DFens_666

This is actually a good point, and id like to add, that in a mechanic, were one side has no skill influence, it would be fair if the other side would have the same treatment. That would basicly mean like autodrop only like in old RTS CVs. Basicly you would need to have "guided missiles" aka the planes, where you click and want them to attack. Then its out of your hands and down to the AI doing the drop. This would be similiar to shells, because i click where i want them to be, and then RNG decides how good my salvo is.

If that happens, report them to WG. Send them screenshots and/or better the replay from the game. They can investigate if they deliberately did it. Then they will probably get a ban for a week or something like that. Occasionally, same clan player get into one match by accident. Happens to big clans, happened to us lately aswell. Was completely unintentional. But we were busy fighting each other all game long, because its kinda fun to shoot your clanmates

Many things were supposed to happen... which didnt happen really ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Chances are, with any other class he would have been dead several times waaay before the Alabama hat 3k HP left They just think: ah 3k HP ship, i would have killed that with any other class, and they think nothing else would have been different in that game if they would have played some other ship...

Havent experienced anything unusual, except Cleveland still has no gun sounds

Wouldnt you prove us right then? edit Put it plain and simple: - CVs arent UP because there are people who do so well in them, that they achieve results which have never been seen before, even by the best players. Also CVs a new class, thus you have to learn to play them first (why this is so hard to understand by many people is beyond me tho) - Ships arent Immune to being attacked by a CV, because even the strongest AA ships can be attacked - CVs are unfun to play, because thats what they did with the rework. this is subjective to everyone ofc, but in general i believe this to be true, because the only purpose of a damage dealing class is to deal damage all the time, especially in a highspeed plane which is otherwise utterly boring to fly around - Other classes are unfun because [edited] ruin the game by playing like well... [edited] (DDs are unfun because they cant play like DDs anymore, they are mini Cruisers, thus playing a real Cruiser makes more sense)

I just told you: That got changed. (Mino AA range 6,9 / air detection 6,9) And that is actually what you are saying: Dumbing down the game. Pressing P in a BB or a Cruiser has no value after the change. There is no reason to press P - EVER. Well... only for RN CLs sitting in smoke, so they cant get dropped by CV seeing the Tracers. Other than that, P button is totaly useless for Cruisers now.

Like really? Im not sure how he has sub 50% WR, when he has 53,85 % 80 % 50 % 100 % 50 % 0 % (1game) in new CVs. While with old CVs he had 3 out of 4 with <50% WR. Thats why overall his CV WR is <50%, not because of the new CVs. His New CV WR is 62,31% You really leave no low-punch out in "argueing" anymore, thats really shameful. No respect for that.

So CVs cant check the line-up before a match starts? Flying into a smokecloud regardless if there is a Mino in the game? CVs are clearly the class which needs to be dumbed down and shouldnt care about what ships he is facing.... to the 2nd part: That get changed for all others but DDs. AA range = air detection. @ OP What a freaking joke... Multiple CVs get a buff = (one) CVS GET NERFED

Agree, i dislike the new shards... nothing was wrong with the old one.

Well, that is ofc intentional, since we are talking about a f2p game here. In order to play the "best" ships in the game, you should spend money some way or the other. Premium time, Premium ships, convert doubloons... Only the very best players can maintain a positive income on T10 all the time. And even then it wont get you as much as playing a T9 premium, but you wont lose anything. If you dont want to spent money, then you have to invest more time to be able to enjoy T10 if you arent that good... guess thats understandable from a business pov. On the other hand: Noone should feel the need to play T10 just because its the highest tier. Midtiers are much fun too, and thats what it should be about.

I didnt say that i can produce these damage numbers. Maybe i can, maybe i dont. But from actual stats i can see: there are players who are able to deal that kinda damage. And more will come, because more will become better with them. And for the other classes: I have to disagree. Why do players with several thousand battles in one class have to "git gud"? Their class didnt change at all. Only the meta basicly. And with that, i still think you are missing the point: Nobody has to adapt and l2p or git gud. If the GAME is not fun, simply leave it and do something else. Noone is forced to play wows. Many players are unhappy, ive seen it all around me. Doesnt matter that they could adapt, they certainly have the ability to do it. The difference is, that they chose not to, and rather stop playing, because adapting to it means, having no fun while playing. It cant be the goal of the rework to have as much unhappy players around as possible. CVs are still the niche class. They have to take the backseat for the other classes, because having unhappy CV players are way less customers, than having one or more of the other classes being unhappy. Ofc WG is to blame for releasing the CVs in that state.

It only matters, when you cant maintain a full strike force at any given time. This happened all the time for RTS CVs on low-midtiers. Noone did care back then? I wonder why... Have seen it several times that some CV players managed to be deplaned 5 mins into the game This doesnt even happen anymore, as you can regenerate planes. You might not get 100% strike force back, but you have atleast something to strike with. So if you can maintain your planes, it doesnt matter if you would lose 1 million planes, as long as you would still be able to launch another full squad. Btw the analogy to shells getting shot out of the air is... questionable? I think you try to argue that CVs are bad, only because you feel that they are unfun to play. Well, from the recent stats i can see on some players, thats simply not true. Midway seems to be even better than before. I would agree with you, that the new gameplay is boring - just because everyone can have their personal opinion about that. But it doesnt make them a useless or underpowered... I think that would actually fit many CV players right now. But they dont wanna, because its no fun for them

TBH, does it matter? If i could decide: Lose one of my turrets and win the game with that, then id certainly want to lose my turret with my ship Technically not even the same, as i cant regenerate my turret like planes can. As long as the CV itself is alive, it has the possibility to do something. Even if its getting into an empty cap or squeeze the last planes out and spot something in the process. I really think you dont see the big picture, and you are focusing too much on the CVs pov. Thats kinda the issue for me atleast: CV players feel it unfun to play CVs (for certain reasons) and at the same time, the other classes are effected and have less fun, but the CVs cant "see" that, because they dont have fun themselves

Sacrificing planes is however not the same as sacrificing your ship. If i could respawn my Minotaur a couple of times, then it would be the same Who can stealth Radar currently? Chapa, Edinburgh and Minotaur i think?

Ok, nvm then... i wasnt sure which way you were going with your post Could have meant both^^ I myself have had a flood on Musashi which i didnt repair because of the fear of getting more floods/Fires at that point.

Removing that from all classes would make DDs much stronger you know? And you are kinda argueing that DDs are already OP so... not sure where you are going with this As it is right now: Situational awareness can help the CV vs AA Cruisers too. If you are spotted, and you kinda expect a Cruiser to be there, you pretty much are able to guess where he is and dont fly into his AA. But with tomorrows Hotfix, flying into AA is not so much a thing anymore, as the ship will be spotted at the same time, and not while you are already in his AA range.

He didnt missplay... I was just saying, that i wasnt immune to being attacked from him. And if one of the strongest AA Cruisers in the game can be attacked, so can all others aswell. If being immune means getting chipped damage in, then his CV as a ship itself is equally immune to my shells. (worcester i mean ofc)

Well, i can somewhat "proof" that i shot down 20 planes: https://wows-numbers.com/de/player/540423429,DFens_666/progress,2019-02-26/ should be the 24-25.02 with 2 Worcester losses, 10 avg plane kills and in the other game i didnt shoot down one plane. And infact, he did strike me even more often. In the end i had to rush another worcester because we were losing anyway, CV did drop me once more (which i couldnt focus my attention to when knife-fighting another Worcester at 8km and a BB in the flank. But as i said, when the 3rd strike in the cap game, my Henri was already there aswell, so probably he got some of those planes. And im just saying, that i was not immune. (nor did i say that i should be). And he did drop his AP Bombs on me - but missed. Thats on him. If he would have hit properly, he could have dealt SERIOUS damage to me. And also im fine that he lost planes, that he delayed my cap. Thats not the point tho. The point was: He could do it. I wasnt immune to his strikes. He did suffer plane losses in return. Seems fine, so AA Cruisers are not the immune monster that people make them out to be. At this point we are talking about the meaning of "immune". Immune means, i cant be touched - ever. Btw it was a Midway, i guess i confused the AP Bombs with normal HE bombs Cant take you up on that training room, as i dont have Midway (scrapped it to get the FreeXP back ) Actually, strike that again, i continued to think about it, it was a 2 CV game. They had Midway and shokaku... so the Shokaku was coming with AP Bombs. I think they all died when they were attacking me tho. But he still fucked up the one Drop he managed through. Lets face it, the Midway itself is much more immune to a Worcester than the other way. Try shooting one at longrange and see 80%+ shatter because of armored deck. And lets not forget insta DCP usage, active for 1 minute so i cant even get fires While running away from me as fast as im myself. Talking about Immunity... This post got kinda messy, here the key points: - They had 2 CVs, Midway and Shokaku. - Midway attacked me with Rockets, and got through. - Shokaku attacked me with DBs, missed or died in the process. - Then Midway came again but couldnt because of the help of the Henri. - In the end, i tried to shoot the Midway, got only shatters at 14+km, 1 fire which instantly got DCPed. - While i was engaged with the Worcester, the Midway got one more strike in. Should have taken screenshots to see how much damage i reveiced...

Basicly every Cruiser will die to 4 torp hits. (lets exclude some low damage torps like Sims f.e.) And then you cant deal enough floding damage regardless AND he needs to have DCP on CD. You just strengthened his positions, because that makes it even less likely to get a Liquidator. The BB would die to sheer alpha damage from Torps, since Floodings can be ignored under certain circumstances. And there are usually more than one DD shooting that target anway

Not when i see the average playerbase ~~ they would be better off playing premium ships on T6 (for themselves and for their teammates aswell )

You need a dedicated captain for that silver ship. For a premium ship, you can use whatever captain you feel like (preferably even a 19 pointer to farm elite commander XP). Also cant quite tell which ships are weaker than the silver ships And WG will add 50 premium ships puchaseable with doubloons to the Arsenal with the next patch afaik. So then it wont matter anymore i guess.

Its already from last patch so doesnt work anymore (and i think with the patch it got deleted anyway thx to WG ~~) Think i shot down 20 planes. The problem is, i was useless too long, and the enemies did win in the end. But we needed the cap. So it doesnt matter if he did a little bit damage (and btw, rockets DO hurt a CL, that he effed up the AP DBs is on him), he still contributed to the victory of his team. I didnt need to be killed in order for them to win. Stopping me from doing my job was enough for a victory. That is not being immune. If i would have been immune, i would have had a better chance to turn the game, because it was close in the end.

Noone is really immune from what ive seen. Took me 3 mins to get a Cap in Worcester, because the CV just kept coming. And he managed to get strikes through despite reinforced secter and even DefAA! I tried to prevent getting resetted by using defAA against his rockets - didnt work, he got one through. Then he came with AP DBs, which he fucked up but still resetted me. But at this time, i didnt have DefAA available ofc, so it was even easier. Then he tried for a 3rd strike, luckily my Henri came to the cap aswell so we finaly did get the cap. I call utter BS on being Immune to CV strikes. Immunity means: He can never touch you. Truth is, he very well can, and that what @who_dares_wins was saying aswell, he might lose most of his planes.

Doesnt make it more enjoyable tho... You dont gain anything really from playing T10 (only). On the contrary, its even harder to maintain your income without using any real money in the process.