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Minotaur is OP with HE. The problem in general with PA-DDs is exactly that: The enemy DD doesnt have to fear Torps from them. Yes, giving them both Torps would probably be bad just like that- but i dont think they are quite balanced anyway. And then there is a difference between DWTs on PA-DDs and DWTs for Asashio. One can hit Cruisers, the others cant. Pretty significant difference. Overall thats why i think DWTs on DDs are plain bad. They promote bad play. I rather would see DWTs on CVs or as i mentioned Cruisers.

Yes i know, its hard to say what WOULD have happened if it would have stayed the same. Currently i think most ppl will do it because they either see others do it, they dont get support, or they just feel safer doing it.

Someone said, back before CBT as i recall, BBs actually were pretty accurate and played more aggressively. Then WG decided to nerf them, and they started to camp. I cant varify that, but it sounds logical. Imo thats a big problem, when u have to rely on RNG in close combat, otherwise u are dead. Ofc secondaries cant be like little Cruisers strapped to the Side - but i think it would work. And id rather have BBs strong in close combat than strong from 20kms... Shooting BBs at long ranges is far less rewarding than shooting Cruisers, because the guns are very inaccurate. Even when u aim good, u might end up with 5k damage. Budyonny? What about it? I mean 4km torps arent that usefull. - I would prefere to use secondaries manually rather than have "noob secondaries" which just shoot automatically. - Makes only sense when u would have "manual" secondaries, so to releave the DDs from some stress agaisnt BB AP. - As i said, i think its better than to make them even more inaccurate. - Can only be done with some compensation. Otherwise BB gameplay would be even more boring. So u say RU Cruisers have already useless torps (since they are only 4km). And then u have things like cyclone so they have to get closer. Even 6km KM Torps are much better than russians. And with the current meta u cant just go in even as a German Cruiser. In the end, yes, but so could a RU Cruiser with potential to be more a threat to BBs rather than spamming HE. Overall, im not sure if Cruisers with 15-20km Torps would be a good thing, thats why i didnt consider other nations for DWTs. 10km DWTs on IJN Cruisers could maybe work out i guess.

Basicly KOTS was only about Cap control, and not about kills really. There were matches where only 1 ship was sunk. So u cant really compare that with Random games. Add to this: The Bismarck was full HP! He didnt really need to do much besides sitting behind me and shoot the BBs while i was tanking all the Time. Would have been nice to switch in between, but Bismarck went retard and Lion was constantly camping behind me (broadside ofc) putting his awesome heal to work... not.

I also like the: - U are a noob, im pro and know everything - said by persons with red PR/WR/avg dmg - Why should i do what u are saying, u are a noob - Just because u said it, I WILL DO THE OPPOSITE. The last one can only be discovered by reactions. Often enough i try to tell my teammates what to do, and suddenly they do the complete opposite. Cant be a coincidence. Like telling everyone to stay together and dont overextend at the beginning when theres a CV in game. Its like "i show u" and BBs rushing in alone to a cap to die in the next 2 minutes.

There is no leader in RANDOMS. Thats why they are random... No, Ranked are just Randoms with rewards in 7vs7 format.

Im kinda confused: Are u disagreeing with me or agreeing? The only point was, that i said they wont punish BBs, kinda what u said too. So i assume u are agreeing

Interesting Could u maybe enlighten me/us then, what it is currently fun for u to play the game the way u (seem) to be playing it? This is not meant as sarcasm, i truely would like to know, since ive been wondering about ppl with similiar stats than yours... I can just about undestand "interesting" but why the hell play Random battles with other ppl when u want to relax? Maybe consider playing Coop then?

We will be playing Operations (only this weeks Narai) tomorrow again also. If u want, and we are on (probably in the afternoon CET), just send a message.

Ye well, they only had 1 DD, got 8k on him, and i think 20k on Cruisers or so... i mean, i had games with less XP while doing more damage and equal amount of plane kills. So it seems to me it does something, but not sure how much.

Who said, tanking doesnt award u with good EXP ? I had a misserable match, the dispersion was all over the place - but not where it was supposed to be I was expecting to be in the lower halfof the scoreboard, but i guess 3,3+ million potential damage saved the game

Id advice u not to do it. U have very limited experience till now - only 265 games in Randoms. You are a liability to your team, especially the higher tiers u go. Play T3-T5, try different lines/classes to learn what u can/cant do. - Your Survivabilty is low - Your avg damage is very low - Your main battery hitratio is pretty low aswell. Im not quite sure what to make of this, are u rushing in and die? The other option is, u stay in the back where u wont hit anything.... Things u need to improve: - Either be less aggessive or more aggressive (not sure which it is) - Try to aim better, shoot broadside targets, u can hit more shells.This will let u deal more damage. - Probably u are showing broadside to the enemies also all the time (i assume) learn about angling.

But the Strafing out change could be regarded as a game mechanic change, they just "forgot" about Saipan Yes, i dont think they will do it, but i also dont think it could be considered as a nerf, since Saipan was never advertised as such, nor did it have the feature in the beginning.

I wouldnt agree on that one. Strafing out didnt exist when they released Saipan. They just chose not to let him lose a Fighter plane for Strafing out. So IMO if they would change it, noone could argue that it would get nerfed.

In the end, it will probably cause things like this: "HEy DD, can u plz spot and Cap?!" " STFU NOOB i have 20km DWTs !!1111" But srsly tho, i think DWTs are totaly retarded. It makes no sense by what WG is trying to achieve -> Punish BBs. Obviously PA-DD DWTs didnt have the desired effect (Stats show too much damage to Cruisers maybe? ), so lets make them even MORE retarded. For me CVs should have DWTs, so a CV cant just nuke DDs out of the water, i think for teamplay balancing it would be better, CV can spot DD but the team needs to handle him. DWTs on DDs shouldnt exist imo.

DDs only receive 0,9x the listed Torpedo damage. But when the section has less HP, it will ofc receive less also. Depends on each ship id say, how much health each section has, as im not sure, if every compartement has a fix % value? I only know that WG sometimes balances those from looking at patchnotes. All 4 parts (citadel is an exception, but since DDs dont have any) have roughly 2 times ships HP, that would mean 40~k for the Fletcher. Maybe each section has like ~10k then?

Can u understand your own sentence? Its not true the way u said it. A ship doesnt need to take hits to all parts of his ship - PERIOD! I never said that damage saturation doesnt exist. Yes ofc it exists, but your statement was simply wrong.

Basicly not true, as long as the ship has a Citadel. So DDs can survive "more" when u only hit the same part of them. But Cruiser/BB/CV can be killed by simply citadelling them to death, no need to hit Bow/stern/Superstructure.

Totaly UP... needs RN super heal aswell

Technically there is nothing wrong when a shell does Overpen + Pen damage, i means its possible. Overpen a part, enter another one and detonate. Double penetration or CItadel + Penetration are ofc totaly broken. Yes, this is pretty questionable. Once BB AP on DDs is "fixed", HE seems to become the must use choice against them (depends how it gets fixed) but u cant have 0 damage pens destroying all modules then. Ive had to shoot a DD in my MIssouri once while HE loaded, and i dd 3600 damage with 6 HE hits... so thats 2 damage worth of pens. He had like 7k health total, so he should have been dead. With Overpens ALWAYS dealing damage, u cant fix BB AP and leave HE as it is. Mostly i agree with what u said, something i dont, but i wont comment on those too much.

True. Thats usually the games i/we lose when we play Division with lately BB/CA. The most crucial part is spotting which neither can provide properly. If i have a DD who wont chicken out against the enemy DD, its usually easy as cake (normaly one of us is a Neptune f.e.). But the second my DD is making a misplay, its over. I try to tell them usually, but hardly ever anyone listens - or they know how to play in the first place, and it works out. F.e. last match i played today, Neptune/Missouri on Haven. We have Maass + Gadjah, enemy has only Gadjah. All DDs are at B, i cover B from the islands. Both our DDs smoke up, sit in B and die. Enemy DD? didnt die because noone was spotting him... thats how u lose the game, but Maass blamed the MM because he was -2 lowtier...

Ah ok Alltho my CV MM rant would have fit tho. But i remembered i used that arguement once, that if u play enough T8 it will eventually make u a better player. Ive had my fair share of T8, so i know the pain

No, u dont need necessarily a CV. But i pretty often play one, depending on the operation (im the other guy mentioned by @ForlornSailor) F.e. Narai this week, i dont rate a CV highly. But last week was Raptor Rescue, i like playing CV in that one. Same for Killer Whale. On Aegis, Defense of Naval Station Newport and Ultimate Frontier i dont play CVs, because i feel other ships are better there.

Almost there: Its WG telling us, play Hosho + Orion and u can club those poor T3 babyseals even harder

Picture says more than 1000 words Obviously 2 T5 CV Divisions are "fail" Divisions nowadays Basicly everyone was baffled at that MM...