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Dude if a guy has an issue hitting you with Mino at 9 km he most likely wont be sporting radar and citing her to death with ANY DD before she vaporises you is well not likely

Well Mino can still stealthradar AFAIK and is actually one of things you really dont want to meet as a dd?

RTS was bad AS IT WAS both for the CV player (skillgap, ui bugs) AND for the surface ships (alpha strike, spotting) BUT you had effective AA ships that could shut down a CV basically regardless of his skill as fully AA specced US cruiser or Minotaur (and some others as well) would effectively make a no fly zone on the map not to mention your CV could and should contribute to the "air space control" with effective fighters and this os something YOU DONT HAVE now, aside from clumping up there os nothing you can do to prevent strikes and you can absolutely nothing about the spotting CV does, yes you can play around it to a degree but only to a degree, if a CV is at least semi-competent and wants you dead, you are most likely dead - sooner or later, it makes CV (from a surface ships perspective) basically just a random damage mechanic you have no control over, you will either get struck by it or not, you will either get killed or not so why bother with even trying anything, RTS could have been changed, this iteration could as well but well...

Well if you are good with Gearing its a solid choice, take 13 km torps and BFT+MBM3 and you will have a tool for area denial and BB control (torps) as well as gunning down Shimas and similar, otherwise take whichever DD you are most comfortable with

Got Cunningham yesterday, any extra tokens will get sunk into doubloons or flags or something

Dude I am mediocre CV at best but Fries is hardly more then a sidenote aside from the fact she has that long smoke and hiding in it provides some cover she is just as vulnerable to a CV as any other DD is, esp T10 CVs

Look the CVs as such are not a measure or factor of anything as yoh cant really predict them even if you do "Esc hovering" and thes can arrive at any given moment to ruin your match, aside from taking a cv yourself the only other way of long term solution is just ignoring them and playing the best game you can hoping cvs councel each other out... Now after adopting this you have 2 ways of proceeding through ranks - play to win or play to keep star, you basically decide this before you even press the "Battle" button as the ships you choose dictate what you do or rather the other way around... Now if you want to play for win you have to take a ship that can alter the outcome directly either by playing for objective (moslty stealthy DDs) or denying the enemy the same (mostly DD hunter killers or fast firing radar cruisers) now SOME success can be had by taking out flanker BBs or kiting cruisers IF the teams are competent (MM RNG comes heavily into play here) BUT they are a risk if you intend to carry as you can be put in a team completely shutting you down by not doing anything to further your tactic... If on the other hand you want to go for the star saving you basically go for HE spam, the more and the stronger the shells with better gire chance the better is the key here, in T10 that means 12+ gun BBs (Thunderer wirks as well due to insane He shells) and CAs (Burgogne, Conqueror, Zao, Goliath etc) or Smolensk, find the position from which you can hit as many targets as possible and start with fires, ideally start one or two fires after the target DCP-ed so they burn longer and rack up damage, if you see a disciplined target (this refers to a BB most of the time) with high fire resistance and good DCP management not spending the DCP before thay have to just start one fire and move on, you will start one fire on those ships far more easily then 2 or more and without wasting 2 much time on it ideally you want 2-3 enemy ships butning from your fires at any given moment (its not eass to fo but as a goal) and yoz will rack up the damage to keep the star, the paramount in this "tactic" is NOT dying early meaning NOT taking risks, thats why most people hate guys doing this as they basically dont support the team and objective play whatsoever never push and are often the very reason for the loss... Now its up to you to decide what tactic you want ti embrace, GL

Slight change of an individual ship does nothing to fix the inherent issues, we are talking systemic cv vs surface ship interaction here when was the last thing added? And the module changes dont count as that didnt do squat really, the slot 3 module (mire puffs) didnt mean s to any half competent CV player that had working WASD keys (simply doge it all) and the new one (faster sector reset) apparently does even less and slot 6 module now uniting the secs, aa and extra puffs is both T9+ only and not really anything new either

Well I dont even meet that many CVs actually its mostly BB heavy meta as usual and metric cra ton of smolensks

So when was the last implemented CV change aside from Midway torp buff? 0.8.6? 0.8.7? How many were even tested on PTS to be rejected?

It was easy to code the god subs and run them through what was it 3 test servers so far? How could they code those so easy? Dont be optuse, besides most of those things were sistemic soft stat changes that didnt require any extra coding

Yes but mostly becouse of the knowlege of how to break the system and not their sole abilities, the best proof of that was the 1on1 sprint where some really good players got 100% WR THAT is a fully skill based result - YOU are better and YOU win, in classic rank you can be the best player in the world and you will still lose often becouse the team will let you down, its especially prominent when you are playing DDs or select other "high skill, high risk and high reward" ships that depend on the rest of the team actually doing their roles and supporting you at that crucial moment as often if they abandon you at that time you CANNOT escape anymore

Wut? Where did I mention minimap spotting? El2aZer and many others (me included) ie commented how the RTS and AA could have been fixed for instance (this was long before the rework was final btw) to shrink the skill gap and make the learning experience on cvs more intuitive, also how the AA core mechanics rework getting applied in the same patch will wreck havoc with game ecology and make it nigh impossible to balance properly but WG went full R in that regard and just wènt for it... Later in that huge thread (next to loads of whine addmitwdly) a myriad of suggestions how to balance the reworked CVs were given and none were even considered let alone tested...

Becouse Kremlin is a brick, its only redeeming feature beeing the "balanzed armor sheme" WG simply refuzes to touch, I can only imagine the amount of blindfolds and ear plugs that they had to hand out in their dev departement, Kreml works well if you have competent teammates that will make use of the "face in focus" you recieve by going to the flank and deleting all the moskvas, grads etc, alas in Rank you can seldom expect that, ok maybe past R5 and you wont keep a star either becouse the spamming Conq will

Sure, sure bro whatever you say, not like many of us gave constructive input before, during and after the rework and all that and it was mostely ignored

Interwstingly I got the same exact ban you did down to a minute

Most of us dont even hate the CVs, I can ofc only speak for myself but besides disliking CV play "both sides of the fence" I dont hate them as such and I play them from time to time, same as I play say Belfast from time to time or Smolensk or something else thats broken, problem with CVs would be far less if people were actually playing broken and op ships occasionally and behaved normally, alas people tend to grab the most broken thing they can get their hands on and play the living hell from it, call it stat padding or just "liking to win" but it happens Now to fix OP ship situation there are 2 ways - a) nerf/remove the ship or b) buff everything around it until its not OP anymore, WG largely adopts this and together with the inevitable power creep we are where we are in the general balance, now for BROKEN things there is no solution to buff everything around them as their very existence in that form brakes the game "ecology" those things need to go from the game, when there is an individual ship in question (Belfast for instance) it can be removed and little harm is done as after some time the numbers of it will dwindle BUT if the entire class is broken (case of CVs) then thats much harder to do @Sonlirain DOT numbers can stack fast if you can find suitable targets and put long lasting fires and floods on them

This Ranked BS system has absolutely nothing with your skill level, your winning chance will be decided in the MM (which side gets more uncariable potatoes) and overall progression will be decided by saving stars on defeats, and if you are playing to save a star that is achieved not by skillful play and tactic but by taking a HE spamming BB and sitting back, everybody else that actually tried to win the game is likely to end up behind you and your only true enemy is the guy next to you doing the same... However we are collectively re and we play and play this mess for some bits of steel and "saint spreadsheet" shows to WG everything is ok and we have fun

Oh yes they would, like half of them would last helluva longer

Well they do get a star, as for AFK there are some mammas speshul boys around that would make their teams a favor by remaining AFK

Did they finally ban the sub 45% from queing up? If not, the changes (if they even exist) are irrelevant

Rank 10, didnt play yesterday as I was (and still am in fact) at work Doing something else while breathing seems to be a problem for many players

You beeing better then the cv doesnt mean its auto win, Enterprise or Kaga for instance have no issues deleting a Kii her AA is not that strong

Gets even worse few min later...

Well IIRC they said in the stream the event will be similar to the RN CV pre-access, if so thete will be a number of bundels with guatenteed content in them that you have to buy in order (previous lower tier ship had to be bought first for the higher one to be unlocked) since the pre-access of lines usually involved t5-8 its safe to assume this will be the case here only thing in question is how much the bundels will cost