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Combination of both being boring/feeling like a waste of time and getting no rewards. Playing ~15 mins even in a loss often gives atleast decent baseXP, even tho it might be frustrating. Also it usually ends in facepalming because you cant understand why most of your team suicided Thats pretty much impossible. Not saying that these happen frequently, but they do happen. When 6-7 ships of your team just die, you can forget about stopping that. The maximum is usually 4~ ships or so, from that you can sometimes recover. Even a 5 min roflstomp win can feel better, because you might have contributed to that yourself by blapping 2 ships. Kinda annoying, but atleast you get a win. Overall i must say tho, having those roflstomps is not something i see very often. I can but wonder about people claiming that they have them all the time, if thats really true or if they are just making that up. Most games usually last >10 mins.

Been thinking for like 5 mins how to make this post not a guide how to play around radar I guess in the end, the biggest issue is ships, that can stealth radar or a close to that. Because if you get into radar range of a spotted, lets say, moskva, and he manages to catch you, its your own fault. Getting inside radar range of an unspotted ship should not be such a big deal most of the time. If you dont see him, he should not be able to shoot you even if he radars you. Your task is to make sure, that you dont get shot at by any (or too many) of his allies. Those you should see before you get radared aswell, otherwise they should not be able to shoot you either. Leaves us with ships, that can stealth radar (or almost) - DDs - RN CLs - Balti/(Cleve)/Chapa Sure you could add some more, which have detection close to their radar range. Petro surely was an issue before the nerfs, maybe it still is. For russian CAs, the entire radar approach was silly imo. Remove the radar, instead buff something else. Would especially be better for Competetive, and not make them useless in Randoms either. Out of those above, which are truely an issue? You could say, radar mino, but its already having huge disadvantages for using its radar, and its quite challenging. Also, how often do you run into one? If you do tho, you might be screwed... Balti and Cleve often camp and certain islands, so you should be able to work around that. Its probably more an issue when they are toptier, especially balti, because she is rather resilient against BBs with smaller caliber. On the other hand, the DPM is not good. The issue i mostly see with DDs is, that they use islands as a disadvantage. For some reason, they think its smart to be sneaky at ranges, where nothing can spot them. Then they bump into a radar ship at a bad time and get radared. When going for a cap, either go towards an island or do it stern in, so you can escape faster.

Nah, remove all limits for CVs, and once there is more than 8 in the queue, a CV only battle starts so they can get some of that CV love back they are giving out to all other ships

AA only works "properly" against bad CV players. And fighters ofc. You can shoot down 40 fighters which have 0 impact for the CV. I dont even know why people would claim, playing CVs is hard. On the most basic level, its very easy. If you make a mistake, you dont even get punished for it (lets ignore yoloing with your hull, because that is just stupid). You can try again and again, because it takes time before you run out of full squads. Now playing a class succesfully? Is it harder than any other class? I dont think so... Your 2 tasks are: dodge flak and get proper drops. To me, the latter needs more practice especially if you dont play CVs often, but it ofc depends on the attack type too, while striking a BB with rockets is hilariously easy, getting citadel drops with AP bombs on BBs is not as easy. The first takes 20 mins watching YT vids how someone like @El2aZeR manages to dodge it. Just copy pasta that and you already dodge most flak without much issues. Playing BBs/Cruisers/DDs succesfully is much harder.

In the end, which type of game is least fun is subjective to every person. I dislike 5 mins losses the most. Cant do anything, wont even get decent XP. Followed by wins, where you couldnt do anything, because you also get bad rewards.

Radar is already a counter towards invisible ships, be it DDs, ships in smoke or even BBs behind an island. Asking for a counter to Radar would be, if CV players ask for a Counter to AA. The answer to "radarcounter" is, to play around it. Like Cruisers have to play around BBs, or BBs around DDs.

Most people are just unhappy when they get a losing streak and then come here, showing the worst possible results to make a point how unbalanced MM is. Then you dont hear them for the next couple of weeks when its average or even when they get winning streaks, because why should they? If someone wants to work against losing streaks, there are only 2 ways to prevent them: - Git gud - Play in 3x divisions with good players (thus you need to git gud yourself first) Problem solved. But nowadays, people rather complain and want the easy way out to get what they want instead of investing even the slightest amount of effort.

Didnt they sell like 6,5k steel missions last Xmas too? I know they did, just dont know how much Steel you could buy

Generating money though techtree ships - marvelous idea. I wonder what we can expect in terms of steel. Selling Steel at Xmas? Most likely id say. Let SU CV players with FDRs go ham on the playerbase, so average potato is like "ImA GoTtA GeT DaT ToO". Since they possibly cant get that amount of steel in one lifetime, WG will happily provide them with a certain amount at XMas.... a little bit 4 free, a larger amount for money?

That Graf Spee is OP ofc, what the hell would you think

Did you play Stalingrad lately (in randoms that is)? I tried to get in a position to use Radar, which basicly leaves you permaspotted and focused by the entire enemy team because their hate against Stalingrad lets them ignore everything else. Best play it like it has no Radar, maybe later on in the game you can go for it.

Well, Moskva/Stalin gameplay would be boring even if you remove their Radar Maybe even more so

Maybe you should play all or atleast more than 1 radar ship to make such statements. Try Radar Mino, and get first bloods on DDs in open water and tell me how boring that is. And dont complain if you get devstruck by BBs.

Just some numbers as comparision: proships.ru shows average shells fired, which i have 183 in GK, with 28,77% hitrate. This results in 53 hits per game on average. Or if you would calculte from the top, lets say you get a hitrate of 33% (which is quite high already, especially in a secondary setup) you would need 360 shells or 30 full salvos. With 26,1 sec reload, you need to fire almost 14 minutes nonstop to achieve this. Its not quite difficult, its basicly impossible.

Almost 400k - had to almost do the harbour by myself, because my team refused to do anything. Luckily, WG decides, that BBs should not be shot at, so i was mostly safe, except for getting permanently set on fire by secondaries Also the transports got 2 secondary kills this round btw secondaries my secondaries did an insane amount of work for a russian-non secondary BB, i was kinda baffled when i saw that.

Sims is the only ship we know of, that has a better baseXP modifier, so WG does tinker with it atleast on some level. From just random games, i always had the feeling that Stalingrad and Kutuzov also tend to give me higher baseXP for the things ive done during the game. I always tend to get less XP with BBs than with Cruisers - dunno why that would be. With the Sinop, i even got damage in on the DDs, as i had to do most stuff by myself. I kinda cleared the harbour on my own, as my team didnt help me

Even more so proves my point, when i play that little CVs and can still perform decently with them. If they were that hard to play, surely i would suck with them Also... how did i do that

Did play some more Narai today in division but filled with Randoms. Got >2k baseXP with Boise dealing 270k damage and killing all transports The other best was 1950 baseXP with Sinop dealing 394k damage. So either you need >300k damage preferably with transports and/or a premium ship with good modifier? From feeling id say, the 2k with Boise would have been less with a techtree Cruiser. Division in itself doesnt seem to make any difference, alltho doing it with less than 7 people seems to impact it heavily.

Me playing CV in ranked... yeah i suck so hard. Sadly the 4th came later and didnt get on the screenshot. Also, im not here to fly with planes, i wanna play with ships. I dont enjoy playing CVs, thus i rarely play them (if ever lately).

Oh yeah, thats why a lot of people, who play mostly CVs, tend to have much better stats with CVs than with other classes... guess the other classes are so easy to play that they just cant be bothered to play well, right? Playing CVs is the easiest class in this game, how can anyone even dispute this? It just is: fly planes to attack ship, dodge black clouds while doing so. If you lose planes, who cares you lost nothing really.

Its like a contest for the most useless player. Not MVP, more like MUP

I know, but in the end you have noone going for the CV (well this time the florida followed me... but can hardly know that before), and then you lose a star so... and 3 guys grabbing transports from one another doesnt help much imo

Even disregarding other downsides of a system like this, what WR do you take? - Acc WR - Solo WR - Ship WR - Tier WR - Class WR ? Which one is correct... People with 70% WR on acc playing only T1, but when they jump into T10 they have 40% WR. You gonna match him against someone who has 70% WR playing T10? How is that balanced?