DFens_666

Yep, i agree. CVs arent balanced - AA isnt balanced: So randoms are crap Ranked is crap because ranked + arms race in one Half of Operations are gone Detection mechanic changed after firing main guns = crap CE nerfed = crap All in all seems pretty garbage to me

I think the initial thoughts about using F were quite simple: Since you cant controle your CV when flying planes (or only through auto pilot) it should be emergency recall in case you get attacked so that you can maneuver your CV manually. Atleast thats what im thinking. If you remove F, and the CV is under attack, then he basicly first has to drop all his loads somewhere, which will probably still take like 15? secs or so. I presume CV sniping will be a thing then

Press F come back in xx seconds. Def AA is totaly useless right now, against players who know how to abuse new CVs.

I think you have to ask those players who say "CVs are too weak". They are the ones dieing to AA. Good CV players dont die to AA becauey they dodge it or press "F". Thats why, AA cant be balanced anymore. Its too punishing for bad players, but not punishing enough for good players. You would have to make it so strong that it will kill any plane instantly Or quite frankly, the only way to balance it, would be to remove flak bursts and make it DPS only. Then you could atleast work with the AA values you got, and you could calculate if skilling for AA is worth it. At the same time, it would be more balanced regardless of the CV players skill.

Nah, its like those people who say "you HAVE to adapt to new CVs" like someone or something is forcing you to play. Quitting doesnt seem to be an option for many wows players

Not sure if they announced it on the mainpage, i got it from here:

WG playing their own game? Never felt like it... atleast when considering the decisions they made/make Or they are horrendously bad at it, then it would make sense 2nd part: Making CVs more popular Guess one could call that a success, if it means removing all other classes in the process Seeing what they did, clearly your mentioned reasons were blatant lies...

We will get a 2nd free reskill for 1 week in ~2 months, when 0.8.2 goes live.

" Our Data showed, rockets are mostly ineffective against heavily armored targets. Due to that, IFHE works now on Rockets aswell" WGs first possible "fix" for CVs

No, your point has been brought up several times when a ranked season is live. Did anything change? Nope... so you can keep trying to write here in the forums, WG can wipe their [edited]with it Doesnt matter that you are right (i feel the same way), but WG obviously doesnt see it that way. There is nothing competetive about ranked. Noone is forbidden to play it. Someone who has 40% WR in randoms can just play ranked.

WG wont tell us. If they will remove a ship, they will get us headsup notice. But Flint and Black have been around much longer, so i dont think anyone can really tell or be sure in the slighest. I think people are mistaken when they think Stalingrad is the ultimate FUN ship to play with. Why else play something in the long run unless its fun to play? Im not sure if many Kronshtadt owners will keep playing her in the long run either. Actually i have been saying that like a month ago, my thinking is: Wichita might replace Flint Neustrashimy might replace Black Azuma might replace Stalin ? for Bourgogne. But Bourgogne is only available for so long, so i dont think it will be removed soon anyway. Also im not really sure in which timeframe they might replace those ships anyway. If they start replacing them, might start with Flint and it will take a year or so to replace the others.

You mean <1200 PR; because > means "greater than" Apart from that: What gave it away? That the same idiots that infest randoms with their crap can play ranked just by switching from Random battle to ranked battle.

1. They just nerfed Concealment for all ships except DDs (!!!) 2. Sure that will help... not? Because noobs get slaughtered by AA right now. And Unicums kill everything in their path with this AA, so there is no tweaking. The only way would be stronger AA, which would make CVs even less desirable for average players. 3. ? 4. hehe you see the video from ICG? Blob up more = more torphits! If a ship is by itself, murder it directly. 5. Any 2 ships can kill a CV faster... well RN CLs probably not when the CV is angled kiting.

To WG: Its wrong on so many levels. I dont even want to invest time on this subject anymore... let WG figure it out by themselves - which they probably cant do anymore.

Thats just sick.... Atleast they did it now: Year of the CV Or: How to kill World of Warships. I mean, the only thing which they can do is REWORK THE REWORK. You cant FIX this. Its beyond easy fixes. Everything is messed up, personaly i wouldnt know where to start. I know like dozens of things which need to be changed, and i havent even played at all really, only watching YT vids and streams from this shitshow. I thought RN CVs will be OP (seeing what Flamu do with those), Haku is 10x more OP with a tactic like that. [X] remove CVs, nothing else will help.

1. Most important, you have to get Concealment Expert ASAP! Enemy DDs outspot you by 1km easily, 1,5km if you encounter the wrong one (T5 IJN or lets say a Cossack, the latter will slaughter you, even with CE its hard against one). 2. Dont necessarily shoot your guns right away. On midtiers you often see enemy DDs firing right away at you, that makes it much easier! You can spot him, while being unspotted yourself. Atleast when you have CE it will work, turn away and hope your teammates are shooting him. 3. Use atleast Premium DCP. If you can afford it, use all premium consumables. 4. Work with your concealment, even if its bad with 7,1 now. The time you torp the Myoko. You follow your torps and detect yourself because you are getting too close! He shoots you, and resets the cap ontop of that. You would have almost capped, so it cost you 1 minute. 5. Watch your minimap more often rather than your torpedoes. Soon after the Myoko, B was getting capped (you were behind the island south of B). Your T-22 is fighting the enemy DD, while you ignore it. You should have turned towards B, and fight the DD together. You would have both survived, and killed the enemy DD. You could have smoked up actually and negate the damage from the CV at the same time). You are lucky your CV killed the enemy DD. But this kinda misplay will make you lose games. Look for opportunities like that to fight enemy DDs, especially with IJN DDs. And a general advice: If you can, try to shoot DDs when you are moving behind an island, so that you are not detected afterwards. You want to hurt the enemy DD as much without trading your own health for it. 6. When you approach A, you take too long not getting into the cap. There is no reason to not get the cap. 7. Im not sure if it was useful to follow the BBs in the end. CVs would have dealt with him either way. Ofc you got a bit more damage by hitting a torp. On the other hand, im not sure if going for the enemy CVs would have been smart either If they know, that you are on to them, they can just attack you within 10 secs basicly... But probably could have tried, i think this was a win either way, and by following the "dead" BBs, you couldnt get back to the CVs in time. But here we are only talking about dealing more damage, nothing game deciding really.

Psssh, i had like 140k combined on my Hosho and Langley

Good to know Would you say, skilling for AA on hightier ships (Worc/Mino/Salem f.e.) is worth it against an Unicum CV player who can dodge flak bursts? Im not really interested in playing randoms right now, and im leaving my captains unskilled basicly, or just the standard 10/14pt build and might skill them later when i want to play those ships.

Lets clarify once again: You are talking about refunding them through the Inventory, correct? Then yes, you can use the XP on the T4 CV to research the T6 CV, IF you have XP on the CV right now. When you sell your T6-8-10 CVs, their XP gets transferred to Erie or Hashidate. Ill showcase with an Example: Langley 105.000 XP Ranger 80.000 XP Lexington 125.000 XP Midway 210.000 XP If you sell Midway, Lexington and Ranger, all the XP (80k+125k+210k) will be transferred to Erie, and Erie will have 415.000 XP afterwards. After you sold them, you want to re-research Ranger, which you can do, because the Langley has 105k XP, from which you need ~70k or so. The new Ranger will have 0 XP. If you have lots of XP on Lexington, id only sell Midway and research Midway with the XP from the Lexington.

Well, after reading all the posts, i certainly am not sure anymore what @ASharpPencil meant. I just concluded from his last sentence that he want to refund them through the inventory. Anyway, both scenarios should be covered, so he should know what will happen in his event

No, when you sell the CV, its XP are getting transferred to the T1 ship of that Nation. If you are not selling all CVs however, you can use the XP from the previous to research the higher one, thats what i did. Selling the T4 CVs didnt make much sense to me, but i had >60k XP on both of em. I sold all higher ones. I got 99k FreeXP back from my T6 CV, then used the normal XP from my T4 CVs to research the T6 CVs again.

Obviously you like the idea more that the CV is not spotting at all for his teammates, since you targeted Forlornsailors idea, but not the one from the threadopener? Certainly not spotting anything (including DDs), is better than hardly spotting DDs, but everything else normaly DDs seem to be hardly playable at all (from what i hear and see in streams, ill stay away from randoms in the meantime), considering the way you should play them. Spotting is mostly not needed, the CV(s) can do it. One leaves a bit room for spotting, but 2 or even 3 is making DD spotting pretty much obsolete. So we are left with capping... yep, DD going alone into the Cap will attract the CV on his location. Isolated DD can just get raped by CVs, while being permaspotted ontop. Attacking the other ships 1 min into the game can hardly work, as they are very close together, so it only leaves DDs as targets which were moving towards caps. Btw, how is playing the DD Hakuryu working out for you Traditional DDs dont seem to be working too good i suppose

CV sniping the enemy CV...? Coop ofc, so there is no CV. And Lyon, not sure what he was up to. CV and lyon took the last places in the XP table, i think CV was worse than all bots aswell. And here you see why he was so bad: You see from the markers where he dropped the Torps, LITERALLY ontop of the Colorado... they havent even armed yet.

I thought about the same... but then the CV is basicly playing on his own even more. Literally no use in a teamgame anymore, as he provides almost no help for his team. (even AA cover is very limited). Its just that the whole concept is wrong now. With 2 CVs/side, the whole team is detected basicly 1 minute into the game. Maybe planes should be MUCH slower, and when they are under AA fire, it enables a speedboost so they can make a fast attackrun (otherwise no speedboost). If planes are slow when they are moving around the map, then spotting is less of an issue.

T5,7,9 CVs automatically got sold as they were removed... you got FreeXP from them. Then be happy