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yes totaly p2w. wonder what went wrong there... p2w would include, ANYONE starts this game, buys Tirpitz and automatically start to win because of the ship. No, not gonna happen. Sure, Tirpitz will be an easier ship compared to others, but it does not guarantee a win. Not even close. Also not true. Since playing a techtree ship doesnt mean, that you are matched against a Premium ship. And certain ships will have a higher WR because of their accessability, like Stalingrad or Bourgogne. They are still premium ships, but most players cant get them in their hands. But which players get them? Good players... which will get a good WR with them.

You are basicly using bad players as an example here. You dont need to annoy/distract bad players from anything, they manage to get themselves kill regardless. Its good players you want to punish hard and fast if you get the opportunity. You will not get many of those in a game. If a BB is shooting HE at me in "retaliation" them ill gladly take that. It gives me freedom of movement as i wont be concerned about showing broadside to him. which is funny, because shooting HE often yields higher average damage than just shooting AP.

You forget one thing and that is: player skill. Sure you can beat CVs who are just bad (and there are A LOT of those around), doesnt mean the CV class itself is bad at killing others. If we assume equal skill, DD will always lose to a CV. So will Cruisers. From the BBs, the Massa is one which will be able to crack CVs, since you cant citadel it with AP bombs. Bismarcks and Tirpitz dont have any chance against a CV with AP bombs. They will get smacked for 20k easily, and they can only heal very little citadel damage. Ive also killed a Kremlin in my mino 1v1 (Clanbrawl) and a Yamato in my Salem 1v1 (Clanwars). That doesnt mean that those ships are in general capable of doing this.

Because Asashio cant torp other DDs? (Or Cruisers for that matter)

I dont think those players are deliberately shooting HE because they are smart. They shoot HE because - missions - its "easier" than AP, you dont have to look for broadside opportunities to deal damage. They rather take chip damage and are happy if they get a fire. Then they get "high" damage numbers (because of fires) but eventually still lose the game. Unless i really have to fight the bow-on BB, i rather look for broadside crossfire with AP. Also you can try to get those broadsides yourself by positioining. If you dont want to look for proper positioning, shooting HE becomes once again much easier.

Massa beats Tirpitz every time Also, 1v1s is not what this game is about. There MUST always be a ship, which is better in that situation than others.

Its basicly noobs... Alltho, if (mostly by accident) they all shoot HE at the same targets, managing DCP becomes basicly impossible. So basicly its stupid, but can work I still rather use AP, delete Cruisers with it. That should still beat trying to spam everything with fires to death. Just from today when playing Soyuz. Thats just a massive advantage for my team. Cruisers need time to be useful. If you take that away, then they cant get to their full potential. When DDs/Cruisers are dealt with, BBs will fall easily too.

Good boats First game in each

Havent even checked about that specific feature - why is Vampire in there? From those i have: Musashi: FreeXP Benham: Grind Missouri: FreeXP Kutuzov: Wows anniversary giveaway Kronshtadt: FreeXP Vampire: I wanna say mission... which i guess is correct Lemme check ingame if there are other rare ships...

https://wows-numbers.com/de/season/110,Sprint-10/ Yeah, can see that too. I was waiting for the stats. Its hilarious... Hint: Look at Asashio ranking

Ive only compared to Techtree Cruisers because of availability. Something like Stalingrad will just beat every other Cruiser because its a Steel ship.

How is that a surprise? The whole game is not designed to be played in 1v1 style. Its a TEAMGAME. Certain ships are strong supporting their teammates (Cruisers f.e.) so any 1v1 situation they are at a severe disadvantage. DDs could beat BBs in a 1v1 if they have enough time. But a BB can just bully the DD out of the cap, as the DD cant sit inside the cap with the BB and not being spotted. So what options are left? Bismarck: decent secondaries, good armor and hydro Tirpitz: Same as bismarck but with torps instead of Hydro Massa: Best secondaries, still good armor. CV: Clubs the crap out of any other ship. Massa seems to be one of those ships which can hold back a CV, as its very sturdy against CV attacks (citadel cant be reached by AP bombs - dunno if GZ bombs can hit Massa citadel?). Killing a massa takes time, time which the CV doesnt have in this gamemode. No surprise to me. Not to mention, most people have Bismarck and Tirpitz in port...

Ofc thats the main point, but thats almost only relevant in the 1v1 right now. Sure sometimes you can profit from that in random battles aswell, but you cant just go in as a GZ in a random battle to kill a DD with secondaries. His team might do something about that 1v1s dont have any meaningful impact about the topic at hand. They dont prove anything about usefulness of secondaries on the GZ or any other BB for that matter.

Still invalidates your initial point about moskva having Cruiser armor. The main feature of 50mm is, that no BB will overmatch you. HE spam can still hit your superstructure and cause damage, and certain ships will pen 50mm with HE and that will hurt even more. But you can put almost any BB in the same situation (germans/russians/IJN are exceptions) and they get farmed equaly hard or even more so. Take a French or UK BB which are covered in 32mm armor and let them get farmed by a Wooster... thats worse than a Moskva. Not to mention, fires arent that big of a threat to Moskva. Also as i showed in the Stats, moskva is certainly not the worst ship, even tho its at the bottom half. Hindenburg easily takes the last spot in most categories. Moskva atleast has the radar to get some form of match influence, any major buffs are imo uncalled for. Zao has 2nd worst WR, and Zao is a pain in the [edited]already - it just cant decide matches that easily because it doesnt have that utility like US Cruisers. And HE spam doesnt decide anything. Probably Moskva has more effective damage than others, even if its 4th last in avg damage (which is already in the middle of the pack btw).

Really? Last thing i know was, that if everyone dies its a draw regardless of points.

Deck is 50 Yoshino has 50mm pen, so does IFHE Henri. Zao has accurate guns, he might just hit your superstructure for high damage numbers. Against certain enemies, Moskva has no chance in a 1v1. Hindenburg also eats Moskva for breakfast with his 50mm HE pen, its not even a competetion. Meanwhile, Moskvas slow reload cant do anything to properly punish the Hindenburg, as its HE dpm is worse than Hindis.

Can i still ask a question tho (this is not meant as trolling, i actually want to know) Why do you do this? You clearly had no intention to seriously play that game, why not go into coop?

Yes, happens all the time by now. Started some months ago already, but less pronounced. Even showed a screen and tagged a couple of guys - no response.

1. GZ secondaries have better accuracy than most other secondaries. And they have more range aswell. 2. Ranked sprint is totaly irrelevant to random battles. In random battles, a CV being spotted by the DD will results in his teammates shooting that DD. While in 1v1 sprint, there is noone else to shoot that CV. The GZ only has to see, that he can kill the DD before he gets his torps off.

50mm lowerbow/ upper belt / deck is better than many BBs actually... And AP is probably among the best of all Cruisers.

Replay + screens? Cant really tell anything else... edit: game records replays automatically, just check your folder

Yeah, apparently WG changed the rules for this ranked, so if both die the one with more points wins. So if you lose the cap, and you get rammed, you WILL lose every game. Its beyond stupid... and fits perfectly what WG is doing: Introduce something new and stupid to make playerbase go

Ah what the hell, here couple more Friendly fire #421452 Missing torps <1km next to the target How WG thinks CVs should behave (2 bot CVs ofc)... we have been doing it wrong guys! Both CVs just pop fighters, and they kill 80% of the squad. The remaining 2-3 planes will be dealt with by surface plebs

I think that would be a thing for many Cruisers - not only Moskva. F.e. i have played quite a few division games with a GC, while i was playing Marblehead. GC has 13,7km concealment, Marblehead has 13,1km. With CE, the GC even gets a slightly bigger benefit as its 10% bonus. Or RN Techtree BBs from T8 upwards who have <13km concealment.