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Did you have a look at this patch event? Challenge for 150 games played with ships from T6-9 (signals) Directives for each class which require BaseXP / FreeXP and more Still more to play, since you need Tokens from the Hall of fame for the french cptn I guess ill pass I didnt get the Russian cptn either, and wont make a fuss about the french one now.

Since we already have a Smolensk topic, ill just jump in see what you guys are thinking: - Last Stand: Flamu said, Smolensk loses rudder and engine to HE all the time. I was thinking about LS aswell. Which kinda negates the need to take Rudder/Engine mod in slot 2. I will use Hydro, because you sit in smoke and DDs like to torp smoke, so that should be better than having DefAA. Added to that, you dont have a CV in every battle anymore. But Hydro mod desyncs the smoke/Hydro combo - 3rd slot? Better dispersion - seems like, Smolensk already has DD dispersion (is it supposed to have it?). Not sure if thats really necessary, it would go from 130m at 16 km to 121m. OPtion is AA module... Feels like, both are kinda useless, so i still might take the Dispersion mod. Ill use my Kutu Captain (atleast for now) with PT - AR (LS?) - SI+DE - IFHE+CE What are you guys thinking/doing?

Just do it yourself, thats where i have it

If you play BB, you have to make sure your salvo hits. Your reload is too slow to throw it out too fast. Rather take 2 secs more and be sure what the enemy is doing. Even when the JB is bow on to you, you can see the smoke going to the wrong direction, so you could guess he was reversing. Also if a ship is moving slowly, look at the wave infront of the bow. If a ship is fullspeed, the wave is bigger. In this particular instance, i would say you ate the torps because of it. You didnt move for over a minute, and even then you moved very slowly at first. Ofc your team didnt help by going towards A. But sometimes i feel, that some just follow others like sheep. If you dont lead them, they run away to the other flank, leaving you alone aswell. But back to the torphits: Because you werent in position, you made it easier for the DD to torp you, because you were still moving towards the enemies in a straightline. And your flank was weak aswell, especially after the Cossack killed your Seattle. You only had 2 DDs left with you. Granted, the enemies didnt have much firepower down there either. But your weakest position was a DD in the center, which you knew was there because the enemies capped B. And the DD knew you were there because you shot the JB. Its hard to see from your point, as you cant tell how many of your teams ships were spotted, but its possible that the enemy DD even knew he could easily torp you IF all your teammates were spotted already. Not really. He should have won that fight...

More damage. 11600 torp damage is not much. Imagine you hit another DD with a torp, will be better if he takes one that deals 16k damage^^

Here a little help where you want to shoot angled French BBs. Ofc JB was full bow in, but just for future reference Basicly everywhere except Belt armor, superstructure and his turrets.

Ok so i watched it now, and its mostly on you aiming wrong. First few salvos, JB is reversing. You shoot at his bow, so you are lucky you hit at all (even if you dont deal any damage). Later you take lead, despite the JB already being stopped (missed again) In the end, you keep shooting his turrets... for whatever reason. Thats why you dont get any damage. You wont get any damage if you penetrate his guns. Shoot at his bow, thats where big damage is. Also, you showed so much broadside that he actually citadelled you (11900), and he got close to 10k salvos in your upper belt/bow because you showed too much side. Aim better = more damage Angle better = less damage received Also another issue is you taking 4-5 mins to actually join the battle. That cost you like 40k HP...

I agree with this one. Musashi is brokenly OP on T9 in my book. If you cant get better salvos than 2k on the JB then you most likely aimed wrong (or you got unlucky). Ill have a look at the replay later, see whats going on there. IJN BB dispersion is among the worst closerange. You simply dont want to get too close. Thats my experience in Musashi aswell. Closerange can troll you, while longrange you can get some spicy hits. Yes, even citadels, especially when others struggle do it, while Musashi/Yamato are able to do it. Not every ship - but a lot of plating on other ships too. I dont even think its hard to remember. Even Montana/GK can bounce on TX Cruiser plating because they have 30mm, while Yamasushi can go through (some others too, but still). Then you have UK/French BBs which are free pen farm from every angle.

The players Killer Whale is attracting... there is not one single random game, where you couldnt tell a story about some moron doing something stupid. Today, 1 game. 1 AFK Cruiser. We were in a division of 3. Fuso was only one who seemed to have some idea what to do. The other 2 basicly didnt do anything. Graf Spee didnt even get sea Star They sailed 1/4 speed behind us, barely made it into the harbour, then just made it out to the Zone. Me and @ForlornSailor had to fight the entire blob by ourselves (3 DDs, Kolberg, both BBs + the Kaiser, Tenryu, Karlsruhe, the OTHER Kolberg from north ?!) Russian bias proves to be very effective, just sit there and tank

Ive heard you dont need "friends" you can do it with random people too, just invite them after game starts

Got it, and didnt pay anything for it But i dont think it was worth it... doesnt feel like a good division DD. Maybe in a division with another DD

As i said, i dont care too much about that Silver/premium stuff. My arguement was pretty much entirely about DDs (more like Kiev) being able to out-DPM Cruisers. Kiev is the Henri on T8, kinda. I wouldnt say they are too strong in randoms, but if you put them into CBs, they show that they arent balanced. Its quite obvious, that Kievs strong point is the heal. I think someone did the math, what was it like 32k HP? Without a Citadel ofc. Cruisers, a bit more HP, most have no heal but a Citadel. For me, CBs would be more fun, if every ship would be limited to 1. I think that would definetely give some much needed diversity. Ofc not only talking about T8 here, mostly even T10. Im always annoyed to hell if you get enemy team with 4-5 Grads or Harugumos Also removes that Henri spam aswell.

Go sealclubbing to T5, thats where the fun is. May i suggest Jaguar? I think, its worse than Kamikaze. Just shred enemy DDs first, then do what you feel like.

Then why dont we play T1 CBs If its only about getting the one perfect setup and everyone has to play it, and the best wins... imo thats pretty lame. Idc too much about that. If kiev would be a premium ship, would you be unhappy about it? That doesnt make much sense imo. I mean, if TX Cruisers would be weaker, we would have been seeing Harugumo only setup probably, why would that be more fun? But we can basicly stop argueing about it. Its fun for you - thats fine. Its not fun for me, because it shows how screwed balancing is. I think you have better odds playing Kiev setup against another Kiev setup. Just because this game is so RNG heavy. The problem i see with those other DDs, that they can outspot the Kievs, but in the end, they will lose the gunfight and would need to retreat to not get caught up by the kievs.

The problem is, the "counter" to a 5 DD setup is not a Cruiser setup, but the same DD setup and the better / more lucky one wins. What would people say, if BB cap gets removed, and a clan fielding 5 BB gets raped by 5 Cruisers? Why dont throw balancing out the window right away. But [edited]Cruisers is ok, i know BBs [edited]Cruisers, DDs [edited]Cruisers, CVs [edited]Cruisers. IFHE nerf because BBs whine too hard.

WG seems to have put an automatic ban system in place, which scans for certain words i believe. You say any of those, you get 3 days chat ban. You dont even need to get reported for that. If its a 1 day ban, then its probably due to reports.

Id say, for some T6s is too much. Not even 2,5 mins into the game. How the [edited]do you even do that? Toptier... with Graf Spee Its like, people cant even graps the spawns in this game. Can be the only reason, why you pop Hydro/Radar 50 secs into the game right? So its conveniently on CD ones you get torped or spotted by a DD On the other hand, can you blame the player? 400 games played, 3 Premiums (Graf Spee, Dunk, Scharn) and only 2 silver ships on T6 (Bayern and Nürnberg). 16k avg damage in Hashidate, even 5 games... 10k in Graf Spee. This needs to stop. Luckily, the Dunkerque doesnt fit there, its 1502 avg damage in 6 games

Well yeah, f.e. with the CV rework. But WG made it, so thats acceptable to me. At first, it wasnt. And if they wouldnt have made the changed they did, i would have been closer to stop playing. There are some things announced which i dont like: - IFHE change, tbh it looks really bad at this moment for my favourite class (Cruisers, atleast for some). - Subs, but luckily, they are still far away. In general it might not be bad, but i have absolutely 0 confidence in WG getting the balancing right. They have proven, they cant do it with CVs in almost 4 years. Research bureau i dont really care. The initial ship buff was horrible, but now... meh so some people will "buy" themselves Colberts/Ohios. Its not like i need more hightier premiums which sit in port And too much grinding in general. Now we get the french cptn next, but i might skip it, because it involves too much playing as it seems. Thats why i basicly play divisions only. I dont even touch OPs solo anymore, because of the same thing you said. It becomes frustrating (people camping heal in newport/Raptor Rescue or not going for exit in Killer Whale). Why should i even share the XP with 6 guys (who make me fail and potentially even insult me)? I can grab 3-4 other guys, play any OPs i like and get nice rewards WHILE having a good time. Im not really playing that much, its ~60 randoms per month. Throw in some coop (for missions) in there, and some OPs (which i would play more, if they would give me back Dynamo/Cherry Blossom) and currently some CBs if im not at work. Ranked i usually do my 1-10 games and thats it. That would certainly burn me out. Never

Thats not hypocrisy. Even WG thinks Cruisers is a class, that doesnt need any Soft/hardcap in randoms ... unlike BBs and DDs, go figure. Then lets remove the BB cap in CBs aswell

True, thats really annoying. Im just optimizing how to get the grinds done the fastest But a lot of players also dont play at all or much less, so its kinda lame when you cant play with divisions Ive played like 5 ranked battles, not that i ever was into it anyway, but i most likely wont play any more. Also i dont like T8 CB Meta... Used to like CBs

Id send the replay to support, only thing that something ever will happen. Atleast that idiot might get a ban for a week.

Some statpadding got me my Unicum DD PR

Could be better id say. If you get over one thing (CV rework) when they finaly start to balance it, they throw the next Powercreep crap at you (russian BBs). But in the end, the worst thing is still the playerbase. Just today, we had to Super hard carry with our division, we had all 12 kills and 4 Caps. Meanwhile, we get insulted by our team, who had an average of like 40 games played (no joke) and think they are the best players in wows history. Apparently, winning is not important, but whining about your team is... makes sense. If any change becomes too retarded however, then i might quit the game.

Ive been watching Mfour from TTT streaming, and they made fun of people getting out the Chapas to "counter" their DD setup Alltho i think, Bayard could be good against DDs because of the high burst damage. I agree with Colonelpete. If you remove BB limit, it will remove Cruisers as a class pretty much, as everyone needs to pick more DDs. BBs counter Cruiser easier than DDs can counter BBs imo. Especially if you have to work your way through the DDs first to get to the BBs. Kinda hard to say what would happen if you through a CV in the mix aswell

From what ive heard (and also played against) They dont like to play it themselves as much, they say "they have to do it" in order to win games We played against it = its annoying We tried it ourselves = our enemies were annoyed Either that, or maybe it would be better to limit just every ship to 1. So you can run 5 DDs, but it cant be 5 Kievs. Also you cant run 4 Henris or 5 Stalingrads. Maybe that would shake things up again.