Max_Kammerer

Friesland is province of the Netherlands :) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesland

Loving pre-nerf YY (not in clan wars but in random), but now she is wery weak... Her predecessor, Chung Mu, has unfortunately really bad AA - so after CV rework again shines universal Swiss knife of DDs - Fletcher with AA/torpedo build. Chung Mu is good ship, but lack of AA and anti-DD torpedoes significantly lowered impact of this bote. Anyway, lot of people think that Daring is overpowered - but this ship is icredibly slow, has poor AA and very short smoke. Easy CV target ans also target for radar cruisers... Generally speaking, any nerf of hight tier DD can change good ship into weak shade of her.

Any from your beloved T10 ships with perma camos + premium account and you will have problems with millions of silver... (more than 600 000 000 with 240 ships in port)

It is so dependent from playstyle and preferred class, that simple answer doesn't exist. Sims and Kidd are strong in this CV meta, Cossack and Haida are great ships, but their AA is weak...

Result of the last battle of the day was nasty surprise for enemy CVs... especially Graf :)

Unlike destroyers battleships really do not have to sail solo but accompanied by cruisers, in addition, they have hydro, spot planes and can easily defend themselves - they surprisingly have guns. Comparing the unparalleled, destroyers absolutely do not limit the main functions of battleships in the battle.

Well written sir, etche it in stone... As a high tier DD-player I'm really disgusted with the development of the game meta. Almost all hardly grinded 19p DD-skippers (25) with their ships are with some exceptions (Sims, Kidd, Fletcher, Gearing, Grozo - all with full AA builds) not well suited to this meta. I invested tremendous amount of time and sources (perma camos) for grinding of all T6-T10 DDs and their captains and majority of them are very weak in the presence of often two enemy CVs. Reason is simple - complete loss of the key class advantage/attribute - concealment and consequent impossibility to fulfill the main class roles (spot - cap - stealth attack). Moreover, the devastating effect on the efficiency of the entire ship class is synergistically multiplied by the increased presence of radar cruisers, which are also the best AA platforms (Des Moines, Worcester, Salem...). So the nail in the destroyer's coffin was already hammered and it is pitty. PS: I'm playing again destroyers, but mostly only USN AA-destroyers and random battles are really not fun...

Kitakaze / Sims / Massa / Fiji / Kidd

Expensive, but it is MUST to have for DDs collector (me :) ). Still only Gremy is missing in my collection and I spent all steel for Black and Flint. So hard and long era of the next steel collecting is coming

My small private war with two carriers :)

I have perma camos on majority played ships (>60) and also using all possible premium consumables.

Here is another, by non-DD players overolooked aspect of the CW rework... Synergism with increased abundance of radar cruisers + last radar buff. Thanks to high presence of CVs lot of players bring to battles USN radar cruisers, which create together with CV planes much problematic environment for DDs skippers despite their abilities and skills. And please, dont answer me: adapt... :)

100% true

Yes dude, but it is Kidd (best AA-DD in the game with Sims) - and you was in game with bad playing enemy T8 CVs... Against well played T10-CVs you will make a big fart with any DD... Have dozens similar games against T6-T8 CVs (with Kidd/Sims + 19p skipper + AA build) - but this case has no relevance for this topic - it is only exception. In the reality CVs-rework completely broke the game balance (working as a system nerf for entire ship class together with also much higher abundance of radar cruisers) and supressed key roles of destroyers (spot-cap-stealth attack...). And some exceptions (USN destroyers with DFAA) only confirm this sad situation... So my uploaded battle rusults are not confirmation of a great DDs-life after rework, but example only two AA-dedicated DDs...

So from your text is clear that key functions of DD as a class were diminished... Great...

He wants to play destroyers, not superlight cruiser without citadel... :)

yes, one of Dido class CL in the game is also my dream :)

I mean, 19,000 battles is not low, but seems somewhat low to have got 36 captains trained to 19pts unless you spend money doing it with experience conversations using doubloons --------------- No coins used for exping, but camos and flags obtained from missions etc. - and I'm playing in majority only ships which are giving good results :) (it means lot of exp points :) )

Yes, 10 pt captains are especially for DDs and CLs good enough to serve well, with some exceptions which need 14p skippers for IFHE (Harekaze, Akizuki, Jutland, Cossack, Daring... Balefast and some other CLs)

Every ship (236 ships in port) has special captain, no moving except Atlanta-Flint joined 19p skipper. I have 36 19p skippers and over 50 14-17p skippers, so all ships which are often played are well equipped. But mostly I'm playing ships with 19p skippers and obtained elite points are immediately used for exping of a new captain to the final level...

Have all DDs in game except Gremy, playing almost DDs only (>75%) and in 25 DDs are sitting 19p skippers, so I'm loving lot of them :) T2: Smith / Tachibana T3: nothing interesting for me T4: Clemson T5: Kamikaze T6: T-61 T7: Sims / Haida / Gadjah Mada / Z-39 T8: Cossack / Harekaze / Akizuki / Kidd T9: Jutland / Kitakaze / Fletcher / Black / Chung Mu / Z-46 / Yugumo T10: Gearing / Shimakaze / Daring / Grozovoi

Ship balance is nonsense - 200 balanced ships ingame is only great boring nothing... Majority of so called OP ships are very good or good and mostly played by good players. You can "balance" every ship which is the best one in the list of the same tier class-tier ships (it means nerf her...) and next the second in the list will be the first. So you have to balance her also... et cetera. I have no problems playing against Belfast, Kamikaze or Stalingrad sitting in silver bote (my most played ships are tree ships - Fletcher, Gearing, Fiji, Leander...). They are spice of game and some of them are hard to obtain. And second reason is, that I payed hundreds and hundreds euros for ships which were advertised for some properties - if WG will change them - my (and not only my...) wallet will stay closed for eternity. And finally whole game will be in economic shits.

The first LWM's review where I'm not agree with her... Exeter is barely OP (it was mabe OP with smoke and 12 s reload) - but now it is mediocre ship, especially in T6/T7 battles (which is common situation).

Only hype and remnants of old stealth fire... At the moment Fuji is stronger ship thanks to combo of HEAL, TORPEDOES and better MANOUEVERABILITY (Belfast is Town Class...). Have both, both with 19p skipper, both often played - but I feel much more comfortable sitting in Fiji. Belfast is primary and very fragile target of the entire enemy team.

yep, and this game is NOT SIMULATION but arcade, and manual control of secondaries will destroy very fragile balance of entire game...