DFens_666

Since u havent really played RN Cruisers, id say u dont know that they pretty much need that smoke. WGs way of "balancing" smoke was to give them abnormal high citadel (Neptune and Minotaur) and thin plating in general. And since they dont have HE, they cant sit at 15+km and deal damage. AP is weak at that range and the shell flight time is so bad, hitting even a BB becomes tricky.

Well depends. If i would have stayed equally far back and not push caps, they wouldnt have got me -.- Because they dont listen to the Supertesters? And considering WGs own ppl? "Im shy so i like to play BBs shooting from the back" Certainly makes perfect sense then... Camp at 20km and with 12,xkm concealment, u will basicly always vanish in between shots

Yep, wasnt too hard to figure out or? How Come WG isnt able to see that? First match of the day we 2 BBs, enemy 3 BBs, 8 DDs in total. Basicly they never get the 90k since every DD is torping any ship overextending, and u almost need a BB for that. In that match (Missouri) i took torps from 3 different ships... so yep, like 10k for each of em... Its even worse than the BB mission in Stage 4 imo. Atleast there BBs were shooting BBs, so Cruisers got some breathing space. But now? DD insanity with yoloing, torp soups and overall shitty gameplay since Capping is now overrated...

U forgot that higher tier ships also got a better fire resistance coefficient... http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Fire So not only has the lower tier ships a worse fire chance, no, he is even more punished by that, and thats hidden information too! Have to disagree to that ofc

US CVs -> u already are at T10. Shokaku u got 122 games, guess u should be pretty close to T9 already? (If its that horrible, play the remaining matches in Coop, this is not a joke! I did so with bogue after they screwed the manual attacks and 2 times i was paired with T6 CVs and i said [edited]it) Btw u still have better WR than with T9/T10 CVs (even the damage is not that far apart) so wouldnt it be more fun to play T8? While everyone else (or atleast a vast majority) has less fun... I see enough Hightier CVs when i play. SUre not every game, but even if i play only a couple of matches per day, usually i have them in 1 or 2 matches.

Why does that suddenly matter? If u are only playing 4fun then it should be more fun to play against brainless bots who gladly eat torps and show broadside sometimes? I personaly dont care what ships ppl bring to ranked - a Good player in the worst ship is still better than the worst player in the (supposedly) best ship. Not shocking, but i wonder why u are argueing like that when u play ranked for winning? I mean, that makes most sense because winning = get more rewards! Still the point: Why play ranked if u want to have fun? (I think it was your initial arguement) Unless u are having fun when u make other ppl miserable with your actions...

Coop is 8v8 so basicly the same Only an incentive to get it done faster Basicly the only point to keep playing ranked - even tho it means u are never toptier either! SO u admit u are only trolling your teammates? Might aswell TK u when i see u in ranked then?

Unfurtunately, there is some truth in what @Sander93 says. With all the stupid gimmicks WG is introducing, the "older" gimmicks do ofc give advantages over even older ships (KM BBs with Hydro > IJN/US BBs, but RN BBs Concealment+HE > KM BBs). And then they made DWT for PA-DDs, which are only targeting which ships? Cruisers and aggressive BBs.... And to evade those without someone spotting them, hydro is the only option. In general those Thermonuclear-HE-Spamming RN-BBs are a bane for any BB which dares to get in their range. Had a Missouri games couple of days ago with 2 Monque-errors spamming HE from 20+km... good job WG Me helping my DDs/Cruisers did result in me getting punished.

Would be a welcome change for ppl to ACTUALLY GIT GUD for once. They wont ever become better players for the simple fact that they "dont have to". They are passing by with they shitty play, always blaming the others. Maybe BBabies would finaly start angling if they would just die faster? Well, probably not when torps are considered, watching a stream once, where he accnowledged that torps will come his way soon (DD spotted), saying after that "there is nothing he could do about it"! Srsly? Probably us normal slobs cant understand the hard work of driving a BB. U know, keeping your eyes focused in Binocular view and clicking the mouse button every 30 secsCant possibly expect him to use his other hand to use WASD-keys... Its for sniffing glue Wouldnt the arguement: Only good players will benefit from +/-1 MM include, that only bad players are playing hightier ships?

The problem is, u dont know how many pens/shatters/bounces the enemy is rewarded for shooting u. So u can never know what the game is showing on the other side of the table.

Sure but demanding to be always toptier when playing CV is ludicrous at best? Ofc there are other examples: having a Saipan in the enemy team and the majority of ships is T5/6 Being the sole or maybe 1 of 2 T8 Cruisers in a T9/T10 MM. ... and so on. Point is: Noone makes u play T8 - its your own free will to take that ship and press battle. If i play a T8 Cruiser, i know the crap can hit the fan pretty often. And i cant change that, only WG can. And obvisouly they wont. So we all gotta live with that. Ranting about shitty MM is one thing - Demanding to be toptier always is another.

So Random AND coop aint enough for u As i said, i consider Ranked wannabe competitive anyway - doesnt mean i shouldnt play to best of my abilities. If i want to be lazy and just shoot something i can go for coop? Why deliberately lower the fun of other ppl? unless i enjoy that my team loses stars ofc...

actually did find a use for that: Hindenburg (ofc with Reload mod) so my range is only 17,8km. Now use Spotter plane + Spotter mod and i got better range for 2+ minutes. Especially useful in the early stage when the targets are too far away for AP shooting. DCP Mod: So i was right that the only use is CVs xD Was thinking about that myself. Imo the biggest problem is, that the CD doesnt get reduced, so what do i win in the end? Nothing basicly. I get one salvo where i cant be set on fire (deping on ship) If a BB shoots HE at another BB with 30 sec reload, the DCP mod wont help u at all basicly, since the best DCP is US (? was 20 secs right) which gets increased to 28 sec, still lower than 30 sec gun reaload. And its basicly still iffy since u would optimally not repair the first fire. And who say u wont get screwed by that? For the worst case u might have 8 sec more flooding! Maybe it shouldnt increase the duration, rather reduce the CD... makes it much more viable suddenly.

Farm Damage? With almost 10k games one might think that u properly know tier-by-tier differences.... How about T6+T7 DDs in T8 MM? Since T8+ has the concealment module they are far superior to the other DDs. DD cant fulfill his role because he gets outspotted by enemy DD! Or Cruisers who have much lower shooting range between some tiers... Also no heal...

No, u are the Kid. How about when u are toptier and EVERY SHIP which is not toptier (so i guess everyone but u and the enemy CV?) stops playing? See your flawed logic now maybe?

Obviously u are delusional then - since your highest CV damage is 223k. Pathetic mimimi i cant play the game HOW I WANT, [edited]EVERYBODY ELSE! How can one be so selfish? Go play Coop, the bots are probably the right enemy for u, since u can devastate them easily, because that is what u want... Just a friendly reminder: If i ever got u in the game and u pull a crap move, ill report u to WG with a link to this thread, hopefully they deal with u for good after that!

Unless its German Turtleback armor, i dont think u can really overpen a citadel (unless submerged, but then u dont hit the citadel, same as german citadel) Looking at Cruiser armor, they usually have enough plating to arm the fuse. And the citadel isnt really that submerged on cruisers, its usually a little above the waterline.

Yes, even with Bismarck its easier to citadel a Cruiser turning broadside and kill him. Every time lately with Missouri its just overpens. It gets to a point when u think: Shoot there? Or lower? or Higher? Wait one or 2 more seconds maybe? The problem is when nothing works... Even shooting a broadside Minotaur at 7km didnt give me a citadel lately I rather wonder how i did get penetrations, since its otherwise so soft that the shell shouldnt even fuse

Actually thats EXACTLY what they should do! Idc if Ranked is "wannabe" competetive (thats how i see it), still everyone playing ranked should want to get up in the ladder and play to the best to his abilities. If someone has only 1 T8 ship fine, thats cool. But playing with shitty captain builds and without Premium Consumables (or suboptimal consumables) AND WITHOUT CAMO (!), i suggest play random - or better play Co-Op. A lot of ppl playing Random like Cruiseship-simulator should effin go play Co-Op. They dont care about anything anyway, if they lose or win or deal 0 damage they dont care. Play against Bots, atleast u dont drag your team down in the process. If u play to relax or have fun, really play Coop? Where is the difference...

But those ppl throw ANY game... I played 3 ranked games so far, and every time its the same procedure. Since i currently only have Takao and Bismarck as T8s i rather went with Takao (but i think Bismarck might have been the better choice for the mid-low ranks). 1. match Hotspot, we started where A is. I go fullspeed A, i get single cap! (no DDs), because noone managed to get in the cap in time lol... I say, ill go to C check what happens. First: Mogami and Bismarck follow me, the 4 remaining ships camp in A. I spot an enemy Takao going C also, but he turned after i shot him. So i cap C mogami and bismarck still following me... Enemies push B to A, i say retreat... nothing happens, on the contrary, all our BBs steam in, i cant torp. Mogami and Hipper start chasing the Takao which i scared away from C eventually all dieing. (in the meantime we had Caps B+C and A was capped by enemy team but constantly resetted, still they pushed to die) 2. Match Hotspot again same spawn also no DD. I get A, then say: Ill go C DONT FOLLOW ME. They all camp in A, even manage to kill a NO which overextends. I cap C so we have CAP AND SHIP lead. Our NO leaves the islands -> Dies. Edinburgh follows, smokes full speed -> Dies. First BB follows him -> Dies. at that time it was over anyway since some ships flanked from behind A while the others were between A/B. In the end im alone vs 3, kill 1 more and die aswell. 3. Match Trident, no DD again (like -.-), our team wants go A, fine. I go ahead, say Radio points A. I turn before cap shoot a bit at the BBs. Our Atago goes in and dies ofc. All enemy SHips are around A, i say ill go cap B then (being the fastest ship). NC heads into A -> Dies, 2 Bismarcks follow me to B, ENemy Edinburgh rushes also B (which i knew from Radio), rams a Bismarck (luckily he survived), meanwhile our Hipper dies somwhere at B2/C2, Tirpitz rushes into A -> Dies so we are 3 vs 6... The only thing which saved the match, was that enemy HIpper and Mogami charged us while being almost Dead. So 3vs4. My 2 Bismarcks manage to kill enemy NC and another Bismarck, i kill the Noob Tirpitz who had HP Perk/RPF and shooting HE at me. When i realized he had HP perk i just expected him to be the bottom scrub, so i took him 1v1. Easy kill. In the end we got A+B with me vs Bismarck. He caps A, i run away -> Win.

Id like to add from my ranked game yesterday: Tirpitz with HP Perk AND RPF! SHOOTING HE!!! Basicly any Cruiser: Go out full broadside against the enemy fleet and die within seconds (even an Edinburgh managed it with smoke...) Basicly any BB: U have kill lead and Cap lead: CHAAAARGE

Some questions were a bit tricky to answer, like 2) + 3) i went with the option which seem to occur more often. And 6 would need several options.... unfurtunately i had to go with DD, normaly its CV, because its just too often that they screw around. Furtunately, they arent around that much, so i picked DD. Playing mostly Cruiser/Cruiser or Cruiser/BB division, the thing i need most is a good DD. SOmetimes u can live without a BB, even when they play like potatoes often. But when a DD is utterly stupid on hightiers, it will cost u the game more often than BBs sitting at 20km. 8) i played 3 games ranked so far, the stupidity is unbearable... In every game we get ship + cap advantage, and every time my team think its good to go out, full broadside to the WHOLE ENEMY FLEET and die 1 by 1... Every time i tell them what to do, and often they seem to respond with "wilco" but u think they do that? nope...

Actually when u think about it, this makes sense. If u are able to survive, u will ofc deal damage. So especially when your team is miserable, u can deal large amounts of damage. If your team would have been capable, they would have dealt more damage aswell, leaving less for u Havent worked for me for atleast 1 week... @ OP I guess your team had a case of Broadside-ism

Are u sure u didnt already finish it? Popped up for me aswell yesterday or the day before, but i already had finished it as far as i remembered... Just a bug

Stumbled across a bug today, when i was playing Missouri with Steven Seagal as captain. At some point i wanted to shoot HE against an angled NC, so i was waiting till AP was reloaded (reload because AR was 26~ secs). Ammo switching did take 6,6 seconds, after which i wasnt able to shoot for an additional ~20 secs (which indicates i would have switched ammo without Expert Loader skill) Gonna write a ticket to support aswell, but just a heads up that something weird is going on.