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Whatever you say, hope you like coop bro

It is not the ONLY factor but it is the MAIN factor, deptcharges require you to either sail directly over the target or close to it, drop them and hope for a series of hits, for this you dont even have a bloody crosshair to indicate an area where they will fall, in the meanwhile the sub has GUIDED f* TOPREDOS that BYPASS EVERY PASSIVE defence system your ship might have and strike into the citadel and to deploy it she needs to click 3 times within around 10km from you... You consier this a good design? Kudos

Bro if you dont see the problem of countering a GUIDED F* WEAPON with UNGUIDED DEPTHCHARGES there is nothing more to discuss here

Then why do you advocate that current iteration of subs using guided weapons is fine? I mean what I mentioned a) comes from the same era as what they have put in and b) actually is meant to COUNTER the said weapon systems, thats why it was invented in the first place...

Anyway, soooo you think WG should add guided missiles and ASW guided torpedos to the game?

Just play with different ships and go for up to about 1200-1300 baseXP mark then switch ship to another nation or class and repeat

Only voicing WG will respect is when the whales stop financing their BS, plain and simple...

Dont worry bruv I am sure those guided missile DDs "will never be in game" (TM)

Mhm god thing I have D2 Resurrected...

No HE shells pen what they pen, only negative is the fire chance cut in half, but raw damage when you actually get to use the secs in a brawl more then makes up for that, some other BB lines that wont pen 32mm with their main sec guns even running IFHE and HAVE to rely on the fires one way or another are a completely different story but “ze germans” really shine with that... Also there are exceptions for isntance Kurfurst and Gneise (and I think Odin as well but I am not sure anymore) that have 128mm lower cal secs dont need IFHE As for FP I find I can go without it of late BUT one has to be very careful about positioning doing that...

Yes for the german 105 you IMHO want IFHE, cutoff is 32 mm pen for me at least in higher tiers and ships that can meet high tiers +, that unforunately means T6+ or basically the entire line...

Oh hi Beast

More like I ve been playing coop all day long and only got a handfull done...

He is basically saying I am going to do whatever I want and you can swallow it or go f* yourselves and he expects that to work because he knows it will...

AFAIK Montana was never supposed to go 30kt but more like 27kt and the BC version aka Iowa class was supposed to do 33-35, however between the budgetary constraints and Pear Harbor lessons the slower BBs were pushed to the side and later the entire doctrine was based on CVs and fast escorts...

Because the new pet project has to be given every chance to get ahead while still maintaining an illusion rest of the players actually have viable counterplay...

Btw, ben toying with this build and its pretty funny

Iowa is basically a BC to Montana class design, if they would want to use her they might move her to T10 BC line and she would fit there… Lexington class (represented as Constellation in game today) might actually fit better as T9, they were after all intended to counter Amagi/Kii but with some tweaks ofc… T8 should be a cut down Ncal design something like 3x2 16” or 2x4*1x2-3 14” similar to Florida but going 32-33kt

Other DDs can detect that Halland/Shima that is merrily wrecking the entire flank for the team to shoot and yet they often dont now do they? Balancing a ship much less a class based on “teamwork” in WOWS Randoms, now that is a speshul idea… Remind me - which other class countering was Balanced on teamwork again? How did it pan out again?

Why are you so toxic? Dont be toxic! I mean That’s how they (esp sub_o) seems to view every criticism if his “vision” for the game… I mean maybe guy needs glasses, I can recomned a good optometrist if he can’t find one himself…

On all German BBs with 105s you need IFHE for full sec build, the 150s are 2 slow firing to dish out enough damage to other BBs by themselves...

Its not useless in gerenral terms but on a BB and esp sec spec BB its rather pointless IMHO...

They dont want to learn, their modus operandi is - make OP something, sell, nerf when enough were sold, repeat...

Ok so which ship is good to deal with a Balao? I mean besides another Balao obviously…

T7 we can all get is as far as it has sense going with subs around, and even T6/7 only for occasional ops, higher up fantasy designs are garbage anyway…