´d need to raise the continous AA damage and reduce the flak to close the skill gap. Yea right. As if thats an option. The other option: scale down all AA by 80%. Scale down all CV Alpha by 80%. Hey, skill gap reduced. Yea right. As if thats an option either. Sadly to say: Ive tried to think about ways to make this new CVs balanced and those 2 things above are the only "solutions" I came up with. Which arent solutions since they are stupid. One will make good players impact useless or CVs useless or make CVs OP - depending how you balance the AA. The other removes all impact from the class, all impact of good players ans all skill-difference. Seriously, I dont see how its balancable. I actually hope for the sake of the game, that WG pulls it off. You maybe can finetune and find some AA/plane HP/attack mechanic values, that work for average and unicum players but will still screw the bad players (we are somewhat at that point atm). But then the problem of +/-2 mm stays, either making CV very meaningfull when is toptier or making it pretty useless when lowtier. I just want RTS CVs back...

Ive followed your posts the last weeks. You meassure everything in damage. So according to your own argumentation: DDs are the weakest class. PS: One screen says nothing. Never has, never will be.

No no. They dont forget or ignore that. They are very well aware of it. But they want to have their cake and eat it... The forgot about T10 DDs. I dont have much hope anymore. Have you seen the last server stats? Its an eye-opener. Nobody plays YY, Khaba, Z-52. We have hords of braindead shimas tho.