ForlornSailor

Yesterday in ranked the enemy Riga parked full broadside in the center of Hotspot - he remaind ontouched for minutes. Neither our cruisers nor BBs cared. My mogami passed him at ~10 km while he was using only his back turrets to farm a JB on 9 line, while I was shouting, clicking, doing everything to make him aware. I even told him to load AP to shoot the broadside Riga! nah. Ofc the Riga then did load AP one took out the Mogami with 2 salvos. But yea, those are the games, when you play a DD, that you know, are lost. there is just no way in hell, to win them. Similar happened the game after, but what wsa even more funny, was, that our BBs this time could talk. Then, it was a radar edinbrugh on sleeping giant, alone in the center again, that made my Georgia run and hide in the left corner. When I asked him to push in or if he is afraid of a cruiser, which he can overmatch - it was apperently my fault. Im such an idiot, according to him, that I pick Asashio, because DDs are supposed to take out radar cruisers. Right. The other side meanwhile was running from a Benson and leaving our home cap, with 3 ships. That was ofc also - my fault. I was supposed to kill the enemy DD. Because thats neither the job of our radar cruisers. or the CV. So when I took out the JB, that was pushing up behind the Benson, you would think, the Baltimore would then come and help me with the benson - which im already spotting, right? no. he ran. Benson smoked up. did I get a radar? no. Even when I asked, bagged and klicked. So I took the gunfight with the Benson because he was about to take cap number 3. But our 4 "masterrace" players (BBs+CV) had this aaall figured out: it was all my fault. I didnt kill the DDs (ah wait, I did, but its not like they understand), I didnt kill the radar cruisers, I didnt single-handedly get all caps aaand I didnt protect them from the BBs. All that was missing, was blaming me for not shooting down the planes. Ill post chat and minimap to entertain you guys: Ofc our Musashi explodes from one torp, which is also teams fault: aand this is endgame then: BBs savely tugged behind the island, where they cant shoot anything.

nonono, bad boy! you need to think like WG! sit in back, shoot HE from Thunderer - now THATS the way to play!

Since you talk about gathering steel - I guess you plan to play clanwars? Many clans there will indeed use voice coms then. But there sure are some that dont. Check our this forum section: you can leave your own post there, looking for a clan, presenting yourself, or you browse the list of clan, that are looking for members and find one, that suits you: https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/forum/507-clan-zone/

My work stops me from that.

I dont know where to start. You seriously think, that you deserve to win? Ok, upload some replays so we can see the rotten apples dragging you down. Lets us judge for ourself.

Sounds like a problem on your end. I dont experiance any ofthe things you mention.

And if you´d instruct them, they would wipe their own face with the dirty paper, after they are done with their behind, looking at you angry with a face gesture, that tells you "SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I FOLLOW YOUR ORDERS? YOU AINT SO SMART AFTER ALL HUH!" Seriously: What I found working, is, using a little bit of reverse psychology. You go like "what you think guys, shall we push B-side?" so you pack your actual demand into a friendly question/suggestion type. It seems to work atleast more often then just communicating with demands or the F-keys. That seems to piss a lot of people off. In the end, I dont really care what works, as long as everyone does what I want them to do .

It makes perfect sense, especially, when you have seen the meta change over the years. Playing DD has gotten harder yet easier... because the opposition in terms of good DDs is missing. Ive faced exactly ONE good DD player within the last weeks, that knew, what he is doing and refused to be outplayed while using his advantages over me (Shima vs Grozo). Usualy the enemy DDs are just something you stomp over in the first 3 mins. Then you get to fight to somehow deal damage and dodge CV attacks. fully agree on that one. Ive now triggered my migraine twice while playing DD because its not a relaxing game, its full stress with pressure on, starting 40 sec in the game when the first planes pop up, until the moment the game ends. Meanwhile, I can pick a BB and just cruise to 150k damage rounds in T5, snacking some nuts in between salvos. Quite frankly, it digusts me how WG has turned the game into world of battleships.

I think, a somewhat similar movement has started in our Discord. Guys are runing 899 divs for days now, dumping on CVs. Looking at the screens, they have already sunk the same CVs several times and obviously, they already knows whats going to happen to them. #sink1500CVin899 maybe the guys can post the names of the sunken CVs here aswell ^^

Asashio keeps on giving. Almost died twice to Kagero torps, because that dude threws widespread torps into my general vicinity and ofc each time one of them is headding for me in an almost undodgable way. One of them I dodged by slamming the imaginary brake pedal below my desk - am I the only one doing this or do you guys know what im talking about? :D

But... if MM would match CVs by winrate, and suceeds in making the games even, they would all lean towards 50%, right? So your 31% CV would have 50% WR right? As would have have the enemy CV, right? You know where im getting at? Since they both have 50% then, mm could again match them against each other, so it would look balanced. (also the other stats would be getting more even, when you have a bunch of 40%ers playing each other, there is still the same health pool around and someone will do the damage).

I still cant decide on which DD to play in Ranked. I go with one and then get into a setup,where Id wish to be another. So today: Asashio again. For once I had a clear path and got to torp some targets freely. 4 possible targets - I tapped em all ^^ But its crazy: the last days, I have problems getting kills! The final hit is always denied to me. Ah well, better than losing ranked while having 4 kills I suppose.

ELO is great for solo / 1vs1 games or even team-based competition but I really feel, that in our environment, it will have problems to judge the real impact / level of a player. I mean win rate to a degree is our of your reach, especially in the short run. What makes this especially hard, is, all the different ship classes, tiers and different ship lines. Unless you have an ELO for each ship - and even then, they tend to vary over time, since the game changes, nerfs and buffs happen, and so on. Yes, thats smaller fluctuations... It would also have to take into account damage dealt to WHAT target and what kind of damage. Right now, PR doesnt calculate this for example, which in extreme situations leads to completly stupid results. It would atleast be super challenging to implement.

This is about randoms tho.

Or imagine, when you witness how your team of actuall humans on T10 throw a flank while outnumbering the enemys 7vs3 - when your blood already boils from T3 bots throwing a game... uuuh ^^

The funny thing is: OP is right ^^ Right now, when you start a new account, you play with 90% bots in randoms. Then there are some games, where you will lose, because your bots are clearly inferior to the red bots. I dont know if thats really random, result of a snowball effect or if there is some other factor... but seriously, once in a while, the bots will absolutly throw the game. They will even lose 4vs1 situations.

After you derailed your own topic? Because you couldnt deal with my and other peoples opinion? You then went down to a personal level, violating forum rules by shaming and personal attack and now you call for a clean up? man, report yourself dude...

For someone, whos entire argument is based on "I dont care about stats" he uses a lot of stats & bashing for his argumentation :d Is this comedy?

You post mentions a lot of important things, especially whats going on behind the scenes. This part is especially true - and I would argue, that we are already at this point. Maybe we have been there for quite a while already. It has been / is a steady progress, thats for sure. New players have a very hard time getting in the game. WG could atleast easy up the pain by ... i dont know, putting a low-tier campaing in the game, which yields massive amount of signals, camoflages etc and which can only be achieved when having played LESS than 1000 games on the account. That would make it a little bit easier to get into the game. But as it stands, new players are getting frustrated with the games, once they reach T5 or leave the protected matchmaking, since they are not competetive - not by knowledge, not by skill and for sure not when it comes to ship setups. And the protected matchmaking doesnt help really. They play among each other and bots so they learn a complete wrong way to play the game. Then they face the reality and struggle even harder. The solution for many is: take the way out by buying a high tier premium BB. I doubt they are having fun but for sure more fun compared to playing a Karlsruhe and Königsberg, trying to grind up the line... Once again, the action is up to WG. But we can only guess about their drive and how efficiant it is, to keep pushing the game into this direction. Maybe its worth it to milk new players like that and have them quit within the first year or first 1000 games again... If so, that would be bad for us as a community and the game in the long run.

Just some facts: - You started it - You even continue in this very sentence. And to put some salt into your wounds, im gonna say this: Alright, I suck and I get carried by my division mates. Now in return you shall refer to those guys, that I play division with, as gods. Since they carry a potato like me to 66% Winrate, they must be World or Warships finest and actually deserve a Wirnate WAY above 66% since im dragging them down. So that is "God @DFens_666" and "God @Bear__Necessities" for you from now on, you weak mortal.

Well, because the short answer [for that situation] is: "SAP works exactly like AP"

Ah the personal hate comes through. good boy! let it flow. Totally ignoring the part of - if will change NUFFIN (I know why you ignore this part - because you know its true and you dont have any arguments against it) - rewards will be lower for good players then why you pad your mediocre stats with CVs? gitgud. likewise with the pity. If you would atleast make up something, that doesnt come back right away kicking your own behind even harder, that would be cool. Oh yea, and what is said above.

Its not new. Its a global mechanic and SAP works for over a year like that aswell. a) I did read and understand the question MORE then properly - more than you thus b) it is obvious you didnt understand the mechanics of penetration on a global level. Which you even admit here: Thus you didnt know how HE and SAP damage is calculated and how their penetration works. Those are global mechanics. Anything else that we can help you with?

Thats why there is a rating in any clan-mode. You will be matched to clans within the region of your rating. Which makes sense in a mode, where I can chose with whom I play with compared to a random game mode which is... random in every way. So yea, dont get any dreams about skill-based matchmaking in randoms, it aint gonna happen.

Yes, it is. unless you dont understand the mechanics of the game, which you have only yourself to blame for. But no wonder, when you shut down this part of the discussion before it even starts - then you will never get it...