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Your personal stats cant be incorrect They are tracked after every game by WG. If a player chooses to hide his stats, then they ofc also dont show up in the average ship stats. But if you think, that bad players hide their stats, then it would only mean, that average stats would even be worse than they are now. Ofc WG themselves have all stats and they show them occasionally to us aswell (most recently T9 average Cruiser damage f.e.). You could check the difference between WGs own database and the other ones.

A little offtopic: Do you feel that you have to wait longer to be matched against a clan this season than before? Atleast for us it feels, that it takes a bit longer than it used to. Might indicate, that less clans are playing this season... Do the same pretty much

yeah 6vs6 with Enterprise sounds like a lot of fun @El2aZeR could first TK his own team, then kill all others afterwards Thats the point (kinda)! Then i would just not play. The other CB seasons i had more fun than playing randoms. But this is just frustrating really, because its mostly "do it aswell or lose". Lets just say: 5 DD setups is really pissing off people, and thats also why i dont like it. Yeah, we encountered it, and i dont see any possibility to win it with the setup we had. So we tried it ourselves aswell, and you could feel the frustration on the other side, they just wrote GG at the start of the game.

I dont think thats the right question: Even a team of several ships cant do much against a russian BB, even if its outnumbered. Recently had 2 million potential in Pyotr which is quite rediculous imo. You can hardly dislodge a russian BB without torps.

I mean yeah, RU BBs are part of the problem, but the "easy" fix is, to just field your own Russian Bias. Then the better team should win more often too. But against those DD setups? The Cruisers cant just keep up with it, unless its a Bayard, then maybe. 4 DDs shooting 1 Cruiser at 10km and it basicly cant shatter their shells. Put the RU BB ontop of it... sucks the fun out of you Ive seen more and more of those DD setups today, literally everyone was 3-5 DDs and 2 teams had multi Bayard setup. And maybe 2 clans with 1 DD IIRC.

Actually, i think the dates might be wrong. 3 Gamescom camo is for stage 2, stage 3 doesnt seem to be active - atleast i dont have it on my missions tab either. I do have stage 2 tho. Must be an error with the date, or they didnt active the mission properly. WGs fault id say

It also didnt show mission progress in the Victory screen. Is the mission gone or is it still there? I suppose you didnt get the GC19 flag either?

"High" average damage? I feel being insulted by the game, having 3x the Hindenburg damage but only 15% more WR

If you dont like Bismarck, its pretty safe to assume that you wont like FDG either. And IMO, Amagi is worse than Nagato. So you can guess if you like it depending how much you like Nagato I think Nagato is very good, but Amagi is pos

There are a lot of paper ships in this game

Ignore those stat comparision pre-battle. They are totaly useless. 6,6km in your Kitakaze is bad compared to other DDs. Yugumo detection should be 5,5 at best with Concealment module, Concealment expert and Camo. 7km is base value (with Camo i believe), but doesnt include CE and the module.

FTFY

Thats why, good clans like OMNI run 4 DD setup now. short duration radar, most Cruisers have no heal and rather low DPM. Akizukis can eat Cruisers for lunch And torps are best way to deal with russian bias Vladi and Lenin, which are super powerful vs Cruisers. Compared to TX where it hardly works. But kinda shows the stats on T8 nowadays

I fully concur I had an Aoba, full broadside for several salvos (5-6 IIRC) in my Pyotr... clear hits to the citadel = Overpens. Everytime i get this, i already call to my division "Thats a noob or a genuine newbie". Havent failed yet. Aoba had like 300~ games. Same day i had an Aoba from a good Clan (forgot which one) i was like, oh finaly something i can citadel. Yes, he made it harder for me with dodging and stuff, but i citadelled him through the [edited] I could probably recall dozens of such incidents. Really feals like, if you are a retard, you have no Citadel

I agree with you. But im not sure if WG would have that goal to make 2 or more seperate game modes (also they wrote "initially", so they intend to put them into randoms/all other game modes aswell). Ofc WG wants to get money from subs, and if you make them have their own gamemode, im not sure if they can get enough money out of it. If people want to play PvP, and some are interested in CVs/Subs while others are not, you basicly get 2 parts from the playerbase who wont be playing with one another anymore. And i dont think thats possible with the 15-25k playerbase online on average.

Be honest, do you expect anything else? Will be the final piece which makes me quit the game for good.

Byebye WoWs... was fun while it lasted... sometimes atleast Can only hope they need a few years to get them into randoms For sure they wont be getting it right anyway

TBH thats not what im seeing. Yes, can be true for the losing side, when backline campers survive the longest and manage to chunk someone who maybe doesnt even care anymore because the game is won already. But for winning team? I usually see the ones making a play being infront. Here is really a prime example. Those 4 ships i marked, they sat all in the back. Reversing literally all the time. The Stalin DCPed every single fire, then didnt shoot till his DCP was backup again While the Khaba actually tried to do something, but couldnt because his big gun teammates sat on one spot far away from the objectives. As for the other DDs? My div Z couldnt do too much, because he was on the flank with the spawn campers. Grozovoi got beaten by the Khaba, then ran away. Even tho i tried to help him, and i told him, Khaba was weak after i smacked it for like 15k. Enemy Gearing lost half his health to me at the start, as it went cocky into C cap. Then ate a torp from our Z

I would just stop playing for a week I dont like it, because usually one team goes full retard (yes, even more than usual), often enough its my own Maybe 1-2 times i had an enjoyable game on it.

It was never built. Only because they have the same name, doesnt mean its the same ship

Once had to push a Benham in my GK ... ... because our Fletcher said, i only play for myself, so he doesnt help his team anymore. What a great logic that is, people have no problem these days, blaming others for something and then doing the exact same stuff I only took 3 out of 56 torps btw Community: We like to keep the bugged spotting change WG: We listen to you, we will implement it with 0.8.4 the latest Reality: About to get 0.8.7 WG: Its not our priority Not sure if Cruisers should be able to Citadel BBs in general. I think it would make gameplay even worse

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirov-class_cruiser

I dont understand the problem. BBs farming damage only on other BBs? Can be a problem ofc, BBs should also shoot DDs and certainly focus Cruisers first. But it doesnt work all the time. I had a ranked game today in Musashi, where i did 240k damage, but i couldnt shoot the 2 DDs. They just sat behind islands all game long. And our 2nd DD didnt do anything expect run clueless around on the map. Our Buffalo also didnt support our Black (who tried his best to get rid of the DDs). I simply couldnt do anything. I parked myself at ~12km from the DDs so their torps couldnt reach me. Trying to keep the other BBs in check, dislodged the Missouri sitting at the Cap waiting to radar. Luckily, the enemy neptune also tried to farm me and not help his DDs. So in the end, i basicly solo killed the enemy Musashi and missouri (both >100% of their base HP) and another 40k on their Neptune, while tanking 2,6 million aswell. The problem is never the class, its the people PLAYING those classes. BBs can be stupid - so can be Cruisers and DDs. But you should never reflect previous losses on your future teammates, thats when you start to be a noob yourself. (ofc if you know someone to be a bad player who does stupid stuff, then you should play around that)

Im also not quite sure where this topic is going, but ill just write how i felt with the german BBs. However note at first, that i played Gneisenau and Bismarck back when the Meta was potentially a bit more in their favour. Gneisenau: Not a bad ship, has its strengths when toptier. But only 6 guns which can be annoying at times. If you play it right, you can do some damage in T9 MM aswell. The most crucial part is to get the right moment when to push, as for every german BB really. I had a semi secondary build back then, but my captain wasnt that high, so i never had a full secondary Gneisenau. Bismarck: Felt much worse than Gneisenau to me. I could make her work - but i didnt enjoy it as much. I had still that semi Secondary captain from the Gneisenau, with more points, but i had CE. I think, its benefitial in T10 MM compared to more secondary range. Maybe it would even be better to go for a tankbuild. Games are usually so static and longrange, that i feel being able to tank more is just better nowadays. Due to the armor, you can still tank better than other BBs. FDG: Honestly, i hated it. After 7 games i went crazy and FreeXPed the GK. But that was before it received the recent buffs. Maybe its a bit better now. And maybe it would be better to play it with tankbuild aswell. I still remember one game, where i was <10 km to a Mino and a Donskoi, and my guns just derped so incredibly hard, that i would have died if my team wouldnt have start to help me. GK: Finaly some salvation after the turds before. Im playing it quite often lately, and its a good ship. Full tank build now. Guns are more reliable, probably because 12 guns make something stick. If you have an opportunity to push, you can turn the game. Most ships will struggle against you, but DDs are a problem if they are still around. Even if you have hydro, you are a brick in the water. And dodging torps from the side can open your broadside up, which can hurt badly - even if you dont have a citadel. 20-30k salvos from other BBs are not a rarity, its the norm if you show too much side. Being angled however, even Yamasushi will bounce on you. Pushing + Tanking + Shooting at the right targets will give good results.

Russian Bias 2nd game i yoloed the other russian bias, but mine was stronker, because torps Showed flat broadside at <3km, he got 2 turrets off and ate them all