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Well not quite, Kutuzov, Belfast, Cesare - all were in shops quite long

Preserving planes and just spotting is more impotant in competitive modes TBH, in random it really hard to justify it as you just lose out on damage and its quite unlikely that random potatoes will actually make use of that spotting

Soo how many games did you play in a heavy cruiser in the sub mode? I am asking because I played 5 or 6 in my Pepsi yesterday and somehow what you just wrote didnt happen? My only direct interaction with the subs was hitting one that was briefly spotted by our cv using minimap blindfire, all the rest was a) dodging sub fired torps, b) not dodging sub fired torps and c) getting spotted to death by an enemy I cant do anything about (sounds familiar?) btw de grasse is a light cruiser and IIRC Nurnberg doesnt carry depth charges As for the second part - I fail to see where your optimism is coming from, then again you are a brit?

Wake up bro, subs of other tiers are already in the works, this was clearly hinted in last weeks stream, this means this test "to decide their fate" is a farse, its already decided they are getting in the game, 2 many germans want their u-boats and are willing to pay for them, 2 many yanks want their Balaos and whatnot and are ready to pay for them, and tweaking anything in sub vs surface interaction wont make much if any differnce its another class working on a "separate layer" and removed from normal ship to ship interaction in normal circumstances, only way you can slap a sub or a cv as another ship type is either utter end game in a stomp when there is like 6 vs 1 or if they make a blatant mistake, this will be another unbalancable class...

Well maybe, maybe we get the ships cook to dump 15" shells in the water tip down over the rail to try to hit them like that...

BBs are srcr**ed, plain and simple, only slighty less are CAs as most of those at least have hydro and can turn a bit faster, only thing masking it ATM is fact most sub caps dont yet have muscle memory and tactics figured out

Oh pls do explain to me how you intend to evolve the counterplay for BBs and CAs that cant drop depthcharges. I am genuinely interested how you envision this happening

Log out and back in, that shoud fix it

Detected alert as such has some bugs, I had several instances where I was quite evidently spotted as I had pinpoint accurate fire incoming despite manouvering while on my end I was "undetected", I woud say 99.9% of time it works perfectly but sometimes it just goes derp...

Yep, besides its probably the most cost effective ship type for them to make, less fiddly details to model as there are on average like what - one gun and one machine gun on deck and a bit of rails and periscope mast, and thats it, "armor" is also just a double hull, you can probably make an entire line of subs in the time it takes to make ONE surface ship... And premiums will likely cost same "per tier" as any other ship say a DD

Yep rework really made this map shine

Take a guess... Hint: What happens if you have a CV with full squadrons left vs one of those?

Unbelievably but I actually got a 300 token crate today...

The very fact Odin a BB (that was built armor wise to go in and brawl for those sensitive ones around) was nerfed to the ground the very instant people actually started doing the BBs job because it was "over performing" although it has mediocre secondaries and T5 main guns on it kinda says it all about an average BB player in high tiers nowadays, doesnt it... Average hit rate in single digits and all that... I will grind it AND I will keep regrinding my RN BBs as well when you cant beat the speshul - join them

I second this, can I get another 500 coal bundle instead?

Well maybe we re lucky and they stay T6+ only, that way we can have T3 and 4 as well, maybe the CV pop goes down when the clubbers migrate

Makes no difference this garbage will be in randoms and an all tiers before New Year, better get what fun you can from this game before then

What is not correct? That I dont have counter play? What is the counter play in your example? Dodging? Just dodge, right? Where did we hear that I wonder... Yea, you can dodge them most of the time in a cruiser, in doing so you expose broadside to devstrikes, you dont do ANY damage in return nor can you, soo fun and engaging... Besides i can hunt a DD down sub can just pass under me and laugh

Yes there is a difference in that I can kill the said DD while I can do jack s* against the sub, clear now?

I dont get this statement? How exactly do enemy DDs come into all this? I was not sunk by their DD, I was sunk by 4 homing torps that appeared from nowhere and although I saw them in hydro there was just no way I turn fast enough to avoid them, so again fail to see the relevance of their DDs in all of that

I learned its exactly what I expected - you have no counerplay, you are basically a bi** for the guy in the sub, when this comes to randoms I am out of this game, plain and simple

No

Subs = CVs in my book, you get to do no real counter play even in DDs/CLs as its player vs automated mechanic that only works if you literally sail over them, in a CA/BB you dont even get that... No sales here bro

Just met my first sub, homing double tap salvo to my Pepsi, you get no sympathy here

Halland (or Friesland for that matter) can be quite unpleasant for the CV if the guy in it knows how to use her, OFC in the end CV will bring him down (alone or by focus fire) but the price can be steep, so steep in fact most CVs will just find somebody else to pester and I guess thats about as much you can hope to get in this DD vs CV iteration I for instance have trouble farming that plane kills mission with EU DDs because hardly any CV wants to come even close to me, and when I div up with a CV its even worse they KNOW I am after their planes they dont come even in the same part of map...