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Only TX ships are Special ships - you can check them in port, as they have a different symbol: Premium ships have a yellow ship symbol Special ships have a white ship symbol

Thunderers problem is good accuracy, thermonuclear HE and cruiser ruddershift - change any of those, preferably the HE to make this ship less toxic and braindead to play. Other RN BBs have strong HE with bad dispersion and generally smaller caliber guns. Thunderer has a large caliber and good dispersion, so it doesnt need to have retarded HE. Where is the difference between shooting from 23km or >24km? Doesnt matter. Other BBs operate with less range aswell, and they dont even have such good concealment. Stalingrad? Quite frankly, doesnt even need a nerf any longer. BCs in general need to get access to BoS/FP again. One thing which i always considered to be OP for Stalingrad, is the low fuse armor threshold, thats why it gets so many pens compared to something like Kronshtadt. The radar rework made everything worse anyway, and i wish they wouldnt have done it. "Short duration" longrange radar was a complete meme after that. With modules and skills, Moskva gets 39 sec radar (Stalingrad could aswell right now btw). Even with the nerf, Stalingrad can get 33 sec radar duration.

I totaly agree. And if id have to take a bet, which way they are going, id say its 99% releasing OP premiums and only 1% to properly balance premiums. I guess there are several options on the table: - WG is testing the reaction of the community in regards to nerfing Special ships. Releasing that on april 1st is not an accident in this regard - If community is angry, say its an april fools joke. Or its a joke to begin with - who knows. - If communities response is positive, proceed with the nerf and do additional nerfs later on. Best case, they know what a shitshow FDR is (maybe planned?...) and it will get hit by an insane nerfhammer afterwards. Maybe they dont dare to nerf FDR right away, so they make meaningless nerfs to Stalingrad and Thunderer (and Stalingrad got that 30 sec radar buff with radar rework anyway) first. The entire FDR thing could be a grand scheme: - Make an OP Steel CV, which only handful of people can get. And most of them actually dont like CVs! - Make them spend their steel - Get them to play CVs so they "like" them. Also show it off to other players. - Set precident in nerfing special ships with Thunderer and Stalingrad - Nerf the crap out of FDR.

In theory, having more freedom in balancing premium ship would be a good thing imo. In case they decide to buff a premium ship, they could just do that, and if it turns out to be too strong, then they can nerf it again. That would be a good thing. However one can also make the arguement, that after so many years, WG should know how to balance ships properly. But thats obviously not the case, as we can see for ourselves all the time

https://proships.ru/stat/eu/p/548888426-Spjuvern/ you can see different years. Also you can alter the date in the link to get different periods, f.e. within a year.

If they would really do that, aka release OP ships to get higher sales numbers and then nerf them a few months later, then i would personaly just walk away from this game. No game should be worth to be treated like this. If there are people around, who are willingly throwing money at someone who is just scamming them -> let them do it, but then do it without me.

Stalingrad got an unnecassary radar buff with the radar rework. For all i care, they are just removing that, which it shouldnt have gotten in the first place. As for Thunderer: Im 99% sure, that even before WG introduced Thunderer, they said that Special ships are subject to change. I doubt there is any person playing wows, who would have said "I wont get Stalingrad with 25 sec redar, but i definetely bought it because 30 sec radar" The really sad thing is, that neither of the nerfs changes anything with those ships. So they are just useless nerfs afterall...

Truth is, the secondaries from Massa are exactly the same as before the rework. The ship didnt get changed - a captain skill did. What if WG would have removed captains entirely? If you disagree with what WG is doing, then you simply have to stop spending money. I wouldnt pay 50 bucks for a ship in the first place, but if people do it, then they show WG "everything is fine, just keep doing what you are doing". People can decide for themselves if they buy something. In this case, just dont buy [edited]Flandre. Why does ANYONE need this particular ship? Its not good at anything... well, it cant do anything which any other ship couldnt do either.

Imo its mostly the meta which is unfavourable to Plymouth. BBs hanging too far in the back, while still being able to shoot at you when being spotted, especially by CVs. These should all be Radar mino (2019-2021 - i only played Smoke mino before that) in comparision to recent Plymouth But thats all with division, and while im not always sitting in a DD smoke while playing radar mino, it did happen sometimes. So its not a 100% fair comparision, because Plymouth gets both on its own, while radar Mino needs another player for the smoke. I think Plymouth can be slightly more aggressive at hunting DDs thanks to the smoke. With Mino you need a way out, while plymouth can just smoke up. And its a bit less prone to being citadelled than Mino. Radar mino = free roaming, can also be used as torpboat Plymouth = more stationary like smoke Mino. Torps are not enough to be a serious threat. CVs are a problem for both, but maybe more so to radar mino, as it cant hide at all.

i still wouldnt get FDR... seems to give mixed feelings, some like it, others hate it. Overall, its still a CV, so that alone is enough for me to not get it, because playing CVs is just boring to me. I like to play them occasionally, but thats it. FDR is good at striking slow/fat targets like BBs. That feels extra boring. Austin, seems to have the same issue: Sometimes great, sometimes not. Either love it, or hate it. Plymouth has more utility to me. I guess for a solo player, Plymouth is better, and Austin might be better in a div, especially with a smoke-[edited].

Is Musashi also one of those mysterious CLs that delete everything?

130mm guns with a baserange of 13,8km... max 16,0km Kutuzov is one Cruiser, but i guess thats once again "more than one/all russian CLs" Not to mention you hardly see that thing these days.

So you have no problem giving us the name of that Cruiser?

See, there is the problem, you actually cant. First of all, 3 and 10 games are too small of a sample to mean anything. With 46k/47k damage and 0,615 avg kills in 13 games, you didnt carry anything. You were just swimming along with the team that was better than the enemy team. You didnt do horribly bad, but you also didnt do good either, its just average. I assume your playstyle is fundamentally wrong. You think, Cruisers can sit at an island and win games. Sure, US CLs are not misplayed if you park them at an island in radar range of a cap and spam HE from safety. But i dont know how you are playing BBs, but it seems to me, that you are misplaying them, based on your assessment of Cruisers = OP.

Why dont you show your random battle results with those ships? YOu know, those were you werent carried Also Logic much? So less damage is OP, because reason. Also 0,4 kills means "everything is dead"

So after switching Clans, im only allowed to play with 3 persons in a division... essentially, everyone is allowed to play with everyone, only im not allowed to do the same. So i guess i cant collect division stars anymore https://wows-numbers.com/de/clan/500160856,CHEFT-Yep-Cheft/ Out of 10 people, i can play with 3. @YabbaCoe is there any way to fix this?

I thought that meant worse dispersion?

So if you nerf those, what reason would their be to play that ship? Which essentially would make it the worst TX Cruiser i assume....

Ah, we finaly got rid of all those HE monsters aka Cruisers... farming poor BBabies Ofc more people play DD now, so naturally, people should pick up Cruisers... but instead, BBabies will whine like no tomorrow and demand nerfs for DDs and buffs for BBs!

Getting nuked every 100 games > getting pestered 24/7 in all gamemodes

So in 3 years from now, Thunderer will have 14km range?

What if playing ranked and especially CBs is more fun than playing randoms tho? Steel ships are often not the holy cow people make them out to be anyway. Its people, who dont own the ships proclaiming that they are the most OP thing ever. While they can be strong, they are not necessarily easy to play. As for those 2 "nerfs" they hardly do anything. Thunderer? lol... Stalingrad? who cares, you see that thing from the moon. And doesnt matter if its 25 or 30 secs, stalingrad will shoot twice either way. Only if teammates can also shoot there might be a difference. Not to mention, 30 sec russian radar is just too much anyway.

Well, there is ofc nothing similar for DDs or Cruisers for that matter. But i guess something like a flat out damage reduction for DDs might be on an equal level as improved BB dispersion. Or having a skill that adds plating thickness for a Cruiser. All im saying, that BBs are balanced around having mediocre dispersion, compared to Cruisers atleast. With Deadeye ontop of ASM1/APR2 for us BBs, some are as accurate as Cruisers, while having faster and much bigger shells. So the only downside that remains, is slower reload, which is already offset by having higher alphastrike. Ive had games with 50% hitrate with my Georgia, thats insane. No BB should have such good accuracy.

You only see reports if its more than 1