DFens_666

Ive played a couple of Cruiser games in the first season - no carry potential at all. Usually first week DD seems to work best. After that, BB works too. Ive tried a few Pommern games, and it just depends whos DDs are competent. Last game was a walk in the park with it, i rushed a Z in his smoke with hydro and killed it, meanwhile my Benham on the other flank annihilated half the team.

Did he say he was intentionally losing? If so, you might have a chance. Send replay and screenshots from the chatlog to support, maybe they will act upon it, if he is a repeat offender.

We should have ranked for that - and even there WG doesnt care for. At best we have Brawls and CBs for it. Well, even Brawls got kinda screwed since its not about Clans anymore, but you can do full random-div. So only CBs is basicly fighting amongst equally skilled players. And what happens in competetive levels of play? One meta evolves, with only 2-3ships being played. You do the same for randoms, the highskilled players would be forced to play only the strongest ships. Otherwise, they will jut get flamed by their teammates. Imagine everyone bringing Alaska and you take Ibuki

I thought we are way passed that point? Wasnt it clear why this doesnt work? - Good players cant get matched, because there are not enough of those around. Not to mention, SU CVs, how is it fair putting someone like El2azer with 80% Solo Enty WR against a SU DD/BB/Cruiser? He can just kill the enemy SU, and its GG. And you cant put 2 of him against each other, because 1) doesnt exist, or maybe there is 2 other CV players who can match his skill level and 2) you would artificially lower his WR - again why? He can easily get 2-3k XP in any faceroll win ontop of that. - Good division are even harder to match against each other. What if one 65% Div is playing T8 ships, the other is playing hardcarry TX with CV. Couldnt be more unfair. So either you match them on extremely unfair grounds, or you dont match them, and they sit in queue... well forever pretty much. - Bad players get artificially better WR because they should win more often. - You cant get "perfect" balance because you dont know how/why people play the way they do. As i said earlier, ive heard people say "GAME LOST" and they suicide. How do you account for this? One team will always have suiciders which die faster than others - Even if you somehow manage to spot suiciders, what happens if they are i different classes. F.e. 1 DD game. 1 DD is a suicider, the other is decent. Instead on his team, there is a suiciding Cruiser. I think we agree how games with imbalanced DDs tend to go, when one team has no DD anymore? Losing 1 Cruiser doesnt matter at all, half of them is dead anyway after 5 minutes. If you look closer, i havent played Solo in basicly 3 years... also ranked: Which is more than my acc WR, so i guess im good to go Guess that Statshaming didnt go too well.

Huh? Its people being retarded that cause landslide losses - nothing else.

Maxdamage is always citadel damage. Pen damage is always 33% of maxdamage, unless saturation kicks in (or hitting a secondary mount). 7850 is max damage, one pen is 2591 on an unsaturated area. Once the area is half-saturated (slightly dark colour of the area), damage drops by 50%. So from 2591 down to 1295~1296 depending how it rounds. When an area is fully saturated (black colour on the ship area) you only get 10% damage from a pen - which means for 7850 SAP damage, you would only get 785 damage. Note, this does also happen if you pen a secondary mount. So the 6286 is hard to explain directly, there has to be some saturation kicking in somewhere.

Thats what im running on Pommern/Massa. Pommern is just for ranked/Brawls. Massa works like that in randoms too. Because passive Meta, i dont want to play Pommern in randoms, better take Musashi/Missouri or something else instead. Manual sec is quite expensive true, but without it, secondaries might be useless? Do you have some data to compare maybe? Thats my Pommern secondary hitrate in ranked (only 2 games tho). Which is slightly worse than my old german secondary BBs which ive played some years ago in randoms (23-24,5%) Scharnhorst also has slightly above 24% in randoms, which ive played before the skillchange. So imo not a big change. Also because secondaries open up on both sides and on unmarked targets, a slightly lower hitchance is to be expected anyway. Doesnt make them useless tho, most important is how much damage you get out of them. And i basicly have the same with Massa than i had before the change. Only now, i get better mainbattery reload ontop of it.

Good luck finding 3 when its a division

I dont think there is a problem with the secondaries. Its only the meta which sucks. Ive had same success playing secondary Massa. Heck i had a Pommern ranked game with 53k (60k including fires) secondary damage, in which way does that justify a buff!? Maybe try NA or RU server, ive heard people are more aggressive over there, and maybe secondary ships are more fun. And then you will see, secondaries still work. German BBs got an independant accuracy buff, they are only slightly less accurate than before.

How do you account for people suiciding because they think the game is lost? I think this became a really HUGE thing lately. This just turns every game into a roflstomp, without any chance to balance it out. F.e. 5 enemies were spotted around C-cap on Hotspot in ranked. My Kitakaze suicided in 2 minutes. But after that, Kronshtadt went flat broadside into the cap against 3 BBs, despite him knowing all the enemies are there. After him followed a Neustrashimy... Either they did it on purpose, or they are retarded - neither way will be solved by skillbased MM. One game they might play properly, the next they suicide again because their brain turned into scrambled eggs.

I know someone who had Lepanto in his first bundle... funnily enough, he returned to wows after long absence not too long ago. must be coincidence Might be worse if we see people driving around with the T8 ship or Lepanto with the Roman camo. Then we know, they had to whale quite a bit

So lets say, you use one captain for Montana Alabama Kidd Saipan Atlanta Previously, you needed 4 captains to do the same. You could use your Montana captain on Alabama, but he was basicly useless on all other ships. If you wanted to have new skills for your Atlanta captain, did you also complain that it didnt reset all other captains?

Players on NA (aswell as RU) are truely speshuul arent they? Also a different type of speshuul than on EU, ofc they are just retarded here aswell, but they are [edited]pussies here. Today again 3 BBabies shitting their diapers in ranked

Some funny times, when you try to tell your most stealthy cruiser to spot, i remember some no-DD midtier games from back in the days. Usual response was "I CANT SPOT"... yeah i wonder why not

Is that a serious question? I mean, its quite obvious that WG wants all tiers to be crap except T9+10. Because if everything else is crap, then they think people will spend money to get faster into hightiers. Either just buy a T9 premium (or even a TX...) or get premium account, signals/camos, convert FreeXP and buy credits. Its pure money milking. Thats why, with the MM changes like 1-2 years ago, T7 was turned into crap. It was waaaay too popular, because it faced T5 all the time. Now its basicly the worst tier. T6 also pretty bad. T5 got slightly better with the change imo. And T4 is CV hell. T8 still kinda crap alltho less crap than it used to be. T9 and T10 - thats where the """ fun """ is, atleast when you concider fun to be toptier all the time. People are not supposed to know the game. The less people know, the more money WG can make

1. yes 2. Depends how good you are. Should not be worse than coop.

One more thing Was my first game this season Funnily, the Georgia atleast tried. He went ahead too far, while our Lightning and Bismarck were both AFK. He got farmed by multiple enemy ships shooting HE at him, he just burned to death in like 4 minutes. Our Bismarck was talking, refused to move tho. Lightning was AFK for 5+ minutes. Bismarck at some point just suicided, shooting at BBs. Lightning didnt do anything really, except trying to yolotorp an Alaska, and he even failed with that. Last ship alive, he started to shoot into the water to die Bismarck and Lightning were the griefers in the game, not the Georgia. Georgia tried, but he is a newb. Had a couple of hundred games played. Bismarck has 14.000 ! FORTEENTHOUSAND battles played, and thinks he is the admiral of the fleet. Also he has LESS THAN 40% WR on his acc!!! He is actively sabotaging his team, as he did here too, because we didnt do what he was ordering us to do. No system in the world can detect those crap heads, and dont give them rewards. Imagine if they won, they would have had more XP than 500 anyway... I barely see anyone ever having less than 500 XP in a win. At best its a DD that detonates or dies in 2,5 mins to a torphit.

They dont get that anyway, thats why they suicide in 2 minutes. Once my electricity went out while i was playing a ranked game - i did move and shoot, had like 40-50k damage IIRC. Then everything went dark, and took like 10-15 minutes till it returned. I went back ingame, we won, i didnt get a star. So even if you are not AFK, but leave the game while being alive (i guess thats what counts) you dont get anything for it. But people being creative, they just hit W, shoot a bit and die. So yeah, thats just as bad as being AFK... New game every 5 minutes, thats like 12 games an hour, even if you get ~40% WR, thats 5 wins on average, so 2-2,5h of speed suiciding, they got their rewards for bronze. And imagine if they would play properly, they would only look at 50% WR at best, but then they need to play 4h or something because they play twice as long.

Ive had a couple of meltdowns this year already, yet nothing happened... maybe they go for the big one and i get a 3 months ban or something

But people will hardly see that?

The issue is a lot of changes lately. People dont have their captains specced, and if WG does some shenanigans in CBs, we might need to use different captain builds. So easiest way is to not spec captains right now, which also means playing T9 ships might not be possible for people who are looking to play CBs. If they have planned this for months ahead (as you claim) they might aswell tell us what they have planned Only thing they said is, that they probably will ban/limit ships in the upcomming season.

Well, superstructure is basicly saturated after 10-20k damage, and then you only get half damage. So plunging SAP is especially nice on angled targets, where you cant pen the hull.

i checked the gunarcs on wowsft, and apparently at 20km the impact angle is 20 degrees, which is just enough to get no more ricochets (their SAP has 70-80° ricochet angles). Starting at 14km, you can (theoratically) get deckpens apparently (10° impact angle), alltho with such a shallow angle it seems rather unlikely that you would hit that in the first place. Maybe someone gives it a try, could be interesting to see atleast.

This ship might be stronger slinging SAP from 20km+, because SAP will punch through the deck from that range Someone should test how the damage is compared to getting closer. I expect it to be the same as Venezia, where you shoot from 20+km you start to get insane 15k damage salvos, as to when you get closer, you only get half of that...