DFens_666

You start to wonder, if WG understands that themselves... one would think they would have, since DDs always have lower damage but high game impact due to spotting/capping. Or maybe they actually dont get it, thats why they keep shafting DDs

Ricochet from the turret bottom maybe? The rather strange question ofc, why it doesnt show as a ricochet? Ive had occasionally ricochets, which dealt damage to the target.

I go one step further: Its not even skill disparity anymore. Its the inability to actually play this game for some players...

You kinda have to take yourself (in this case the entire division) out of the equation, otherwise itll be always scewed in your teams favour. Would it be different, if you switch 3 ships from the enemy team for your div? (ofc hard to answer, but if youd take the most obvious ones, like same nation ship and same tier obviously). Also you have to look at the enemy teams division IF they have one. Playing division, you pretty much force the other division in the enemy team like that. 3x BB with 40%? Well, you put them there... ofc its gonna be worse. If you account for that aswell, maybe it doesnt look that obvious anymore.

Ok, lets look at your proposal: - Mounting signals matching players by the amount of signals, because good players have more of them. Why shouldnt i stop using them, if it ensures easier MM for me? Surely, its better to drop a few signals than to shoot yourself in the foot? people playing without upgrades should actually be stopped from playing hightiers. Its such a huge disadvantage in my book. If WG would add that, surely they would be called gready, but it would equalize the battlefield somewhat. And people need to be taught what upgrades are actually useful. Surely they dont know. Just look how many BBs are running around with SE WG making certain modules which could be considered trolling at best doesnt help either (Hindi LM anyone? i think like half the hindis are running around with it from what they told us... its literally garbage)

If id have a Smolensk close to me, i wouldnt hesitate to load HE to be able to citadel it (even with Yamato) because AP overpens it...

BB HE should be reworked entirely... they dont need DoT aka fires. 0% Firechance, instead buff the HE damage especially on those having weak HE right now. Average player is so obsessed with fires, that it should be removed to make the game healthier. But dont make it as strong as SAP - thats also dumb.

You claim, people are only happy when they win, yet a system rigging MM to equalize WR would give many players a better WR... so how would they have more fun? They will do the same, but get higher WR. arguably, they might actually do LESS than now. As an example: If my team is bad (not so bad that they instantly die), i can do a lot of damage, which in the end might give me a loss because i cant outdamage the enemy team. In a game, where my team is much stronger, im not able to do more, simply because my team is good and take their own share. So now we gonna match extremely bad and extremely good players together: The bad players get clapped equally hard by the average players with 50+ WR than they would by unicum players. Why should they achieve more than before? As i said, they might potentally do less, because they dont face equally "skilled" players any longer. 2 40% players fighting each other could do something to each other, while a 40% fighting someone with >50% will die, because the 50% guy understands basic angling and ammo selection. Btw im not saying, that roflstomps are fun if you are on the winning side - they are always unfun regardless if you win or lose. However, fixing it might simply not be possible by only shifting players around. Players need to understand their own role better. If all BBs hump the same island, its a loss no matter what you do. That i can basicly guarantee you. They give up all mapcontrol and there is no crossfire. - BBs dont understand map control - DDs are too gready for caps - Cruisers are focusing on farming BBs/fire damage - CVs dont understand proper target selection Those are core issues (a bit simplified). And having deliberately bad players on your team only because you are good, must be the most unfun thing ever invented.

I tried to tell them, that it was obviously sarcasm, but then i got told "dont you think i notice myself, that ships get worse and worse"

You think if it would be true, he would just say it? Without getting fired? It wasnt the only sarcastic thing he said btw, there was more...

It is possible to citadel german BBs through Bow/aft at a certain angle and bypass the turtleback - have done so myself. But then i shoot at that place and not at the superstructure.. thats whats the weird thing here.

Yep, its very strong. Not only good guns (AP) but also radar which helps to win games. Others might be better at damage dealing, but then they dont carry radar.

Whats the turret armor (havent checked before)? I mean, its the only thing i can imagine which should work... then again, we never know what kinda bugs might exist^^

The question is, why would anyone make an effort to get better / good at this game, when it wouldnt matter anymore? No matter what you do, youll get that ~50% WR (give or take a few % ofc). Deal 0 damage? yep, 50% WR. deal 100k damage? also 50% WR. And wouldnt you want to be rewarded if you are good at something? Or would you have someone play your efforts down and credit someone as much as you, while he did nothing?

Now that they all spam HE they gonna have fun... oh wait

Dispersion is the only thing keeping BBs balanced tho. And cruiser armor got buffed, so more armor = more armor? Not disagreeing that BBs arent frustrating to play, they sure as hell are, but playing Cruisers needs much more attention. Atleast playing on equal levels. What some people proclaim as "playing Cruisers" is hardly succesful... I feel even at similar ranges, you tend to hit DDs as good as BBs. Which is still not correct if we concider the size difference. Just look at that for example. Meanwhile in the same game 4 out of 9 on an angled DD, not much closer than the Nelson.

In case you mean me, i didnt want to attack you directly. Was more a general statement towards "BBs should load HE" because it makes the game even worse. I cant stand that BB whining anymore lately (again,not directed at you). Thats actually something i find quite fascinating. I actually think, either DDs have a debuff or the rest has buffs when being shot at. If you hit a DD with several shells, but at the same time you hit LESS on a BB, there is something fishy about it. Not sure how much bigger a BB compared to a DD is, but probably like 4-5 times.

Which is ofc bad for Fusos 356mm guns, but theoratically could explain less pens due to ricochets (no overmatch = no pen). And in regards of the citadels, nothing has changed. I think the problem is, that BBs never really cared where they had to shoot, they just point+clicked at Cruisers for CHA-CHING. Instead to learn something (like all classes have to) they switch to HE

Saint Louis started running away and i assume, the Asashio tried to ram it

Id say the only thing in common is the same look they share

Alsace keeps on delivering time and time again 3rd game now at 170k average Also Venezia is crazy...

My bot seems to be running perfectly at almost 65% I mean, ive been called Bot a few times by now so must be true!!!!11

Somethings wrong with german BBs i guess... see this My explanation would be barbette penetration ricocheting downwards into the citadel.

Orion

Thats probably unlikely to happen. The shells dont really fall that much, so plunging fire isnt really a thing (unless for really floaty arcs). You might hit the superstructure, ricochet off from the deck and get an overpen.