Zerstoeroer

​Welcome to marketing 101: make hyperbole statements about a product's distinctive particularities in order to sell more units. Did you expect them to write something along the lines of: "well, HE isn't all that important, but we equipped the ship with HE shells nonetheless"? Seriously...

​Oh get off your high horse. While most of my chat bans are the results of my flaming (and I can accept those), I have been banned for responding to a divisioned flamer myself. Too bad he and his 2 friends all reported me. And I am most certainly not the only one who has experienced this kind of ganging up. Now to your rhetorical question, let me rephrase it. In your language then: I am asking as a games developer why the hell should I spend time and money creating something that is only required to address the fact that someone can't keep his skill level in the tier it belongs instead of ruining even high tier games. Because these potatoes are paying customers? Fair point. Ever thought about the possibility that flamers are paying customers as well?​ So why not at least refine the punishment system (and while we are at it, increase the possibility to effectively communicate strategic information to your team while chat banned instead of punishing the entire team with the ban) to satisfy both sides to a certain degree?

Ich kanns nicht mehr hören. Das Problem sind nicht die "BBabies" oder "BB Luschen", sondern die Tatsache, dass viele DD-Spieler komplette Volltrottel sind. Die einen yolon mal schön rein, die anderen campen hinter den BBs herum, nutzen ihre Kanonen nicht und torpen nur. Wie gesagt,das Spiel ist voll von diesen hirnamputierten Armleuchtern. Spiel mal einen Abend lang den Großen Kurfürsten und auch dir wird ein Licht aufgehen.

Please tell us how deleting other BBs in your impenetrable Gneisenau has worked out so far. Got devastating strikes against broadside targets at 15km range? And can you reliably repeat that feat? All you people calling German BBs newb friendly are cracking me up. So German BBs are not punished as heavily for showing more broadside, while they do have to show it in order to bring at least 2/3 of their guns to bear. In the meantime, most Japanese and American BBs from T7+ can just slightly angle or bow tank and bring 2/3 of their firepower to bear while being extremely tanky and very hard to deal damage on, bouncing most (especially the totally overpowered German 38cm) shells.

​Are we playing the same game? A BB has no weakness? How about torps dealing 10-20k each? CVs being able to simply delete non-AA-specced BBs of same or lower tier (one of the problems is that AA spec counters too hard but without AA spec the defense is too weak). DDs and CA/CLs ambushing you with torps or spamming you with HE out of stealth while you're trying to dodge the torp soup and dealing with 2-3 fires at the same time? BBs are more forgiving than cruisers, I give you that. But a well played cruiser as support to a BB is a nightmare to any opposing BB and NOT easy to just delete. The first weeks of ranked season 5 at rank 5-1 ( when all the unicums were still playing there) also showed me that cruisers are not the easy prey people on this forum make them out to be. It's just that in random battles so many people like to sail in straight lines or turn into reloaded BB guns for easy citadels. I recently restarted playing cruisers again and I'm having no issues in my Königsberg, even when uptiered. BBs punish you hard, but at the same time they are the easiest targets to hit and put fires on.

Das Problem beim Kurfürsten ist imo, dass er auf Spotting und DD-Unterstützung angewiesen ist, sobald (mehrere) gegnerische Torpedo-DDs im Spiel sind. Ich hatte schon so viele Spiele, wo ich gar nichts richtig machen und tanken konnte, weil da 2-4 Shimakazes und Kageros rumtuckerten, gegen die meine DDs und Kreuzer nichts effektives unternahmen. Nichtmal korrektes spotting, so dass wenigstens ich darauf hätte schießen können. Und das teil ist so unwendig, dass man selbst mit Hydro einfach nicht immer all diesen Torps ausweichen kann und somit offensives Fahren in den Nahkampf Selbstmord zu sein scheint. Darunter leidet dann leider auch mein Schaden bzw meine Stats (die ich doch verbessern will :/ ). Bei der Bismarck ist es gar kein Problem und bei FdG gehts grade noch, aber 1km+ Wendekreis bei dem schwachen Torpedogürtel sind dann anscheinend doch zu viel. Kanns kaum noch erwarten, dass die neuen IJN-DDs kommen... Gehts anderen hier auch so?

We had this discussion before, GeneralK: you suck yourself, quite badly. As evidenced by your hidden stats.

​I tried ranked again today, after a 2 week break. Rank 5-1 bracket. 25% win after 12 games, which are filled with the kind of highly skilled players. I am the only constant they say?The first 8 games I lost despite an average damage of 80k and 1.0 kills. Then I started sucking myself due to rage, but my teams also remained horrible. What can I say, it has become completely unplayable for any sane individual which is not at super-unicum level and cannot carry 3-5 complete morons. I only managed to retain 2 stars, so I lost 7 of them. Most players I double checked at shipcomrade have a <50% win rate and 450+ games played. Seriously, r5-1 has a lower skill level now than 10-6 4 weeks ago. What a [edited]joke. The fact that people with less than 50% win could even get to rank 1 is hilarious. Skill Skill Skill. So that's it for me, I'm out and I will never play ranked past r5 again, ever. The rewards are trash compared to the time and energy I'd have to invest in order to make it, let alone the health aspects. So, a big [edited]YOU to Wargaming for their failed matchmaking which even fails at ranked. You guys have no respect for your customers, I can tell.

I voted no, Tier 9/10 is atrocious to play right now thanks to all the garbage players playing it, trying to farm Takao. WG EU is a mess.

Tier 9 and 10 have gone to crap, there never have been as many low IQ cretins in those tiers as there are now. Thanks for ruining high tier for 2 entire months, Wargaming Europe. Which shouldn't come as a surprise, since every goddamn potato is now forced into 2 tiers instead of 4. As soon as I have the Takao, I will not play high tier anymore, until that event is over. And since I won't need a premium account for T1-7, I might as well not get one. Thanks for saving me some money, WG! Your marketing guys are geniuses

I just killed a full hp Iowa at 18km range with 2 salvos. Obviously it was sailing broadside and then slightly angled, which does not prevent the Dankness from happening. I do not understand cruiser players who moan about their survivability at high tiers. I started out with German cruisers and my survivability in the Roon - my highest tier cruiser - was 48%, which is on par with my Bismarck (gotta rebuy that beautiful CA). Cruiser are more fragile, but they can escape most precarious situations using stealth, which BBs can't. The only thing that's missing right now IMO is that T8 cruisers should all have a heal just like Atago.

Destroyers have no citadels, but Russian destroyers have thicker armor, making them easier to penetrate. That's also why a BB should always try to shoot at stuff like a Khaba within say 15km range. They wreck your dds, but a BBs AP can penetrate them much easier. And one penetrating shell does 3,33 times the damage of one overpenetrating. Which means that you only need a couple of penetrations to sink a Kiev. It most likely was a mix of pens and overpens, the ig display is that bugged. Why do I say it's impossible to land almost every single shell? We both know German dispersion/accuracy in this game. Add to that such a small target at high speed and it's pretty much impossible to pull off such a feat two times in a row. It's much more likely that you had 2-3 penetrations and some overpens. Out of curiosity, did it register 10 hits?

Or maybe you should realize that the hit figures provided within the game are false all the time. I get citadels displayed as overpens on the regular. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. For 2 Salvoes of Overpens to kill a Kiev it would need you to hit every single shell, which is pretty much impossible. I can basically guarantee you that you were getting citadels or at least penetrations displayed as overpens and that the Kiev was sailing broadside like a scrub if you could do that 2 times in a row.

Where is the hardcap on CVs? Because the way I see it, the only way to get a balanced match is to completely exclude that (at high tier) brokenly overpowered class. You geniuses are writing all that stuff about BBs being op while a CV at tier 8+ just shits on everything in its path and skilled CV players ruin games like nothing else. Then there are the 5 DDs per game, again especially at high tiers, making it fun and engaging. I just love those games with 3 Shimakazes per side. And you people really complain about BBs? Rofl.

​I'm sure you're having fun at high tier with all the [edited] out and about ruining almost every game in order to grind Takao.

Am I the only one who thinks that we actually got the better deal? We get less incompetent players play an Atago, which can only benefit everyone else at high tier matches. I am a BB main, so I could just sit back and citadel them all and have a good time. But I genuinely think that this is for the better. I know that when I got my APR Kirishima or whatever the name, I shouldn't have played such a ship, because I had only experience in cruisers back then. Players at T9/10 should at least in theory have experienced multiple ship classes and be a tad more competent. Perhaps T8+ would have been better, I admit. Edit: and 50 wins actually is no problem at all. At 50% win it will take about 100 games within 2 months. For such a fine ship for free that's nothing imo.

http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/kicksomearsnova/ I guess they will be very similar?

I just had a game where I was bottom tier with my Bismarck. 1/3 of us pushed for caps, the rest stayed at the bottom and during a sniping shootout moved into the bottom right corner. All of those players had t8+ ships and you are telling me that I should point out to them that we need to cap stuff? That reversing at J8 is not going to win a game? Those people tried? Yeah, maybe if their IQ was 70, then one could argue that they tried. And yes, I did complain after getting killed by focus fire. How can you not complain to all those idiots who are ruining a game?

Yes, it would only mask the real problem: that the average player in this game is horrible and unintelligent. Which is also why WoWs will never be a seriously competitive game due to the fact that these horrible players are a huge chunk of their paying playerbase financing the game. Which means it has to be kind of balanced around them.

Cruisers are neither underpowered nor are battleships overpowered. Most players of this game ( I reckon about 2/3) are total garbage, unintelligent and untalented and just suck. No anger, just the facts. It's the worst performing gaming community I've ever witnessed. Every second game feels like I've just been teamed up with a special school class on a field trip. And that's pretty much why people think that cruisers are underpowered, because they are less forgiving towards all these super morons sucking their way up the tiers. But even the BBs do not make them perform much better. Which is why they will never be nerfed and you guys should just give up on your futile mission. In the meantime, a cruiser played by a competent player is by no means easier to kill than a BB. If anything, T10 cruisers are a tad too strong.

There already is too much HE spam going on in this game and, contrary to my earlier expectations, I feel that WG has done a decent job at trying to introduce something new. They just need to standardize this kind of AP shell or just avoid to make an unstandardized clusterfuck between multiple lines. These ships are for skilled players and I see no problem with that. And IMO any player can improve on them and learn a lot about gameplay in general. Because you have such a short range, you have to get close to the enemy, but you can only do that by positioning yourself properly, paying attention to where enemy capital ships are aiming, learning to use cover to maximize stealth firing time, not turning into the enemy uncovered (as so many cruiser players do, but the RN CAs do not easily forgive such an error), etc. By the way, it's interesting how well the Belfast is performing considering the fact that most Fiji players right now are experienced and above average players ( so the stats are very likely to drop in a few weeks) while Belfast is a premium accessible to anyone. Just take Tirpitz/Bismarck as a comparison and it becomes apparent. And people say it's not OP

Just don't waste your planes and wait for opportunities? I mean if you know that those cruisers can murder them, why go in there? I don't charge 3+ ships in my Gneisenau just because it got torps. If your planes are gone, nobody will take you seriously anymore, but as long as they're there, they pose a threat and restrict movement for other ships without such strong AA. I'm no expert, but at least some very good CV players I've seen play at high tier seem to wait for the opportunity instead of unnecessarily wasting their planes. And then they crapdamage on you :/

I was angry from previous games at that time, which certainly is not a good recipe for success as I readily admit. You think that you see the same crapas in previous games, expecting a crushing defeat and it turns into some kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. Based on my own experience and recent stats, I don't see how I am the problem, though.

Well observed. I am between two jobs and have too much free time on my hands, which is probably what allowed me to play too many games and get too stressed out over my complete inability to change the course of so many matches where players completely failed as described (and anger causes you to make more mistakes yourself, of course). It was a mistake to write postings in anger yesterday and it was not the first time this has happened to me on this forum. I now decided to just stop when I feel the game affecting me in a negative way, turning me into a person I am not in real life and which don't want to be. I still stand with the quintessence of my postings, but want to stress that I was not writing about players who are new or just bad and eager to learn. EsaTuunanen summed up pretty much my stance much calmer and better.

I'd rather queue longer than have a game that not only wastes my time, but also ruins my mood and angers me. I'd also like a restriction to higher tiers based on some metric like WTR. This may sound arrogant, but I simply don't want to dea withl people who are too dumb to figure out how capping works and instead are circling the map border. In any kind of MM system good players will have to carry more in order to make the game fair for all. The purpose is not to make the Super Unicum have a blast killing idiots but to provide a good gaming experience to the maximum amount of players possible. No need to assume anything about the general skill level, every word I wrote is true. In almost every game I can witness the mentioned intellectual vacuum. And I am pretty sure that you know exactly what I am writing about, yet you still kind of refuse to acknowledge that these idiots are dumb af. I am rank 4 right now (dropped back to 4 and stopped ranking) and I reached rank 5 within the first weak without trouble. At rank 5-1 there is much less yoloing and map circling than in random matches. Sides collapsing is not really an observable issue due to the limit of 2 caps. Steamrolls generally are rare in my experience. I never played WOT so I can't comment on that. What I know from friends who play it is that the game is suffering from the same issue with dumb players. Welcome to f2p?