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I agree Its not as simple to look at overmatch and say, those BBs have this going for them. You will get broadsides in Randoms, there is no way around it. And Lyon beats the others by sheer volume, even if the dispersion is questionable. I did play Izmail today for the grind, and its hilariously OP. Sinop cant be worse i assume... Nagato has accurate guns and i liked it back then. Even tho, teams were questionable, and i probably did a bit more damage because of that. At the same time, Lyon can just roll over the enemies. While Nelson is pretty strong aswell, its not as idiot proof as Lyon is. Colorado 1 game, hated it right away. The match itself sucked pretty hard, so it was not only the ships fault. And i got NC mission from a container back then so i didnt have to endure it any longer. If i pick a T7 BB these days its either Lyon or Nelson. Maybe Sinop in future? At T6, why should i pick anything else than Izmail? It feels superior to every single other BB i have. Delete stuff left and right. After playing a few games Izmail, took Nelson out for a spin... boy oh boy was that a letdown dispersion wise. Its not right that one BB line has the ability to do crazy crap, and the others just derp around even at close range.

When you kill with every shot, but somehow your team still dies faster ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Before that already got first blood on the other Nürnberg. Problem was, i had to play vs 6 basicly (4 Cruiser + Fuso + CV) and our Aoba crashed Our other side basicly died entirely without getting any kill... you can only wonder. Same story, got first blood on Furutaka. But meanwhile, our 2 DDs just die on the other side. This time, got into enemy base and they got confused so they returned just to get smacked. Might have been close call if they would have kept pushing into our base. After that played a Nelson game, its so rediculous. You try to hit at Closerange and shells just go over and under. Russian BBias just evaporate the enemy Russian Bias got me and

Throw Money at WG when they sell XMas containers again. You can get them from there Might even say, they deliberately make those ships to cash in on them like that Chances that any of those return apart from XMas containers? I dont think so... BBs dont need Radar Alltho i think, the outcry with Missouri Radar was too much. People where crying why BBs sit in the back. So WG made a BB which should be played more aggressive (so you can use the Radar) and people started to whine even harder. Missouri was never OP. It ruined the economy for WG tho.

RU BBs not OP?

Well, Smolensk can only deal so much HE alpha damage, as it shatters on other parts or superstructure gets saturated. I think Fire damage for WG is not effective damage, as it can be repaired 100%. Im not saying its perfect, but better than looking at overall damage numbers and saying, that its OP based on that. Imo Smolensk already is a ship with rather low battle influence. If you lower the damage output, it will only get worse. And if we talk about ships being bad for the game, we could remove like half of the ships in game

Its just rediculous... What level are those supposed STs/CCs playing at these days? Did RU BBs get tested at all? Who thought they were fine So after 12 mins of continues pounding, they finaly did it, they managed to sink me. Emerald shooting/torping, Fuso spamming HE, Texas, Bretagne and Both CVs... Just role over them, as long as you have something spotting enemy DDs, what can stop you? I got even unlucky, as the Emerald smoked up 5km infront of me and wanted to torp me. I beached to hide myself, but CV came in for a drop and killed my engine. So had to DCP it, but one Torp hit me anyway so that was ofc full duration permaflood Also, first time i could have used more DCPs than i had, as i had 2 fires burning in the end which i couldnt DCP. Would have survived otherwise.

Yoshino damage is probably still more valuable than Smolensk damage. WG has their datas on effective damage, maybe they could share it ? @Crysantos @MrConway

Lowtier ships get more XP for fighting higher tier ones. So basicly its "easier" to be top XP earner when bottom tier. A Toptier ship getting almost as much XP as a bottom tier one usually means, the toptier ship did more than the other one.

So Smolensk OP because the playerbase is retarded?

More like Fire damage compared to AP damage, dont you agree? We could go even further, saying, Stalingrad has more citadel potential, and citadel damage is even better than normal penetration damage.

It also deals the most fire damage of all ships, because it gets much more shatters than the other Cruisers. Smolensk and Stalin both got 97k average damage, but Stalins damage is probably much more valuable, as most of it is AP damage.

Most of the time, those players already disqualify themselves by the things they say Also, You dont need that many battles to get an accurate measure for WR. Alltho i do agree, that some people probably got their WR from playing "strong" ships back in the day. We cant tell when someone played those ships... But you can look at how people progress over time, so that atleast tells you if they are getting better (or not).

The problem is, most BB players seem to die inside if they take damage. If everything died, and only 4 BBs are alive on one side, then its almost guaranteed that the BBs played like crap. When i play BB, its the class in which i might go to a position in which i probably will not come out alive, but if we get the win then its no problem. Those risk taking moves dont fit Cruisers and even less so DDs. That doesnt mean, other classes arent infested with idiots. Multiple DDs died within 3 minutes? Not a rare sight. Cruisers broadsiding yoloing a cap? Also happens, but less often as it seems, idiots prefer DDs or BBs. And ofc you got armchair admirals thinking they are the best players while they dont even have 50% WR.... you cant take them seriously.

Sealcubbing ... helping others regrinding for research bureau

Ive asked several times, but ive yet to get an answer when people whine about exactly that. So if you get a win with like 6k damage its fine, but losing with 100k damage is unheard off Most people even dont realize its easy to do well in a defeat as long as you live.

I dont think we need that really. Too often i see DD players just yolo die into a cap, because its a Cap!! You dont lose a game right away because you cant get that single cap. It starts to be a problem, if you cant get any cap. But average players dont understand which cap they can easily take, and which one they shouldnt touch. Increasing rewards for capping might not get the result you hope for. Some people simply dont touch caps because they are dumb af. Will they touch a cap if they get more XP? Hardly think so, most likely they wont even get the information that it got changed. People need to get rid of this "I need XP/Credits/whatever" so i play like a lobotomized monkey. Play properly, rewards follow easily. I play for the win - everything else will follow. If i need to cap, ill cap. If i need to kill something, ill try to do that. Its about doing the right thing at the right time.

You got higher WR because you were playing RTS CVs before the rework (most played class and best WR). Naturally, since they arent in the game anymore, you play the other 3 classes, in which you always had 50% or less WR. So unless you try to improve (potentially play less hightiers aswell) your WR will continue to drop.

No, he is serious. Basicly ships have no AA down there and you can drop 2 torps per attack run now. Times 3 so 6 torps and you hardly will lose any plane. Its rediculous really. Even autodrop Hosho felt extremely OP to me, but what ive seen people do with the current Hosho? Its a joke really....

Can be a visual bug, try to log out/in. Might be corrected also if you just keep playing. Or you started a new game while old was still running and you lost that one.

Ive seen so much weird citadels over the years... either its just RNG or WG cant make proper models. I even expect a weakspot in the Kremlin armor somewhere, as ive seen several sAP citadels from the new Italian Cruisers. Or sAP is bugged, who knows. Everything is possible Yeah, i think its getting worse. Must be some kinda "here you have had a citadel, now STFU" to make you feel good? I like those ships, which have like 4k HP, you score 3-4 overpens and THEN a citadel. Citadel dealt like 200 Damage or so Also i think 100% chance to get a fire if you kill a ship, and that ship has still shells in the air. Can be main battery, or secondary battery doesnt matter. Its basicly guaranteed. I even call it every time when i kill a ship and i still see HE shells coming. Im like "yep, thats a fire"... 2 secs later *burns*

Damage farmer with low game impact... Frequently see games with 200-300k damage but then its a loss. How is it OP then? Its annoying to play against, that i agree with. Pretty much like a Conqueror...

Ive never gotten any ship from a SC

Since i was chatbanned, and a Cruiser kept shouting "set a smoke screen" towards my FRENCH DD, i couldnt tell him that French DDs dont have smoke so... would be good i guess

I agree with you. If you atleast have the basic knowledge to not show broadside, even a bad player can do reasonably well in russian BBs. They are extremely tanky if you manage to protect you Citadel. And even if you limit yourself to the frontguns, you might not get good games, but you will stay long enough to get some damage in. The problem is, if a good player starts to take them out, he will get even better results. I think in 13 games with Pyotr i didnt receive a citadel hit once, and also i died only once This ship is hilarious at T5. Funnily enough, you are even correct about some easy to play ships. I like Kutuzov, but i have like what ~25 games? and i have it for 1 year now (got it from wows anniversary giveaway). There are some nice ships which are hard to play, but are very strong if played correctly. I like Marblehead/Murmansk f.e. The problem is, it rather feels that WG is either introducing ships which are too strong/OP (Russian BBs) or are potentially bad for the game (endless HE rain of death Colbert/Smolensk). As i said, i dont think Smolensk is particulary OP, its just annoying to play against it, if it can focus you. Same like RN BBs: Its extremely annoying to get farmed by a conqueror shooting from 20km Even if they game impact is somewhere below 0, i.e. they make their team lose more often. And i also think, it spins more and more out of control the more ships they add to the game, and they also add more gimmicks at the same time. To keep it ontopic with RU BBs: Who would have thought, being almost invulnerable to lowcaliber HE AND giving them fast reloading DCPs against fires wouldnt be a problem? Can even add: very sturdy against BB AP when angled.

You got attacked by planes from the airfields, which you needed to shoot down (50?) for one star. And ofc you had 2 Bot CVs on your side helping with the attack... but thats not really relevant imo.