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I hate AR and only dislike dealing with cvs so its a no brainer here

You should take a look at Flambass youtube a vid from today him playing benham... I was speachless

Well no DD is (or ever should be) a direct counter to a cruiser, although there are some that are disturbingly good at it

It will decrease the 15" effectivnes in certain situations, yes. Enough for a reparation? IDK, doubtful TBH

So its as I thought, well I am fine with it, cant say I have trouble doing damage with my 15" and I wont have much even after changes as I tend to fire (usually french ones) them into broadsides and from mid range and they are quite devastating

@OP you mean you wont be able to overmatch some ships at mid and high tiers that you could before? I am not aware the AP penetration as such is changing?

Smolensk has 3 smokes (with SI and prem consumable) you need to have a 16 pt captain for her (PM or PT - AR - BFT/DE/SI - AFT) and the 3mil range module in slot 6 and you can farm 100k damage easy before you are even in any real danger of beeing sent to port

Yep, my sec spec Ohio (slot 6 included meaning AA is buffed as well) shot down 3 planes in a match

Well I will just say something about cvs... Took a look at my Ranked stats this morning and I have 62,5% WR in CVs (thats overall meaning time before and after rework) while my total wr is overall around 51% Thats whats wrong with the cvs, even a potato can obliterate the enemy if he has at least basic competence becouse there is no effective counterplay... I mean WG explained that when balancing ships they deem a ship is overpwrforming if a player manages to do better in one ship compared to other similar ships, now what does that say about the CVs then? THATS wrong with them

Yep

Well I had decent succes with farming the BBs in the battle I took Smol out, AP also does fair job on the broadsides when offered in reasonable range so I easily slaughtered the enemy cruises however she is really bad for sitting in capzone and if you get a speshul BB squad in your team well... PR and Ohio served me better

That would be strange as the reason for removal is over-abundance in MM so leaving her in shop would be sort of silly, however maybe @Crysantos knows the answer...

Doubtfoul the planned reduced side armor wont make much difference for those that run range mod on Smol as deck that takes most long range hits remains unchanged, you might chip her a little more and thats about it, ie for me it will just mean I take prem heal and heal flag

@umbra_arboris Well Flamuu posted some stuff with Cunningham on his youtube, you should have a look, due to skills logically it seems he would be best suited for DD or CV BUT as it turns out actually getting a Witherer even with Daring (strongest of RN DDs) seems quite dufficult a task... Now due to MM peculiarities he migh give you more mileage at Jutland as she will see somewhat more T7 and T8 that have less fire resistance but that inhalts you play her often enough to be worth it, otherwise probabbly a BB or CV would be a better choice @MrFingers did it? I was in game breefly this morning before going to work and I think it was there but cant swear on it

6 guns at T8? Think I ll pass on her, lot of tome she ll meet hwr sister that has 12 of them and I already have her

Yep press LMB and point roughly in the direction of the enemy untill they catch fire, one of few ships best suited for current hightier MM

Hmm good question, I guess you could either tone down the corrisponding setting in sound options (for all warnings and effects) OR look for some sound replacement mod in modstation to take care of it

IMHO - if you intend to get Burgogne some time in the future take Smolensk as Burgogne is same concept of play just stronger, if not you might consider JB but again its personal preference of BB vs CL btw Bajie (dont know if she is still awailable though) is just as good for collecting silver as most other T9 prems

My god you are a fanboy arent you? Well whatever as I didnt hear it myself but read it it might have been a wrong quote, as for reworked cvs how about seasons 12 and 14?

IDK if you remember but a few months back one of the executives at WG (not sure who, might have been S_O or someone else) when asked about Ranked MM, stars etc stated something in the line of "yes we know this is a mess, we are looking into it and are preparing something different for the next season" well now we are at the next season and nothing is different, Arms Race we had before, retar are still making sure you see saw for ages, irrevocable ranks are still the same, prizes are still the same, cvs are still here... We are all at fault really, us players, they keep serving us that same every season and we keep swallowing it every season, we play and play in that shshow instead of boycotting it, saint spreadsheet says we play it and hence its all good, no need for change...

WG really You have the chance to finally fix the mess you induced with those ships USE IT

How about 32mm plating?

Yep as in 100mm shell with IFHE penning same as 200mm shell without it...

The problem is that these IJN gunboats are an exeption to normal rules of caliber/6 HE pen (with some other ships and lines) and now that the rework that should finally start to bring some sense in all that mess WG in their infinite wisdom is making them an exception AGAIN, all HE should be equal cal/5 but some will be more equal and have cal/ˇ3 and you can increase that even more... THIS GAME DOES NOT NEED THIS The IJN gunboat line should by logic of things primarily counter OTHER DDS meaning cal/5 is enough and adequate tweaks for the main battery and ship maneuverability should be applied to to make them usable in that role, even better Haragumo can be made a CL (like Smolensk) and moved in the arsenal for freexp or coal or whatever (simlar to moskva situation) and a normal 4x2 gunboat should be added for T10 to make the line actually consistent, it can be a CC of Kitakaze just with say 127mm guns that actually have proper reload instead of them churning out these abominations...

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