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Like thats gonna happen, which would result in a better wows... if cruiser would be the go to class, then i think the gameplay would be MUCH MORE fun

man you guys suck... why [edited]nerf it, then buff something else on it, which is mostly irrelevant? How many ppl do actually use all their repair parties, in a Cruiser? And then need one more after that? Can probably count the number on one hand Really need to burn a lot in order to make use of 43540 HP (5 heals + repair flag) - while only having 52k HP to begin with.

https://www.facebook.com/pg/wowsdevblog/posts/?ref=page_internal ST. Balance changes. American cruiser Wichita: Replaced Catapult Fighter for a Spotting Aircraft with the same settings as the one in the cruiser Cleveland. Added the ability to install special upgrades. The change unifies Wichita consumables with that of similar ships. American cruiser Buffalo: Reduced Reload Time MB from 13 to 12 seconds. The ship gets improved combat characteristics, which will increase the comfort of the game when playing the ship. German cruisers Roon and Hindenburg: Increased the number of Repair Party consumable charges from 2 (3) to 3 (4). A greater number of charges of equipment will raise the average life time of ships in battle, however, these changes will be better harnessed when using ships as long-range cruisers and/or played safely. In preparation for testing, the parameters of the Soviet cruiser Lazo were changed: Increased Reload Time MB from 8 to 9 seconds; Changed consumable Spotting Aircraft: Duration reduced from 100 to 60 seconds; Cooldown reduced from 360 s (240 s) to 15 s (10 s); Number of charges increased from 3 (4) to 4 (5). To improve the combat effectiveness of the British destroyer Cossack, the following parameters have been improved: Torpedo tube Reload Time decreased from 96 to 66 s; Increased Rotation Speed MB from 10 to 20 g/s. Turning Circle Radius of battleship Vanguard was fixed and now performs the published 850 m. Please note that the information in the Development Blog is preliminary.

MrConway said, they will release info about that today in the devblog - so maybe we dont need to discuss this anymore. I HOPE they realized how stupid that change is and stopped it. Ofc im against it anyway.

So i can ask for same buff for RN CLs? They are infact as lightly armored as DDs (or even less for that matter) and carrying citadels the size of a DD. A minotaur cant even angle against an Henri - receiving high amounts of Penetrations or even citadels, while a DD can BOUNCE his AP shells! Im sick and tired that Cruisers can get stomped on at every instance, and then getting flamed back and forth because they sit at islands. You think this will change when DDs get better survivability, making Cruisers even MORE juicy to hit for a BB, since the damage he can deal to a DD gets slashed in 1/3 basicly? Im also annoyed by the arguement "oh montana can still deal 15k damage", thats so utterly retarded... because ppl cant move one inch from their perspective, they see or experience it sometimes, that you get devastated by a BB. But that the BB might have had many shots in between that did minimal damage? No that doesnt count ofc. As i said, the problem is not one BB, its because there are 5 literally every game. The problem is, a BB needing 15-30 secs to switch to HE is far too long against a DD, because by that time, he might be already unspotted making HE less viable. So either you use HE more often (which is bad for gameplay anyway), or you will say f*** it, and rather wait for a Cruiser to blap in between. Can always load HE afterwards against DDs and the bow camping BBs, after the Cruisers have been disposed of Cruiser players should probably stop playing, so that we can have world of BBs/DDs, so then BBs get stomped by DDs, WG buffs BBs and nerf DDs so they see what mess they are making with their idiot crap by using Cruisers as a punching ball

Oh so much fun...why even play? Our bogue started his first planes after the enemy CV already did a strike on our DD - which he ofc didnt evade. Zuiho drops one Torp bomber on a Mutsuki and Bam, takes a torp. How do you even do that? And surely our Bogue was fapping two handedly, because CVs doesnt need to do anything right? Then after his hourly fapping session, he thought its smart to engage the enemy CV RIGHT ONTOP ALL OF HIS BBs... Thats what i want to do with players like the Bogue and Mutsuki Looking by team setup, i already knew this was lost, but boy oh boy was that a stomp

Its kinda questionable when you speak of area denial, and in one instance its only 1 ship (BB) and in the other you need 2 (CA+DD) to make your point valid. A BB alone can push into a cap, even when a DD is present. If the BB sits inside the cap, you can only try to kill it as a DD in order to make it go away. Only because you are there, wont stop him from being there. Unlike a BB threatening a Cruiser. If the Cruiser is sitting in the cap, and a BB is advancing, you basicly have to move (only some Cruisers can take the fight). Thats the difference. As far as ive heard, gameplay is so much different on PTS you cant really compare it.

No, ofc you still need luck that the shells hit/penetrate. But if you are angled away from him, not evading, its certainly so much easier. Thats why i said, i cant know for that instance (either if you were dodging or not). But if you were dodging, doesnt that mean that the BB atleast somewhat prediceted your movement in order to hit you? If you were moving away from him, ofc its luck that the shell that hit did hit your ship more at the back, so it has time to detonate inside. If it would hit your bow, even when overmatching, it would probably overpenetrate. Also i think, if the shell is overmatching your armor (i.e. 19mm at lets say 20°), then it will automatically fuse the shell. This means, that if your ship has enough space (for 0,033 secs) then it will detonate inside the ship. An armed shell can still detonate outside your ship, if it was moving too fast or your ship was too small.

Cant know that. Did you evade or only straight lining? If you were constantly evading, id say he aimed well (more so when he used his front turrets only, but then id be speculating). When a DD is going in a straight line you can hit him at max range too, yesterday shot a Harugumo at >19km in my GK, alltho he was fullbroadside, i killed him with 2 overpens. So if you dont evade, then its fully your own fault that you are getting hit.

They arent relevant, because they dont have even close to 100 games. The closest thing i found was 111 games with 29,73% - this is horribly bad ofc. Also you have to look at solo players, because if they play division, they tend do have a lower WR if you put 3 really bad ones together. Someone who has ~40 games at ~20% WR is super bad AND super unlucky at the same time. On the other side: Midway worst WR 135 games 17,78% WR. All solo! And there are dozens more with close to hundred or more games with <30% WR.

I actually believe there will be many players who buy her for real money. The good players spending time in the game to get her 4 free are a minority id guess. Also 228.000 coal is a hefty price, compared to Musashi which is the same tier. Its something all the wallet warriors have been waiting for -> buying higher tier premium ships @NothingButTheRain i also heard that statement, but was made long ago. I think its hard to find it now.

Doesnt exist I wonder how you want to bring your team down to 20% in a Cruiser (reasonable amount of games!), yet CVs actually can achieve <30% easily.

Obviously gimmicks = consumables for you. And also, planes doesnt seem to count. So that means, there are cruisers with only 1 gimmick -> Hydro or DefAA. German/IJN line. Cruisers actually should have DefAA and Hydro available at the same time, the problem with US CLs was, that they gave them Radar too. So they got everything, while the others have 1 or max 2 at the same time. I think it would be fair, if every Cruiser would have 2 of the 3 (defAA/Hydro/Radar available) basicly US CAs/RU CLs/CA have Radar + one of the other. US CLs should have the same option, while IJN/Germans should have both hydro and DefAA. French ofc got the MBRB now, so thats something unique to begin with. And i think running hydro on longrange HE spammers is not really that necessary. I guess outplaying someone is bad too now thesedays? like what? BBs are an area denial tool, since you dont want to go too close to one. Cruisers are less important early game.. only the ones with Radar are, all others get more valuable the longer they live. DDs are always important to have. How is one DD alone be able to stop a BB or Cruiser advancing into a cap? Exactly, he cant. You said the reason yourself -> WASD evades torps. And even IF you hit, you need to kill it right away to stop it from advancing. A lone Cruiser has little chance to attack a BB guarding a Cap, only very few can. Hindenburg can pull it off, but not against every BB. A DD has better chances doing that by torping him, but still...

Shooting over islands, ye thats one reason, but that doesnt work always either. For smoke shooting i dont need it anymore. I use it on Hindi mostly for the range still, because early game + reload mod its easier when the enemy is not following you or even running away.

Looking at it afterwards, i think us going to C was a bad decision (but my first plan was to help at B first, but no enemy DD went there^^). By the time i made it to C, 2 of ours basicly already yoloed into their doom. A push to C would have worked aswell, but our Yamato was rather going for B, because obviously was a retard team

Mostly crap teams Doesnt matter how well you play, when you have DDs ignoring everything and other T10 BBs sitting constantly at 20+km, its basicly impossible to do anything. Blapping some Cruisers last win of the day. Its actually funny how i seem to get good salvos early in the game (2x first blood) but later it gets worse and worse...

I shot DDs all the time today in my GK - yes i got pens aswell, because the DD was fully angled. But that was 1 hit causing 4,1k damage each time. And this is fine, i can only shoot every 26~ secs. Cruisers can shoot 2-4 times in that timespan. After the change i would only deal 1250 damage - which is kinda bad when i hit only 1 shell. Because thats just BB dispersion. The true problem is, that there are 5 BBs constantly. Its the same against Cruisers. A BB might be unlucky and miss your citadel, but one of the other BBs might just get that devstrike. If there would be less BBs, lets say 3, i think it would be fine when BBs could pen on DDs. But what i dont like, is when ppl try to use both arguements, to showcase how poor DDs are: You cant evade BB salvos because of their bad dispersion, but at the same time, they are accurate enough to devastate you. It can only be one or the other. But accnowledging that they are accurate enough to do that, would in terms mean that the BB player aimed well, or you misplayed as a DD - sadly, very few ppl playing WoWs will actually admit that.

Thats what i was asking him. If DDs say, that they get constantly blapped by longrange BB fire, then this means BBs must be super accurate? But at the same time they say, that you cant evade them because they have bad dispersion Somehow this doesnt make sense...

BBs are too accurate so they hit for 20k at 15+km BBs are so inaccurate so you cant dodge them. What is it now ... ? If BBs are very accurate, then its skill that you are getting hit. (or lack thereoff on the DDs end) If BBs arent accurate at all, then you shouldnt take 20k damage at those ranges.

Ahh man, but our team... all of you guys at C and even more from your team, meanwhile ours couldnt even take B And my guns derped hard just before the game ended, backturrets were green but refused to shoot, and my front turrets were commanded by lt. potato did basicly only damage to you 3 Stalingrads, and tried to kill you before you Ram our DM, but got only 1 Cita otherwise was funny to see so many forumites in one game^^

Same here

Just for that, you deserved that angry reaction every bit *shivers in disgust*

As a Cruiser main, i fear BBs the most - can they get nerfed too? there is nothing imbalanced in Cruiser <-> DD interaction, if anything, lowtier Cruisers have a too hard time in countering DDs by themselves.

This just shows how retarded those noobs actually are: First complains about players being too good Then goes on how skill is not rewarded enough and its all about RNG. BBaby [X] Playing 20 games per day is not good for your health [X] Being salty because not being Unicum [X] Statpadder / Sealclubber [X]

oh no, dont misinterpreted, i still am using range mod because 5 BBs is a thing ~~. I just got lucky in that game because there were only 3 BBs But it sure helps to have that heal when you get a match like that, and if you can manage without showing broadside (which you shouldnt need to because of the great reload). I feel that more often its better to have the extra 2+km range than to have a bit better reload.