DFens_666

WG just failing in english - nothing to see there to make it a bit more fun

So if WG tells us "play DM for AA", and the DM gets shredded to pieces by Haku AP bombs + Venezias/Stalingrads, because they can shoot 23km (and hit) while DM cant shoot that far (and isnt able to hit anything), then how does that help the players?

Currently it says 820m for Conqueror. If you make a turn, its 938m. After the patch, it will say 940m. Looks to me its exactly what you ask for?

Who said you need to aim at the waterline?

It was less, because the captain skill got nerfed. it gives 10% concealment bonus to every ship class, while before it was different (DDs 10%, CAs 12%, BBs 14% CVs 16% IIRC) But thats soooo long ago, have you not played in like 2 years or so?

Nah, its in the rules. But i guess noone knows how they enforce that rule...

More like 6 out of 10. 3 wins / 3 losses pretty much guaranteed if you play solo.

This is for Cruisers. Not a map ive played often yet, couple of times only. Id prefer that side, as it has a lof of islands, which help you go undetected or turn around if necessary. Really bad map for T8 Cruiser in T10 MM, you will often have bad games because of the camping going on. One of those spots, could be ok to have some cover and range to be able to shoot some enemies. On the left side, i wouldnt go too far in since you will have a hard time maneuvering, and many enemies like to go there, so you can try to farm them from the outside. Tends to be a lame map because playerbase. Just dont go where the red circle is, usually 50% of the players go there and they sit next to each other for 10 mins until one side gets flanked. You cant shoot / cant maneuver there. Center is a bit risky, but can be played, shooting at where A cap is, or potentially help your DDs in the center too. Havent played that either with T8 CAs i believe. Center play in general seems to be useless in the start, nothing will go there. You can ofc look to help your DD if one is going there, and use the islands at the yellow circle to cover yourself. Id avoid getting into the corners, you can however go a bit outside to farm your opponents from there. Those outside maneuvers always depend on how the game develops ofc, if the enemies push you, dont push into them. Dont like that map since they reworked it Avoid the corners, many people tend to go there for no reason. More of an open water playstyle because you hardly have working cover. Yellow line is a potential (but not frequent) move, depending what the enemies do. Dont do that ofc, when they push the corner. Try to familiarize yourself, where most enemies go, especially BBs. Most of them go the mapborder, so even if you stay a bit in the center, you wont have many problems. The better you can play open water, the more succesful you will be. Going too close to get cover and get spotted because of that will most likely get you killed. Mogami has good concealment, always look at how far you can go in. F.e. if your detection circly goes beyond a cappoint, you are already getting trapped. If the enemy DD enters the cap before you are spotted by him, you get an early warning and can turn around in time.

I think it would be easier to look at a specific map which gives you problems, than some general advice. Ive had success giving a player direct advice where he should go depending on the map, and it was much easier for him to understand.

Thats not really a place where you should be in with those 2 Cruisers. Sure you can go a bit closer at the start, especially with Mogami since it has good concealment, but in general you cant go too close. All the higher tier Cruisers will wipe the floor with you, since they have a heal and you have not. You can try to use islands to block vision, but sitting at islands doesnt really work with those 2. Getting randomly spotted while being stationary (and potentially broadside) can be devastating. So if you want to get close, work with your concealment and turn before you get spotted. Then start kiting and shoot the enemies, use speed and rudder to juke/dodge enemy salvos. Dont be in a place, where you can get crossfired from BBs, rather turn your turrets instead of showing too much broadside. As for BBs: Dont be in a place, where they can just free farm you. You need to be able to go undetected if crap hits the fan. Other BBs arent really a threat, unless you show too much side or they are Yamato and you have 32mm armor (or they spam HE...) Any BB has enough standing power, to retreat from a situation where he gets spammed by a TX Cruiser. But stopping and trying to reverse away is the right choice, that will help the HE spammer, as a reversing BB is extremely easy to hit. Rather take your losses but survive, than to die slowly but guaranteed. Later on you can push in just fine, just dont overextend into the enemy spawn.

So where do we take all these Unicum divisions to match them against each other? Is a T8 Unicum division the same as a TX div thrown in the same game? Clearly not. While the idea sounds reasonable, it just wont work. The result is just, good players in a division are basicly unable to play any longer.

Hist post is bugged I cant click on anything or even quote him. If i click on the link, im clicking the top of his post. Seems to happen from time to time, dunno why, not my fault. You were talking about yourself being racist? Seriously, that makes no sense any longer... (see explanation in my recent post above your) Again, you claim, im the one insinuation anything, while you do that ALL THE TIME aswell. I know you edited that post, and thats why i thought its weird, that suddenly a guy with 8 posts and 80 battles quotes me, showing how often the word racist was used in this forum. Which ofc doesnt show, since you removed it. Now tell me, you wouldnt think its weird? As i said, i didnt want to quote you any longer. I wanted to drop this whole issue because its pointless. How can a question be truthful?

Actually ive talked with several people about it, and neither is sure what you tried to say with that, and we all had different opinions what it could mean. English is not everyones native language btw, i assume its not yours, and its not mine either. Who are / what is "the known word" --> i interpret that as vocal forumites, who have knowledge about the game. The known word = vocal forumites = scourge = racist. Later in that sentence, you specify a group, that is abusing the MM with DIVISIONS to prey on other players, who are inable to counter that division with 1-2 ships. Feel free to tell me, what you wanted to say with that sentense, but i think i figured it out already. You are feeling personally attacked, while most of the time, you are attacking a certain group of people. If someone from that group is offended, you claim "oh i didnt mean you". - You are attacking "good" (i deliberately use " " here, because you probably dont consider them good) players, playing in divisions. - You say they are cheating/gaming and rigging the game in their favour. You have so far, failed to specify which group is doing that, so everyone playing in divisions can feel attacked by that. - You pretend, its your opinion, while its hidden with insults and insinuating, what other people are trying to achieve. Lets go through what you have thrown at me within this conversation, shall we? - Insinuating what my motives are when talking to other people. That post was 0% constructive, only stir up emotions, which you succesfully did. - Insinuating, some people use fake accs - for all i know, you could mean me aswell. But thats what you like to do, saying something as vaguely as possible, so you can weasel yourself out of it. How about man up and say what you want to say? - You calling division players cheaters on several occasions by now. Thats not your opinion btw, its an insult. You dont get to say, what a cheater is. The term cheater has an established meaning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheating So who is subverting rules here? Divisions are not allowed? Divisions consisting of different tiers are not allowed? We all are playing within the rules provided by WG, noone is cheating. You claim, my post was derogatory, while you are the one, sitting on his high morale horse insulting others. And you have the audacity to claim, me saying what you not are is derogatory or an insult, while at the same time, you proclaim to speak the truth about how divisions are cheaters !? Who is not for real here, i wonder...

Doesnt surprise me tbh, there have been more and more people complaining about how bad BBs and how OP Cruisers (supposedly) are. Surely cant expect those players to actually be able to play Cruisers in a way, so they would influence the game. But in a way, i disagree DDs dying early is lack of support, most of the time its the DD being overly aggressive which just ends in a YOLO. If the DD gets spotted by another DD/CV/Radar, you cant expect the enemies not to shoot him, even if you would run with him to the front in your BB/Cruiser. Short story about that which i remember: Was a midtier game on Fault line. We told our DD, we will support him in B cap (2 BBs and a Fiji). And we did move right next to B in the middle of the map, because we could. That didnt prevent our DD from rushing and open water gunboating half the enemy fleet. Naturally, they killed him right away, after which the DD complained about our "support"

@WilliWankaChocoFab Luckily, i wanted to write something about that yesterday, but i decided not to do it, and the forum software saved the sentence i wanted to quote. See above. Meanwhile, lossi actually edited his post where it said that (mods can surely check that, if someone feels that im making this up). Are you his fake account? Feels kinda convenient what happened here. and FYI, your post is bugged, can neither quote nor click the link you provided, but i assume you wanted to show, that he didnt use the word, which infact he did...

From one of your earlier posts one can assume, you called some forumites racists.... Tell me, how that is derogatory Not to mention, the first post we are talking about, where you claimed i was baiting the OP, to make him react angry See, you dont know the truth. Like claiming, Unicum divisions run around in voice com all the time is simply not true. You cant know why people play in a division, there are different reasons. You pick those, which fit your narritive, to paint others as supposed "bullies / cheaters". The reason to play with others to have fun never existed in your explanation, i wonder why?

Well first of all, you can see T1 players statpadding 90% WR, those actually exist if you look at highest WR players on wows numbers. Noone would consider them good players. Funny side fact, i had one of them in ranked sprint few days ago, and i was like "how does that guy have 65% WR on his account" then i realized, that 80% of his games are T1 ships with >75% WR. And on T8, he wasnt able to do anything, he was just useless. 2nd, my solo stats are ~2,5 years old, i really only played solo for the first 1,5 years, and even then i already played in 2man divs. So if you feel better to compare to myself from back then, feel free to do so, just isnt really accurate Here a more accurate version of my current skill level

Id welcome a "competetive" mode which isnt tied to same clan players only. Like a Brawl, in which you can enter with anyone you feel like.

Id prefer Orion, actually has AA to shoot down planes.

Which with my current random battle number would be 925 losses till i reach 55%... sounds like fun? Isnt the result the same, just depending what ships you play? As long as i play ships with low WR, i could increase it, but if id play a ship with very high WR, i would basicly just lose? You could almost certainly tell when you will lose or win, especially with ships that have few battles played. The only way to have "random" teams would be, if there are enough people in the game who have very little games in their ship. (which, surprise, could result in horrible roflstomps aswell) TBH, i dont see the point of artificially increasing/lowering WR. The result is, skill matters less on both ends. Instead of looking at ways, to make the game more "fun" (which i doubt - maybe for the slightly above average player it would be more fun, as he has permanently semi-competent teammates around him), we should focus on getting player skill up.Or absurdly bad players out of hightier, since they simply are incapable of performing. They can perform on T5-6 probably, but not on TX.

Thats not bait. Thats explaining to others, how mechanics work in this game. Quite frankly, there seem to be some (you included) non-unicum players that think, good players in a division are actively "cheating" (not my words) at various levels depending what fits their narritive (voice com, certain ship/tiers, ...) A good CV player doesnt need RPF from anyone, to find a DD that is not humping his teammates in spawn. Within the first minute, the CV reaches enemy spawn, how far can a DD travel by that time? And how is RPF useful so early in the game, when it basicly points at the enemy spawn, BECAUSE the DDs are incapable of moving far enough away from their spawn point. But why learn from better players, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Theoratically what you propose is this, using myself as an example: - Me (65%) and a 45% guy to balance it out - enemies get 2 x 55% players which results in equal WR (both 55%). I can basicly tell you, the 2 x 55% guys will win 100 out of 100. The 45% guy will pop like a bottle cap instantly, and the 55% will then kill me just by angling and right ammo choice. The same can be said for an entire team, if you would have 3x 65% SU division on one team, the enemies get all the 50+% players, while the <50% WR guys go all in the SU division side. The problem is, the 50+ players actually participate in the battle, thus deserving their WR, while <50% players literally dont do anything. The only reason they have a WR, is because they cant lose every game, so they just win by default most of the time.

So what you are saying is, CVs cant deal damage at TX against 2 ships or more, so they can only spot enemies. Yet, EVERYONE has to play around CVs, because once you move away from Venezia and Stalingrad, the CV actually will crap you to death easily. Sounds fantastic, why do we keep CVs in CBs again?

All ships within the same tier have the same chance of catching fire.

Its not true, that there are more CVs than BBs on lowtiers. It only looks like that, because a game can have max 4 CVs, while BBs can be 10 per game. If there would be a maximum of 4 BBs per game (so same as CVs) you would have more BBs in the queue...