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So according to you, 220mm guns are smaller than 8inch?

So Moskva can overmatch 16mm? Interesting theory, please tell me more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8"/55_caliber_gun and btw...

Small area? thx @Eternus_Damnatio for the pic Thats all autobounce if angled properly. Can you get citadelled because of the citadel step? Sure you can. However, thats still less likely than eating multicits because you werent angled at all. Also there is such a thing as angled too much, then they can easily go through bow/stern into citadel, but at a 30° angle its not easy to hit for the average player. They will shoot your belt because they see citadel infront of their eyes (which kinda makes sense, reading all the answers in this topic ) If you hit the 16mm armor above, you will ricochet from the citadel deck. btw 16mm doesnt get overmatched by 203mm guns, the closest is 240mm from Henri.

That kinda happened once i started playing radar mino in CBs Also you would be surprised, how many people shoot at your angled belt

Exactly, its easy to hit, and no BB can overmatch it if properly angled.

They have the same armor tho, so doesnt matter. And idc if you believe it, but if the kremlin shoots your belt you can bounce it... doesnt look like bad dispersion to me

You can actually use that to your advantage even. Most people are so greedy when seeing a Neptune/Mino, that they shoot your citadel guaranteed. And with a citadel that size, you can actually bounce quite a few shells. Yamato shoots Took like 8,5k from me, 1 pen and some overpens. These ships need confidence when you play them. If you know what you are doing, you can do some funny stuff. Like bouncing a kremlin salvo shortrange Good closerange dispersion can even work in your favour.

Is PR better against CVs than other Cruiser? Dunno, dont have it. However, is PR better against Venezia and Stalingrad, who make up for 6 ships out of 7 in the CB? Clearly not, even more so, if you put everything into an AA-build. You cant just focus everything on CVs, and then ignore all other ships around it. Venezias/Stalingrads provided the best solution against CVs, while also being best against all other Cruisers. Having a better AA ship would just get spotted by a CV and then killed by a horde of Venezia and Stalingrads, rendering it useless / dead. What makes you even say, that people dont want/cant adapt to CVs? They did, and the outcome was: Hakuryu Venezia Stalingrad a Halland here and there. People continuosly claiming, that unicums dont want/cant adapt to a situation are ignoring the fact, that they actually did. And the outcome was boring.

Yet, for the most played CB tier (T10) there kinda are no premiums you can buy with money... the only you could ever buy so far, was the PR, and you certainly dont need that one for CBs. Sure you can use it, if you want to (then again, CVs effectively made PR also useless).

How does CVs/potentially Subs in Clanbattles generate them money? Everything evolves around playing random battles - thats where WG is making their money. Only a small fraction of the playerbase is regularily playing clanbattles, and most of those dont need to spend anything to get a techtree CV for clanbattles.

Dont you think, thats what the best clans/players tried to do? Why did they all play Venezia and Stalingrad? Because they have 23km range, and if you go closer, you get slaughtered by the CV and die. The closer one team gets, the easier it is for the opposing CV and harder for your own, thus you basicly cant close the distance. Venezia was the only ship being able to try to cap, thanks to its fuel smoke concealing it at full speed. But back to DDs, there are no useful DD sitting in the back. No DD can defend itself from good CV players. Halland was the only DD being picked sometimes, as it has somewhat decent AA while being undetected, so it can help others with AA. And the 15km torps can be used occasionally. CVs removed: 99% of the DDs, except Halland which was played a few times 100% of BBs, because BBs and CVs cant both be played at the same time Almost all Cruisers except Stalingrad and Venezia. Why should anyone accept a class, which effectively makes 90+% of all ships useless?

What about BB/DD players, whos class got effectively removed with the introduction of CVs? I suppose, those DONT matter to you?

The problem is, since more people have played Neptune/Ibuki/Roon, the more people are also included in the top 5%. But as others have said, Neptune could get a small concealment buff, so it drops below 10km. Same for smoke firing penalty, it should be <6km.

Funnily enough, they didnt. And in that match, i wasnt finished yet Only like 4-5 secs that time, but still. Its not necessarily about just hitting stuff, its about hitting where you want to hit, like citadels on a moving target.

Nah, i can live without it, alltho im sad ofc, because the game could be so much better in literally every aspect. And the other part, which im sad about is, that i cant enjoy the game with the people ive met over the years. But if anyone ever asks me, if they should play a game made by WG, ill surely tell them not to. If you tell outside people what WG is doing, they ask you "why do you keep playing" and rightfully so.

Because secondaries penetrating BB armor is actually better than penetrating Cruiser armor. Just looking at the TX BBs here, Repu, Kremlin and Yamato. You think, ANY Cruiser would want to be in secondary range of those big caliber BBs, which overmatch them at basicly any spot? The only ones, that wouldnt care so much, are Moskva and Stalingrad, and surprise - they have 50mm armor, so secondaries wouldnt hurt them regardless. At the same time, Kremlin f.e. would profit from secondaries, that can BB armor, Yamato not so much. Repu probably could, as french secondaries have best range. For GK, this is entirely different now. All TX CAs can angle against it with the 30mm side plating and lower the damage they take. So working secondaries actually holds Cruisers off from just rushing it.

Or just skill IFHE? The problem is, if you buff it to 30mm without IFHE, then you can go past 32mm pen with IFHE, which also lets you pen BBs. I used to play Massa with IFHE/AFT/Manual sec, and it only has 127mm guns.

We had DD/BB/CA in competetive every season, so i dont understand why many would suddenly be offended by any of those... And this noone is = havent seen a single thread on this forum that stated "remove DDs from Clanbattles" (yes, ive seen remove DDs from randoms in a sense). Meanwhile, we have 1 season with CVs and hundreds of players are upset (or even stopped playing) That already is a huge difference.

But why? Noone had problems with DDs before? And they didnt remove any other class with their presence either.

Shouldnt that have happened already, seeing how we had DDs in there every time?

Had a guy in ranked sprint, who played absolutely horrible, basicly just died doing anything. So i checked his stats, and a big fat 65% bumped into my face. I was like "wtf, what is that supposed to be". Then i scrolled down, and it was clear what happened: 80% of his games in T1 ships with ~75+% WR. The moment he leaves T1, he is useless. We all know, that he is not a good player. But then you would need the MM to understand that aswell. And this is a fairly easy case to identify. What do you do with people, who have 60-70% WR playing certain OP sealclubber ships (Orion, Nikolai, Hosho, Gremy, Kamikaze, GC....) but once they play hightiers, they drop below 50%? The variety is just too great to put people into a certain category. So the only real option would be, to educate people, but as Excavatus pointed out, we all know how likely thats gonna be - from both points: WG educating them, and them being willing to learn.

I just think, the game is not doing that great on their home server aka russian. Atleast that what numbers seem to indicate which ive seen aswell. So more russian ships might get russian people back into the game. However, ive also heard that a lot of russian players think, that their ships are bad... To me, it doesnt really matter. If some people are happy by having a lot of "their own" ships in the game, so be it. As long as there is balance, it doesnt matter to me.

I doubt there are more than 10 people who would attempt that shot... 2. He was unspotted for 14+ secs and going for the island 3. RPF doesnt help at all The thing which makes it possible, is the marker on the minimap, which ive said multiple times that it needs to go. Its ridiculous tool, which too many people cant use properly, but if you are good, its like have a cheattool at your disposal. I take that as a compliment

I guess the question is, why would you have worse results running the concealment mod? TBH, i consider Hindenburg LM to be complete trash.

I like this one