Odo_Toothless

1. You can switch from elevated view to normal view, and back if You want to shoot ships behind islands (only when spotter plane is active). Some of us still have a problem hitting in elevated view even after 20k games and why I need elevated wiew when shooting close target anyway ? 2. Symbols are pointing for sure, but with lines I can tell in milisecond, how battle is going and how to steer my planes to have better drop. (why there is no binocular zoom in plane view ?). Without I often didn't know when looking only on minimap, where a ship is going. Especially after a few beers ;-) 3. Having always good weather without any not needed visuals it's not only a eye sight thing. I see perfectly, but having the same weather makes my game more comfortable. Ex. hated space battles, becouse I was getting sick watching at 3D space with no water. Now this not a problem any more. 4. This radial blur made me harder to assess situation and I was dizzy when flying with boost and this has nothing with eyes too, but rather with my brain. So for some those thing are not improvement, but for some - are. Especially when playing on small monitors or having strange sensations from some effects. And not being young makes things more complicated too. But probably You are right - generally those are cosmetic changes.

Most modifications are giving You some advantage. Even moving things in battle UI to make it more clear and more fitted to Your needs gives an advantage. But nobody is forbidding You to do that. If somebody refuse to make his game more comfortable, that it's his choice. Why complain then ? Personally, without many UI changes, vanilla game for me is almost unplayable on my 1600x1200 monitor. Following this path of "any advantage", all my mods should not be legalized by WG: 1. My camera mod is giving you an option to switch Your view from spotter plane camera to normal, if you had trouble with elevated view. 2. My minimap mod (like AutoSpy map which is very customizable to any of Your needs) is showing You course off all enemy visible ships on minimap, to make easier judgment what is going on in battle and helps in CV play 3. Weather mod is setting up one customized weather on any map/scenario as You like 4. Blur removal when using planes boost is a great help for people who feeled confused by this effect. etc. But those and other things should be already in game. Devs know about it, so they let modders to do that, having less work to do.

Both Aslain and Modstation include mods which was checked and officialy approved. And so far nobody pointed any mod for WoWs, which is free and prohibited. (not speaking about those messing with shaders like Reshade) You know why ? Becouse it seems there is no such mod avaiable anyway.

And this ESL is free one ? Ok it's anti-cheat program used in WoT tournaments, but it was ever used in WoWs ? Becose my question was about free mods from last two years in WoWs, not payable obvious cheats. You insist thet somebody was banned for "X" on minimap in WoWs, when this mod was always legal as a part of ALT minimap mod, done be a person which developed still working Navigator mod. Devs was asked about "x" many times on different forums, and they response was one: it's ok. In different situation it would never be implemented in a game. I am out of this discussion. If people want to belive that thay are "wrong" free working mods avaiable now (not external payed programs), let them believe. But from I know, those who used such deliberately, always tried to insist, that they got false positive scan and have used just mods from ex. Aslain pack.

I asked about illegal mods for which You could be banned, not feelings about that or other mod. So Your answer has nothing to do with my question ...

I am sorry about what mod we are talking ?

Those all mods was never illegal. Still searching for such except obvious aiming ones.

Standard is not. Specials X's like IX premiums, have -50% less cost build into a ship without any camo. And they comes with free camo which gives another -50% reduction, which makes rather impossible to loose credits even in a worst game (by the way many players like me, don't bought any X perma camo for 5k doublons). And in any moment they can be turned into full premiums for free, when WG decide to throw them into a shop (which is possible at any moment if they want to, like they did with IX-s). This is confirmed info by WG reps.

Ok - I understand. Your point is that mods/or things in game can give some advantage, not matter they are legal. Yea - but anybody can use them. So far in terms of illegal mods, we still don't know any free working one. Have a good day too :-)

So it's already in normal game from many, many patches. Introduced by WG one year ago. Am I missing something ? I understand, that it could be saw as official cheat, but we are not talking about things already implemented in game. And of course mods can give You some advantage, but everybody can use them at will. Anyway most mods is changing things which should be long ago in game itself. Here. And You can change this sign to whatever You want using mods.

X mark the spot ? You mean marks on water, where ship was last spotted ? Didn't saw such for free download as a mod. As i know it's a part of payed one cheat (program which operates in memory, leaving game files intact), which is happy banned by WG en masse. I know the same legal, already implemented in game. Just block You guns on spot by Ctrl+X. If You are reffering to a mod which showed where your guns are pointing at minimap, then WG implemented it into a game long ago. Visible smoke circles was always legal and was implemented in game too :-) Navigator ? It's only telling of angling of enemy ship and it was always legal. It's both in Aslain and Modstation.

Ok Which mod (not payable aim cheats) in WOWs was giving such unfair advantage and was banned in last two years. Do You know any ? I don't, so place tell me its name. I asked my friend which knows a lot about it, he don't know too. btw. this is a ongoing unofficial thread about bans for aim cheating in WoWs. 644 pages about how WG found they are cheating and banned even all accounts, no matter they cheated only on one of them. And many tried just explain himself as innocent to get his ban removed. But they paid for such a program knowing what they would do with it. This is not even a mod any more, which is installed in game directory, so all the game files are original.

As a modder i can only say, that I tried almost every avaible mod from last three years from all resources i could find. To learn what it is doing and how it's working. Bear in mind, that before how mod is registered as official, somebody must do it. So far I don't know any forbidden mods except payed ones cheats and some programs like Reshade (all those are detected and banned). There was such unwanted one: "Sauron Eye", but WG simply patched a game, so it stopped working. Why would I create a mod, which will give others upper hand, and will be very fast included into forbidden category ? It's a waste of time then. Sometimes I see that some effects of mod are close to giving too much advantage, so i will not publish them. Personally i don't need any cheats too, to play well and have satisfaction from this. Fair play - as I read many comments is a motto of others modders too. This is hobby.

I'm waiting for glourious Soviet cruisers and wanted to show my appreciation ;-) . When in Rome, do as the Romans do, so I became stalinium Comrade :-P. With help of other workers, we must clear the sky for them and sunk those bloody Enterprises for good. At least for the time when Red CV-s will be introduced

But stats are not lying ? You are still doing twice a damage/kills in the CV then in DD, while spotting everybody on the map and denying capping (I have the same thing). Something is for sure very broken then. Of course WG will do whatever they want, but playerbase should take a clear stand about that. Or CV should be a damage dealers, or spotting machines. If they stay in current role, then damage part should be nerfed to the ground ex: 6k for bomb 2,5k for torp. And very good game for them should look like: ex. 100k - 1-2 kills and nobody even unicuum should have ability to farm more, becouse it would be impossible. Second thing - CV survability is very high. Make them very easy to kill for normal ships, so every mistake they do, could be punished very hard. Like DD are punished all the time. So let's them burn like candles and give them citadels like barn.

This is very rude and offending to other players. We all want to make this game better and ballanced, not toxic, but some players just want to brag how they can farm potatos in their OP class. And what is point in that ? Deliberately ruin the whole game for private amusement ? If the best players like You stated: CV are OP, so they should be nerfed and You know about it well.

So Your statement is that CV should be a farming machine to be interesting to play, while other classes like DD must be satisfied with just suriving this mess and doing half of CV damage ? So why people are still playing DD, while CV are doing their role much better ?

So You want farm as You wish while making game uniterested for others ? Ex. DD was made for spotting and as counter to BB. As it is now, they are not a spotters and not a real counter. Stats are clearly showing that. While CV is overspotting and making two times more DMG then them. Where is a ballance in that ? Even after such nerf, those who like to sail in CV, will still be sailing in them, like DD players are doing now. But they will no longer ability to easy peasy killing everything on their path, ending games with ex. 150k and 5 kills.

You said already that CV are OP in good hands and I agree too. But how to resolve this problem ? As I read WG tested just now in ST blog a scenario when CV are spotting only for themselves, and it failed. So the only reasonable solution is or making AA much stronger or just cut their damage potential in half. Ex. one Midway torp - 2,5k. Average X tier DD is: while average CV: CV should be nerfed to the level of DD then and even unicuums cannot farm. They are already over spotting. Problem solved.

This is all wrong. Nobody is checking every mod version and i always used mods from any avaiable source without problems Just didn't used any cheats. As a modder I modify many files or old mods, checking results while trying to do something new on a daily basis. Crashes, strange game behaviour etc. is normal thing in the process. If the system was so strict, I could not make any mod then. And do You know any working mod which is free and it's a cheat ? Give me a single name. btw. You know why people get a ban ? I read a lot about that on many forums, even in those about cheating. Users was banned after many months after using such programs, when system checked thier logs. Some played with cheats on one account, but other accounts was banned too. So You could be clean now, but was not clean before. And even some programs like those monitoring Your computer specs in game, could probably be registered by system as unwanted modifications. This is for sure true for ones messing with shaders like: Reshade etc.

XaXa. I am just starting to learn this class and even after many bad games i have 77k 1.25 kill on Implacable on average. So if the potato, which started not long ago can do that, how much I will farm soon ? A lot, becouse I have more and more games like 100-150k in her. But You already know how much CV potential is ... Like it or not - nerfs will come. It's too easy to be good in CV.

Your general points are invalid, as even El2aZer replied to me: And You know, I am doing in CV better and better too, so my stats started to outperform BB ones as Yours. And I never played CV before. Conclusion ? As better players stated already CV are OP, when even potato like me can have good stats.

You mean blur when using boost ? This is already removed in my mod:Post Processing changes which is avaiable in Modstation too.

Of course. DD on average can't kill single BB, the best are close to that. So Cv DMG potential should be cutted accordingly (about 50% as looking at stats of the best players), to make it impossible to have games like 200k and 5 kills. average top 5%

So it seems You are right and they must be reworked to close a gap between bad and good players. Probably making their gameplay dumber, but cutting their DMG potential severly. If they role on battliefield is close to DD - providing spotting, which they do the best, WG much strive to cut their DMG potential to DD level. Max 60-70K on average, no matter how good You play. Now I understand Your point.