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Sooo what you are basically saying is - if the feedback on something WG does is good then its real feedback and if its bad is skewed and should be discarded, gotcha... I mean its EXACTLY what WG does all the time...

Because as a T6 you will have a pleasure of being "befriended" by T8 or to translate +2 ships that are vastly more powerful then you are and as a T10 you dont have that happening, well ok soon there will be T11 that will be pure PTW ships but we wont go into that now will we...

They were balanced around Deadeye that was a thing right around their arrival and WG as per their usual "needs more data" (read doesnt give a flying f**k about a line whose primary monetization is over) to asses the impact of removing a skill that was a flat bonus to a dispersion from a BB line that lives from spamming lite (for a BB) shells in high tiers to farm damage... Unless they become so unpopular it jumps out from their spreadsheets I wouldnt hold my breath

Actually I get the OP notion, if one wants to expand the fleet and esp if one doesnt pay for Premium time and ships scrounging together enough silver to expand into high tires can be a tedious task, one might need to play 100 battles in a T6-7 silver ship to earn enough cash to buy a T10 and thats quite ridiculous... Added to that some T10 ships without special camos are pain to run in Ranoms as one doesnt expect to do a lot of damage with them on a regular basis... Btw WG IS clamping down on the silver economy of late and all indications are they intend to clamp it down even more as well as add the silver guzzlers in the form of T11 that are not T11 superships...

Well let me answer you with this - yesterday I dropped an overlapping plane DC strike on a Balao some 8km away from my Izumo and scored 0 hits on her

One needs to take a step back and just decide what to collect, the assets in this game passed the level of achievable for any normal person long time ago...

Nope not really, only on ships the skills are there for other purposes anyway, modules are a waist, if you know where the sub is 2 racks are enough to pop her and if not 20 wont do you any good

Hence - the pair, one freemium and one tech tree T9 or 10

They look nice, I would like the pair

Nope thats Arctic BCs

Hmm a Zara class that is T7 and was shall we say “adjusted” treaty cruiser are nothing to really write home about so Bolzano would prob be a better fit for T6

Ok bots are bots, only reason they are a problem in the first place is the frenzy feed coops are so you need to go reckless if you want anything done but it does highlight the issue of skill needed to f* up someones day as in - nearly O

TBH personally even If that would be historically hilarious as well I woulnt mind them going 30+ it WHEN ON SURFACE, submerged though? No, that makes hunting them nearly impossible, there is a handfull of DDs in this game that actually have enough speed to overtake them in any kind of realistic time Frame to even try hunting them down limiting the DD (and cruiser that have DC) play to basically catching the sub with her pants down, and that is a very Poor design indeed…

Yep and That’s even without hearing the dreaded PING and realising there is a hunter killer destroyer bearing down on your sorry a**

And reason why anyone would then agree to play any other class of ship in the same arena is…? For a comparison we can take a squad of medival man at arms and bowman coming the Woods in which there is a Royal Marines sniper - would you go in the woods volunterily?

That would be a BIG improvement yes, the subs and torps should still be slower and detection rules should be sorted but yes that would work, have them like the alternate fire modes on the new superships, one turnes it on and can use it for a salvo, lock on doesn’t even need to be breakable but torp should stop homing reasonable distance away or have a severe limit in turning capability and to enable homing mode one has either 3-4min cooldown that can be cut down a hit by scoring hits with normal torps and AR or something or even fixed number if charges period

It would be a start but the homing torpedos are an issue that cannot be oversrated, make no mistake that mechanic is game breaking, only reason its not a complete breakdown already is that many people are still learning the ropes… For subs to fit the game their ridiculous sub underwater speed needs to go, ridiculous torp speed needs to go, homing needs to go or be changed to something utterly different and detection mechanics that allow them to completely evade ships that hunt for them without consequences need to go, otherwise we have another completely broken class on our hands and this game wont survive another…

Its a valid point, problem is - I dont like their version of sub play

It was clear since the moment the "silent majority" was brought to bare that the "stats" will be tweaked to the needed level as to show what sub_o wants them to show, its just meaningless dribble at this point...

Well the leaning is ONE of the classic definitions anyway but no matter sub is a boat and has internal deck...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RUR-5_ASROC fits the period their supposed torps are coming from...

Yep that is the classical definition

Prob not yet, COVID, autumn weather and series of events (anniversary, haloween, black friday, cristmas) will prob keep the numbers and spending up no matter what WG does with subs - for a while... IMO the player numbers wont start to drop into low digits till after that say January, then it will be interesting to watch if they continue with this...

Yep