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Miss what? Of late they were just a 4 week timegated grindfest for the "grand prize" said usually beeing a mediocre (at best) or garbage (most of the time) mid or low tier premium yoz will play 5 times after getting it and sell it for silver (or leave as port ornament) and as the "compensation of internally assigned prize value" the individual missions (some of which were not even that simple) were rewarded with one flag/camo or 5k free xp or such BS... No I dont miss them at all

You guess wrong I am cruiser main with BBs coming second however I play all classes since day one (yes that included RTS CVs as well) at least to a degree so I am pretty sure I can predict how the subs will influence the game for the other classes given what I have seen from the test

Mhm sure thing bro, just you know there are two issues with that line of thought... 1. WG should take a look at how much I (and other like me) spent over the years on this game and think if they really want us gone 2. They will attract some amount of millenial and post-millenial kids that will go away in few weeks/months and those dont spend cash for long if at all, the enthusiast will NOT come back once they are gone So ok, you support this line of developement you will be in sub/cv infested game with a bunch of 6 year olds in no time and should they put hard cap on the number of said ships to ensure fodder you will have 10 minute waiting ques meaning kids will go away even faster, have fun

Come now you know that ship wont sail... If the subs ever get in randoms even if they are only @ T6-8-10 its gonna be premiums for T6 and 8 in no time (lkely having homing fish in T8 as the selling point) and possibly even some sort of PR like event for the T10 within few months from the getgo... Meaning you will (same as CVs basically) have 2 options - jump the wagon of abusing the f* out of the broken mechanic and having some satisfaction from it while game is dying around you OR quit the game, weather its quitting it alltogether or just playing occasional low tier match and ops/coop (if they even exist at that point) which pretty much amounts to the same thing while again game is dying around you

Nope - rclick uninstall

Exactly, between the way the surface warfare is evolving in this game and CVs being what thwy are I am just about at the level of BS I am capable of enduring, any and I mean ANY more and I am gone

Yeah no s*** however you do realise there is a simple solution of that partucular problem, lets see if you can guess what that solution is?

Well as opposed to the popular stance this actually can be truth IMHO esp with long range torps, ships having those onboard are usually gimped badly in other aspects (some dds and most cruisers sporting such fish) or are nigh entirely dependent on torps for their role (most notably IJN torp DD line) and NOT using their torps just because a random teamate MIGHT turn into them if he goes "speshul" means denying themselves a large portion of damage they could have done or even performing their role entirely, sure you shouldnt fire fish if its likely that you mught hit someone you shouldnt but also people suddenly going opposite direction from one they were going previously for no logical reason and running into a cleanly fired spread happens alot as well... Situational awareness extends to all ships at all times its not only applicable to the torping ship...

Well I decided to revisit Henry yesterday and well its hard work now, I mean you can kinda still do the dance with acceleration + rudder mod in slot 4/5 esp if you are under engine boost but still the large amount of ovetmatching BBs sailing around and shear number of incoming shells makes it really hard to actually do damage while evading even with double turret turning boost (enhanced em + turning module in slot 3) IDK maybe I just need to get used to her again... Then again Henry was always comparably better in competitive with smaller teams then in randoms...

Well I (me being potato cv that I am) consider wasting my time and planes on active spotting only if the team actually seems to be doing somwthing with said spotting (focusing the key target) otherwise I might drop some figters on my way to a drop if its opportune and thats that... I have enough of a trouble racking up damage as it is and dont consider coming in bottom of the table so some bbs can plink from cover a worthwile endevour...

There isnt, either they will be balanced and hence unfun and unpopular leading to subs themselves being a fail (unlikely as no sale) OR they will make them brokenly OP and hence popular ruining everybody elses game experience in the process (marketing guys rubbing their hands) also the sheer number of surface ships being pushed in game recently while comparatively few are being announced would indicate they intend to sell off the projects they have in works before everybody catches up with the fact their T8+ ships for 35+€ a piece are all scrap metal for the subs using guided fu** torpedos that are fired from below surface by seemingly a nuclear submarine that never needs to get up to breathe, aim or whatever...

We already have one class that is completely removed from normal game play (CV) and as a result its utterly broken, game doesnt need anoter one, not to mention that CVs were much more relevant to naval warfare in general for the time period the game is covering then subs and that it will take A LOT of revamping in the game engine and redesign of maps from scratch to push subs in, its literally forcing them in for the pure reason of expanding the premium ship pool and nothing more, there is NO way subs can be implemented that will not be detrimental to the overall gameplay experience

IDK but according to most locked profile users that happens to them all the time...

I vote (this is voting no?) to remove the entire sub testing and subs themselves to the dustbin for one...

Dont forget the "I am being singled out at the match start for my great WR and PR by all the tryhards that have MMM installed" routine...

My point exactly, I got it in the first go with the "Balansolensk"

Well there is the campaign task of 18 fires in a single match...

It doesnt mean HE doesnt have its place though, bow on to bow on you can shoot AP on another BB shooting HE back and you will die every time

You mean as in hold the center of the map and incinerate all that come in range? Mind you I didnt even have modules on her for this fight... You know what else skyrockets your WR and is even more reliable? Taking a really powerful ship...

Yeah you do and yet reliably tanking against deck overmatching BBs is pure pipedream, plain and simple, you will bounce one salvo maybe two and then the next one will shave half of your HP away, once you cant use the upper belt and deck to bounce it is just a pure lottery ticket - will it hit belt or superstructure or will it hit "meat" skill involved is 0, actually going full broadside might even yield less damage

Or just dont make them

Oh really? Ok I take Kremlin or Ohio and you can take pretty much any cruiser you want barr stalim/moskva we go to the training room and you show me the tanking

He was clueless I played FULL AA build (including the slot 6 module) and most T10 CVs would lose 2-3 planes from my sector-ed AA on average, ofc occasionally you get a guy thats more on the dense side so he plays "collect them all" and gets flaked out of sky but on average CVs I met ignored my AA

Maybe, fact is playerbase in randoms is somewhat dodgy of late even in the best of time, lockdown after patch weekend? Well lets put it like this - a bunch of lobotomized apes would be of more use to carry match then most teammates are

It is an upgrade, however I literally dont see the point in this DD line (its same as the RN CAs in that regard TBH) as in whichever situation in a battle I find myself in I seem to be wishing I was in another DD instead, Oland is kinda nice fit overall, others are very meh compared to other in tier DDs, besides only gimick in the low tiers making them kinda worthwhile is the heal as they dont even have esp fast torps...