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You could just search this topic for "LoS Radar" And last but not least: WG said they tried LoS radar and they didnt like it. So its already not an option anymore.

Im playing Narai, because im not interested in randoms (and probably not so much in ranked). Some nice games I think that was my first game with IJN CAs after the buff... feels totaly OP tbh. I died a little early because i was so fast slaughtering the enemies, and so i was alone down south in the harbour^^ Other achievements today: Spent 500k FreeXP / 55 million credits for various ships (Worcester, Iowa, Monarch, Lyon and Myoko) from the FreeXP i got back from my CVs. Did it because of the free captain retraining.

Sell it through the inventory, and you will get doubloons.

The "problem" is, i dont need the secondaries really. Ill get rid of the priority targets before that. And ofc playing in divisions, its better to focus on specific traits rather than to make an allrounder build. Lately you get rid of DDs/Cruisers, the enemy BBs will just run away as they dont have a DD infront of them, which makes secondaries litereally useless. Last 3 weeks, our GK damage output is basicly the same, while i actually manage more kills. So your build works for you, and mine works for me. But i was having a useless build, manual secondaries/AFT which were mostly useless. I was more vulnerable to fires, which sometimes could be problematic. I expect to have less issues with fires, as i ditched them and got FP/BoS instead.

Ive been told by DD players several times how little damage DD do on average so i dont think a DD is the best tool for "doing damage/sinking". And you need spotting for? If there are 2 or even 3 CVs in the game, they spot the entire enemy fleet 1 minute into the game, aka still in their spawn. To keep proper balance, you would need a fleet of 10 (just throwing out numbers here) DDs so that some of them can do what they want aka cap and spot.

Actually, he is right. I think WGs initial plan was, CVs can spot the DD, and then his teammates kill that DD. Maybe CVs shouldnt have devstriked DDs, but it was possible with RTS CVs. Now however, CV will permaspot the DD and wither him slowly to death. CVs were a niche class, so noone was countering DDs -> Radar was introduced for Cruisers. Cruisers itself cant counter DDs. (btw, Cruisers are supposed to counter CVs aswell). If the DD wont let you spot him, how should you ever do it if your concealment is 5-7km worse than his?

The problem i realized rather quickly with Secondary GK is, that targets, which are a threat to me (HE spamming Cruisers behind Islands), cant get hurt by Secondaries, simply because you cant lob the shells. But you can shoot your mainguns from a proper position (outside of secondary range). If you rely on your mainguns, you will kill those targets much faster. With the free respec, i went full tank-build on my GK. I barely used my secondaries in my last dozen battles anyway. Everyone is just running away most of the time. And the more damage i can absorb / deal damage with my mainguns, the better it is for my team.

Well, thats true for now. I dont see CVs being played that much when the initial hype is over...

I think its funny that only a small part of the playerbase seem to think that way. Ive seen so many "Cruisers are getting a buff" because BBs are getting nerfed more That just doesnt make sense, because DDs spot Cruisers, not BBs. Thats something i never really considered when we have/had BBs with better concealment than Cruisers - for me its just a matter of principle, that Cruisers shouldnt have worse concealment than BBs simply because they are higher, which determines the concealment in wows. The cruiser is still more vulnerable than the BB. It rarely does matter if a BB can outspot a Cruiser, and when it does, its horribly wrong.

Actually, i did take IFHE on some ships before CE... like shchors and new Cleveland when it was released. I felt being more useful when i can deal damage compared to being able to deal no damage. But i wouldnt play hightiers for long without CE. I think Shchors could work without CE, as its T7. When you play vs T5 it doesnt really matter imo. But f.e. a Seattle without CE? Nope, wouldnt do it. Same for hightier BBs. The concealment is just attrocious without CE. I wouldnt want to play BBs with 15-16km concealment. Afterall, what should i be taking instead? Potentially there are options, yes, but imo they are even less viable than going for CE. Most arguements against CE are: you are spotted anyway because of the high amount of CVs. Ok so what else can you go for then? FP is imo no option, as you can go for a tank build with BoS/FP/CE = 11 skill + the usual stuff (SI/AR/PT = 6 pts) so you have 17 pts, or 19 with EM. If you go for Secondary build, will you ever get to use those secondaries if you are spotted from the moon? Dont think so. Either they run away (because you are still a BB, and BB guns hurt) or they will focus you down. So if you ditch CE, and dont go for a secondary build (which most BBs arent suited for anyway) then you basicly can go for... AFT. Because better AA. Well... as long as CVs are around in every game, it might be somewhat useful (but again, you being spotted all the time will make it easer for Cruisers shelling you). Or you take BFT + some other 1pt skill... Personaly, i dont value those skills higher than CE.

Free XP any other line you want? I have almost 2 million aswell now, 1 million ill keep for Alaska. The rest im not sure yet either. Maybe ill skip some ships which i dont want to play...

Thats basicly my only hope. Bad players will remain so bad that they only get like 20k damage (with RTS CVs even bad players got more damage than that), and for all others it will be so uninteresting and lame that they will just quit playing CVs. But then again... maybe they dont care as they didnt care with RTS CVs either. So im sceptical about that.

Shouldnt it get worse for DDs tho, if its already bad?

Just faceroll the enemies with Musashi Just went out vs the 2 Musashis, then i started making the Yugumo mad by dodging couple of torp volleys He got one hit with hist 3rd try tho...

Maybe its just the difference in CV players: - Glue licker flies in straight line -> planes die - Good player evades flak bursts, doesnt lose planes. - ... - Profit?

Oh ye, you are right. Must have looked when ship is on fire which is 16,7 and remembered wrong, or something like that

ill still take it on all BBs... I really cant see myself losing another 2km concealment (like GK was 13,6, without CE its 15,9 and with CE 14,7...) What do you take instead of CE? AFT? cant see myself using that. And lets face it, BBs which have good concealment before will still have decent concealment even getting only 10% bonus (like Missouri f.e.)

I sold them all... i dont think they are worth it in the 6th slot tbh. I rather take reload or if necessary range.

Some modules were removed, like the AA mod 2 in slot 3. These modules are in the 6th slot now. So you have to put something new into slot 3 if you had the AA mod previously installed.

Played one midway game in Coop (my first new CV game).. we had 2 CVs and 4 bots... and we lost. Personaly i think i didnt even was that bad, took me some time to get the hang of it, at the end i was more confident. Rockets are very easy, DBs were the weirdest for me, couldnt really hit much. TBs are ok after i got the hang of it. I couldnt get Fires/Floods, so i had no chance killing the full HP BBs in time, and my Haku just yoloed in instead of helping me...

I dont have to Havent played anything, but they all show up in the inventory.

You have to do it in the Inventory.

Imagine 30% slower shells with North Carolina... will be like throwing rocks across the map

3 Belle epoque container?

Ok what!? I seriously feel like [edited]trolled right now, or i start to question who is the stupid one here. If noone would detect that BB in the first place, if that island is big enough, he might aswell STEALTHSHOOT from behind that tiny island! (Tiny islands usually have the downside that you can SHOOT OVER THEM...)That is also due to one of your own changes, when you made detection range = max shooting range. This wasnt an issue when BBs had detection range worse than their own shooting range after firing their mainguns. And btw, this would only be an issue when the BB is spotting for himself... ye right. Even if, you can blame yourself by having BBs with better detection than Cruisers Did i mention BBs have shorter gunbloom than their reload time? If that would be so bad, then make it atleast 30 secs for BBs. Its kinda funny to have a Republique blinking at the time he is shooting A mechanic which allows gameplays for Cruisers and DDs, WG turns it around and says it would be a BUFF TO BBs... just wowow... ive seen it all, really Just make world of battlebabies and all others can move along. Im so pissed at WG right now... i dont want to [edited]play wows anymore, well done Sekret Video from WG office: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz-PtEJEaqY