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I don't know about you guys, but I love that change and just hope that less people will play the blantantly overpowered t8-10 CVs, which really take no real skill to crap on about any ship from complete safety. With a high tier CV in game only one or perhaps two players have fun: the one(s) playing a CV. I basically feel like throwing up every time I see a Hankuryu with its billions of airplanes just shitting over my ship. Triple torps, oh the skill that takes. Flooding? Oh shi- let's repair, wait there is another triple incoming, the RNG super-skill-bombers which give me 4 fires. Wow, I made it with half of my hp gone, time to repair. Oh wait, there he is coming again with fully replenished squadrons. And the best part is: even 3-4 ships will not stop him shitting on one of them unless you get an AA Desmoines or so. So in conclusion, I hope that they will never fix it. You wanna "pwn", then pay up!

There is a reason: this game has by far the worst and most unskilled playerbase I have ever encountered (did not play WOT). Most players - and it has to be said even though the truth hurts - are braindead morons with a below-average IQ. They are too dumb to understand their ship or its role, they cannot aim and they lemming train like idiots. They hide behind you even though they're 2 tiers higher, etc. When I ask those people, they say that they have a life and don't have the time to play that often. Which makes total sense when you factor in their 1,5k+ games. That "life" really prevents them from watching a couple tutorial videos instead of ruining 3 more games they could play in the same time. And from friends I know that WOT is just the same. I don't know why Wargaming is attracting so many sub-standard players, but it's more than vexing.

your eyes cannot determine whether it's 44 or 45° so you are simply wrong about that.

it doesn't just reduce the effort, it's flat out superior to eye judgement of any level. It's cheating and nothing else.

I just played against it (in total around the 10 times) and calling it brokenly overpowered would be an understatement. It doesn't look like the devs are actually playing this game themselves, they seem to have no clue at all. If this ship really makes it live, it will either be on sale only once (most disgusting way of grabbing money / p2w ever) or they will have no nerf it, because this ship has the potential to completely ruin tier 7.

Where is that free stuff?! Because all I got were goddamn flags which I needed for more of the unfun ranked games. I could kinda understand the point about the rewards if the entire process was fun. But ranked is no fun, it sucks. The meta is pure crapand boring as hell. Oh, the dd just went in and died within seconds, there goes your star. It's like work and for work all those flags and 3500 doubloons are a joke. I earn more in half an hour of real life work which is more fun than ranked to be perfectly honest. Also, at work i don't have to fear regressing and having worked for hours with no or negative progress. And what does playing ranked on a weekend have to do with anything? There are no weekend warriors at rank 5 to 1. Why I think they would not care? Well, aside from all the other crap, let's talk about pay to win in ranked at tier 8, i.e. the Atago and Kutusow in comparison to say the Prinz Eugen. The latter got the shaft because it's a carbon copy of the Hipper and they could not possibly say that it's just different while maintaining that the premium cruisers are slightly weaker versions (when everybody knows that Atago and Kutusow are completely overpowered compared to all other t8 cruisers). One customer paid the same amount of money and got a vastly inferior ship. In fact, people get flamed for joining ranked in a Hipper or Eugen. And you want to tell me that they care? Ok.

I am glad that at least you had a good time. I for one will withdraw all funding from this game as the consequence of my experience in ranked, especially this evening. Wargaming does not seem to care about filtering the sheer number of individuals of inferior intellect even from ranked 5-1. I know, my ranked stats look ridiculous, but why even bother when some dumb as [edited]clown (it's mostly DD) thinks that it's a good idea to yolo, ruining the game. And I haven't even started on this great great great smoke meta. You sit in smoke or you're focus fired and dead with 5 fires going on. Oh the skill it takes to sit in invisibility, amazing. Honestly, WG does not seem to value or appreciate its customers. So I am very sorry WG, you can keep your dumb as [edited]pirate flag and the 3500 doubloons - for which any decently educated person doesn't have to work more than 30-60 minutes - and suck my.

It's not about ease, the whole ranked meta is a goddamn joke. If there is a CV you can pray that yours is better, because that brokenly overpowered class dominates the 7v7 even more than random. Then even rank5-1 are full of complete morons. Especially destroyers and cruisers. Why? Because it's much much easier to get #1 spot in a losing team as a capping dd or ca. I can't count the number of games where they threw it away within minutes and then the game was over within 5 mins or so (complete overrun). I just went afk or flamed. Why bother play that kind of crap.

Both sides are wrong here in my opinion. German BBs are easier to penetrate, at least with German guns. To penetrate an angled North Carolina or Amagi you need better aiming and it's still harder and will bounce and overpen more often. That said, there is no way that someone can reliably land 10-15k salvoes on a Bismarck, especially an angled one.

Any TK with even a modest level of intelligence would just shoot back and kill himself rather than give you the credits. And good job, you just created a disadvantage for your team.

Or - god forbid - they could make them into a class that takes actual skill and does not magically have the power to sink any ship the player wishes. As they are now, the less CVs there are the better.

If you actually enjoy the dumb AF smoke-BB and torp meta, then it really is. Otherwise it has been the most painful pile of crap I've experienced in this game so far. Camping reversing BBs, invisfire He spam, a billion times smoke. Great fun. And in all honesty, personal performance is completely irrelevant. Look at my WTR yesterday (when I started at R5) and today and the respective win rates. 7 games played for nothing while performing better than yesterday (where I got 2 stars). That's more than 2 hours for nothing. Seriousy, [edited]you, wargaming.

You are indeed in good company (edited, one really shouldn't post angered). The amount of clowns even at rank 10 and lower is ridiculous, they're ruining the entire experience. My win rate has turned abysmal and the only reason I don't get demoted is that I mostly come out top on the score board. This season so far has been a goddamn joke and completely fails to eliminate bad players. I have to correct myself on that, sadly.

It is indeed a world apart, but in a positive sense. It's a good thing that DD+Kutsow smoke suckage don't dominate anymore.

It took me 25 games to reach rank 10 this time. Last season - my first one when I was quite new - it took me 125 games. Even if you factor in that I started on rank 17 this season, there is only one fixed value in the equation: me. Random matchmaking, my teammates' skills, etc. are all random variables that should even out over time. The massive difference in my own skill is evident to me and I now can even carry some games. Ranked does have random variables, but skill is indeed a factor in how fast you can progress. Stats on the other hand are not necessarily equal to skill. I've met a few players with good stats during this season who performed quite poorly. Upon further inspection it became evident that they got good stats for an average tier of 4-6. Doesn't necessarily mean that you will be good at tier 8, sadly.

Ich würde dir raten, erst mit der Scharnhorst zu spielen, sobald du Tier 7 freigeschaltet hast. Das dauert wirklich nicht allzu lange und bis dahin sammelst du Erfahrung bezüglich der Meta und des Zielens (gerne auch ein paar Guides dazu auf YT anschauen) und das Ding sollte so dann viel runder laufen. Wir reden hier von 100-200 Spielen je nach Skill und ohne Premium-Account (mit gehts noch deutlich schneller), also durchaus verkraftbar. Neben dem eigenen Frust sollte man auch immer daran denken, was man seinen Mitspielern zumutet, während man mangels Übung und Erfahrung einfach schlecht spielt.

The good news is that those people fleeing to the map border will eventually run out of money to maintain that play-style in high tier games, because they are definitely losing money as well, most likely even more.

Die tolle Krake kann sich der entsprechende Spieler ja ausdrucken und auf die Toilette hängen. Außer ihm interessiert die nämlich wirklich niemanden. Generell sehe ich das Problem allerdings nicht. Mitspieler mit dem IQ einer ausgetrockenten Klappstulle habe ich andauernd, dafür kann die Auszeichnung "Kraken freigelassen" nichts. Solche Idioten finden im Schnitt immer Wege, anderen das Spiel zu versauen. Andererseits hättet auch Ihr, die ihr alle viel zu weit weg wart, euch fragen sollen, was IHR falsch gemacht habt. Ohne eure eigenen Fehler im Beobachten der Mini-Map wärt ihr nie auf diesen angesprochenen Spieler angewiesen gewesen. Mir werden regelmäßig Kills "geklaut". Welcher BB-Fahrer kennt sie nicht, die Doppelzitadelle, bei der das Opfer dann noch 1k hp hat. Andererseits habe ich aber auch schon unzählige Schiffe mit wenigen HP "übernommen" und dann versenkt. Tough shi-, im Zweifelsfall finde ich es besser, den Gegner schnell versenkt und dessen Feuerkraft somit ausgeschaltet zu haben als sich dann zur Not mehrere Salven an ihm abzuarbeiten, nur damit man ja selbst den Kill bekommt.

Das ist jetzt nur eine Mutmaßung bezüglich möglicher Ursachen, ich bin bisher von beiden Schwestern nur die Bismarck gefahren: meiner Erfahrung nach, auch beim Beschuss von Bismarck/Tirpitz, kann man sie frontal zu weich angewinkelt sogar in die Zitadelle treffen, wenn die Granaten frontal angewinkelt direkt vor oder neben dem ersten Turm einschlagen. Auch normaler Penetrationsschaden ist beim zu weichen Anwinkeln bei etwas höherem Zielen möglich. Da hat aber aufgrund der kleinen Fläche der Verwundbarkeit aber auch sehr viel mit Glück zu tun. Und aufgrund der Sekundärlastigkeit der Bismarck fährt man diese ja auch in der Regel nicht direkt frontal sondern neigt dazu, nicht genügend angewinkelt zu fahren, da man die Sekundärgeschütze zur Geltung zu bringen versucht. Das ist natürlich eine Einladung für gute Schützen. Und die Amagi schießt leider auch noch ziemlich genau. Etwas off-topic: Das mit dem höheren Zielen klappt übrigens auch bei den anderen Tier 8 BBs. Anstatt sich aufzuregen, dass die NC gut angewinkelt alles abprallen lässt, einfach mal etwas höher zielen. Seit ich das mache, haue ich denen auch gerne mal angewinkelt 10+k Schellen rein. Generell würde ich sagen, dass einem gute Schützen in so gut wie jedem Winkel Schellen reindonnern können, man kann nur Minimieren. Zum Glück sind die meisten BB-Spieler eher nicht so gut im Zielen

Except that Rodney, Norfolk and Dorsetshire, just to name examples, carried and fired much larger torpedoes. Anyway, this isn't even meant to be about the Bismarck, my point was supposed to be that there is no basis in reality for stating that the KGV class would be equal or even superior to other tier 8 Battleships except for the armament.

Here we go again: Bismarck outdated, KGV superior. The RN fanboys are out in force it seems. But all your jingoistic theorycraftig doesn't change that Bismarck acquired her targets faster in both engagements with KGV class vessels. She also took more shelling punishment without sinking from it than any other Battleship in history. The KGV would have survived all that? Sure, and thats probably also why her superior protection sent the PoW to the bottom of the sea after just four torpedo hits while Bismarck took even more without sinking. But don't let actual historical events stand in the way of theorycraftig.

The response to the Bismarck was actually the hastily designed HMS Vanguard. The idea was to pool resources otherwise used on some of the Lion-class BBs into a single ship incorporating the already existing 15" artillery. Still didn't make it in time though. KGV would have been an extremely poor response, being inferior in almost every aspect. In my mind, there can only be one Tier8: Vanguard. The existing WW2 ships were just not good enough for tier 8. Most would fit tier7 very well though. So either Vanguard is tier 8 and 9/10 will be Lion or other paper ships. Or Wargaming pulls off some imaginary upgrade magic on Nelson- or KGV-class. In that case, my guess would be Nelson as the higher tier because WG - for some unknown reason - thinks that the player base is too dumb to adapt to fluctuating caliber sizes and there were no plans to upgrade any KGV-vessel to higher caliber artillery as far as I know.

Shoot at DDs (as long as no other ship is showing a reckless broadside). Seriously, so few BBs are doing that, even though DDs are the greatest threat next to CVs - not necessarily by damage done but by blocking your freedom of movement, potentially rendering you more vulnerable to BB fire. No need to do massive damage with each salvoe, even the pressure you put on the DD is enough to help your own team's DDs. If you can't frequently hit a DD within 15 km range that is preoccupied with one ore more of your teammates, you need to learn to aim.

Meine voll ausgebaute Gneisenau hat mit Rudder Shift-Modul 11,8s Ruderstellzeit. Du solltest mal auf den B-Rumpf schauen, der verbessert die Stellzeit bereits auf irgendwas bei 14,x Sekunden. Hättest dich mal vorher informieren sollen, bevor du die Credits nicht zuerst in den B-Rumpf gebuttert hast, der ein massives Upgrade darstellt.

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