IanH755

Hi there, I've played nothing but Co-Op since the PT went live and whilst I enjoyed it it has some issues. Here's my thoughts - General The Bot matches at T4-5 were fantastic and I had a lot of fun. The Bot matches at T6-7 were difficult, sometimes far too difficult and the credits only just covered playing. The Bot matches at T8 were a disaster, both for the lack of credits and for the enemy torp spamming (counted over 30 torps in the water at one point). Extend waiting times to remove the need for friendly bots which are more of a hindrance. AI The AI needs a "skill" upgrade, all they do is YOLO straight at you so you're reduced to running away whilst firing HE (boring) as AP does nothing or turning to face them and getting torp spammed to death, neither is fun. I've rarely had to use AP as 90% of the AI is never broadside unless they see a DD when they go mental and forget everything else in the attempt to kill the DD. AI Routes are identical so once you've played a Map 2-3 times you know where the AI will come from, what route they take, when/where they "spawn" etc which gets boring very quickly. Maps Strait - Too easy to be honest but my favourite map. The Southern group needs to spawn when the Northern group is down to it's last 3-4 ships. Fault Line - Fantastic at T4/5, a nightmare at T6+ with DD's and CA's torp spamming everywhere and zero cover. Estuary - Again, too difficult at higher Tiers as you are forced to stay close to your own Cap (either one) and you get focused by 4-5 ships with nowhere to escape to. Far too many higher tier DD's too. Improvements You've got to give higher tiers more credits if you want T7+ players to have a go, it's just not worth the loss of money to play otherwise. YOLO AI needs a buff with more Routes adding for more variety. At higher tiers (T7+) the enemy team needs to be 1-2 ships of the same tier 3-4 of a lower tier and the rest of 2 tiers lower otherwise it's just too difficult.

My previous "undiplomatic thread" was removed last weekend but I feel that the basic premise is valid. There are a lot of people who can/do only play at the weekends and, of these, I believe that there will be a number of those who are less "skilled" than the average player and this leads to a situation where it "feels" like I lose more games at the weekend than during the week and often my WR stats back this up. Now this thread isn't a slight to those players, this thread is about whether there *is* a difference in team performance or not. I mean, I'm an average player with an average 51% WR overall so it's not like I'm able to carry a team of lesser performing team-mates and looking my stats for last weekend my WR was 35% and mid week was 56% (I think) and it's been like that for a high percentage of weekends for me. Strangely this particular weekend has been better as I've played very early in morning (10-11am GMT) and did really well against teams of (obvious to me) "weekend teams". Now what do I mean by "weekend teams"? Well I tend to notice that at the weekend there is a higher percentage of teams being wiped out but only killing <5 of the enemy, which is an indication of poor team performance, rather than those matches where the final tally is down to the last 5 per team for example. These still happen mid-week but the "rate" at which they occur seems higher at the weekend. When I'm on one these teams being wiped out I notice a few things - lack of a plan, lack of comms, yolo'ing, 4 DD's going for 1 cap (I'm looking at you Estury!) then giving some salty chat if you ask any of them to CAP etc. If I see those things I can usually say it'll be a difficult game with a surprising accuracy rate! Again this can and does happen mid-week but the *rate* at which it happens at the weekend feels higher. Now one of things I notice is that people will say "it should even out" and that "better players should actually win more" but someone else posted a very good analogy that I'll borrow "Good players are the Sergeants and the poorer players are the Privates. All it takes is a few Sergeants to organise the privates and the team will do well" only what I find is that there's a team with 90% Sergeants versus a team with 90% Privates most of the time and if you're on the Sergeant team it's almost an insta-win! So those are my thoughts, what are yours? Do you think the teams are worse/better/same at the weekends? Does your WR suffer at the weekend? Is there any difference at all in your weekend to mid-week matches?

Thanks for they reply, lots of that says "Push" yet I find that, with poor teams, when anyone does Push to do any of those things above, they aren't supported and thats where the problem is for me - getting a poor team to "do" something as opposed to doing either nothing or acting alone.

Quoted from the OP which you haven't read - "looking my stats for last weekend my WR was 35% and mid week was 56% (I think) and it's been like that for a high percentage of weekends for me. Strangely this particular weekend has been better " Yet my "personal" stats don't show that, they show I'm still average. I will agree that however that, being an average player, it is difficult to know "HOW" to alter a battle because, well I'm average and despite your belief that as an average player I can turn battles with poor teams because my team becomes 1% "better", I think it's incredibly difficult for an average player to be able to swing battles that often whereas good players (which I'm not) can do this more often. Anyway, thank you for your input.

So another vote for - "nothings different you're just a bad player at the weekends" which is fine. Now bare in mind that my *personal* stats i.e. how "I" play, are very slightly above average as seen above, yet how the *team" plays (my WR) usually lowers. So if my personal performance doesn't change yet the team loses more then where is the problem, me (who stayed the same) or the team? Now I'm perfectly happy to admit my own personal weaknesses in the game (there are many) and if my personal stats (XP/KD/DMG etc) had shown a drop off at the weekends I could agree that it must be me that's the issue, but they don't. As shown above taking the MK for example my *team* only won 1 out of 4 games despite all my stats being green in those matches. What I will admit to is that I watch what the team does very carefully and, even if I see them making poor tactical choices, I tend to back them up rather than do my own thing. The MK was a prime example where the T8 team's decided not to cap after the friendly DD's died but to sit back and border surf leaving the enemy DD's to take the caps and win (3 times!). Now if I had charged in to take a CAP myself I would have been focused and died alone, so I stayed with the team and wittled the enemy down whilst watching the team perform badly whilst ignoring any advice in chat (I was even polite!). Now I did OK in those matches even if the team lost but it's still a loss.

Thats a skill I'm desperate to learn - "How to get a poor team to start working together" but it's just so difficult when most don't even acknowledge "chat" and are happy doing their own weird and wacky things.

So just to be clear, you are saying that there is absolutely NO difference, at all, what so ever, in any way shape or form between weekend and mid-week play generally and therefore it must surely be me that plays differently for only 2 days of the week. Fair enough if that's your opinion.

That I'm playing Atlanta and MK killing DD's for the EU challenge, and now I've finished I'm in the Molotov setting fires for the same challenge - plus as I've already said, I'm an average player doing average stuff but my KD ratio this weekend was pretty good though!

Hi all, one of annoyances with the game, especially around "play X amount of games" events (looking at you GNB) was the amount of Bots being used. Now a very quick look at warshipstoday etc shows that there are literally dozens of people who are apparently playing over 40 matches per day (14hrs worth without break) every single day none stop for months at a time. Now it doesn't take a detective to work out very quickly that these are Bots farming credits and XP yet the accounts are still active. Now players can set their stats to private to prevent us seeing them but how "difficult" would it be for WG to perform the same scan of their own stats to pick this up within a few days and ban the users? Is this something that WG is actively pursuing do we know? Many Thanks. Ian

Got to 18 & then watched my win rate plummet while I got frustrated at T5 Noobs with zero clue giving me crap in chat. Not played another ranked game since and I've even been playing the stock game less now (4 games a night instead of 10+) just due to the influx of morons from GNB and Ranked.

Hi all, I've just completed the "Best of the Best" mission on the EU server which gives 25000 (25k) captain points but I can't find any info about how I "claim" these points so I can share them around my lower captains and there is nothing on the Wows website about it either - http://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/special/boot-camp-best/ Then I check in here and find a single thread which says that all the points go to the captain you complete the mission with (http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/46005-boot-camp-challenge-best-of-the-best/page__hl__%2Bboot+%2Bcamp+%2Bbest__fromsearch__1) - Is this right? If it is then WG have seriously pee'd me off as I completed it in my 14 point captain as he's in my favourite ship but I didn't want him to get the points as I have a Fuso captain that needs them more and there's nowhere which says "who" gets the points.

Got 7 kills in my Atlanta (5 DD's, 1 CA and 1 BB) but still lost the match!!! Replay Here - http://wowreplays.com/Replay/9890-IanH755-Estuary Personal Score Team Score Detailed Report Detailed Report Part 2 Credits and XP

I agree with this completely, "stealth" firing from open water is my biggest gameplay complaint of the game.

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/54527-arp-kirishima-awarded/ Plus it's in the FAQ sticky at the top of the page - http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/22738-frequently-asked-questions-please-read-this-before-making-a-new-topic/ *Mods* - It might be worth putting "Where is my Arpeggio Ship" as a separate sticky rather than being "hidden" in the FAQ, just a thought!

I find T5-7 to be my sweet spot. Although I've got 4 T8 ships I find the meta for the majority of the games at T8+ to be very defensive which bores me but every now and again there's a high Tier match that just goes mental and it's awesome! Repair costs definitely could do with a minimum 1/3 reduction.

Hi all, I've been playing around 5-10 matches every day for the last 4 months (800+ games) and really love the game but since the start of GNB and especially Ranked I've noticed the quality of teams has nose dived significantly. Is this due to those two "competitions" bringing out "casual" players (aka the weekend warriors) or, as I'm still fairly new, does it constantly go through these peaks and troughs of player quality? I still have some rare "good" games but my WR of around 50% fluctuates from 65%+ to as low as 33% week to week purely due to the influx of sub-par players in my favourite T5-6 tier (love my Molotov) which seems to be the Ranked area. Even when I jump upto my T8 Fubuki the quality has dropped massively with no-one supporting each other, just 12 randoms doing their own thing and when you try to help in chat (which is very quiet) nothing happens which is a new one to me as chat was always busy at T8+. I've even lost a T5 Co-Op game, how is that even possible I'm going to take a break and drop to a game a day, just to recharge and see if/when I start to like the game again.

Not to spam my own thread but I've just had the most unbelievable thing happen in a game (wish I'd got screen shots). A T7 game on Strait in a New Mexico, game was 50/50 down to the last 4 ships each. We had me, 2 CA's and a Kamikaze R (important) whilst the enemy had 3 T7 BB's and a CA. I was brawling 2 of the BB's (and soon a third) and I notice the kamikaze R has "hidden" on the border of the map! There's 3 prime DD targets just waiting to be torped and he's border humping 10KM+ away from the nearest one. After I died I rage in chat about this guy and it turns out it's his 3rd game ever and his first in his newly bought premium DD and he "didn't know how to torp yet" He ended the game with 93xp FML!

The shame of it for me is that my first 5-6 Ranked games were brilliant with lots of chat, good tactics, plenty of support so even though I lost 1-2 it was only because the enemy team were even better and I genuinely thought that this was what Ranked was like all the time and it was great! Then came the next 10 games of utter garbage teams which seems more like the norm. On the plus side, before the WG servers crapped out I had an hour or so of pretty good games and only one bunch of morons to deal with (1 friendly cap with 8+ ships sat in it, enemy had the other 2 and our team just sat there).

I think WG need to get some more hamsters on the wheel. It was bad last night but today is unplayable after 7pm GMT although I did get a few games in before that were fine (4pm -6pm GMT)

I genuinely feel that playing ranked is reducing my skill level. After a session I can't even win a Co-Op game!

I wonder if they'd consider making it only available to those with a WR of 50% or higher or something similar?

I'm finding that I'm getting citadel'd at least 50% more than during Random games (at least two/three per game), are "ranked" players so much better than "random" players? I've 100 games with the Molotov so I know to expect Citadels from all angles but the increase in people hitting my citadels between Ranked players and Randoms is very obvious. PS I'm getting very bored already of killing the same T6 ships on the same maps doing the same tactics so maybe Ranked isn't for me.

Hi all, This isn't a "the game sucks" post, not at all, it's more of a "I suck and it's killing the game for me" post. I've been playing about a month, had 300+ games and had an average 50% win rate which meant that while lost a few I also won a few which kept me happy so its not like I'm an epic player, just Mr Average. I mainly play a bit of everything except CV's and I'm T7 in IJN DD's, T5 US/RUS cruiser (Kirov is my favourite) & T4 US/IJN BB's. However, over the past two weeks everything seems to be worse when I play. My team-mates play poorly, my salvos are hugely dispersed, enemy DD's with only 6 torps and a 1min reload fires 9 in 30 seconds (happened twice) or they can fire gun salvos every 3-5 seconds when in the same ship my rate is every 10 seconds, or angling no longer does anything for me, or there's 6 other ships in front of me yet I'm the ship that gets focus'd etc etc the list is endless and because of these things I end-up massively frustrated after each game and even effecting life outside the game as, instead of a "fun" game, I'm leaving angry and frustrated instead. I really did like the game at the start and even though I've had a rare good game (1 in 15) these past two weeks have been brutal and my win rate "feels" like it's dropped below 25% for that period (the team may win but I get killed with 1-3 minutes which feels like a loss) and it's massively sucking my enjoyment out of the game. I read these forums daily, I've picked up dozens of tips (helpful comms, where to aim, torp dodging in BB's, don't lemming etc) yet I'm still not enjoying the game so I ask, what can I do to change things?

Thanks for the replies folks, although I realise it seems to gone off at a little bit of a tangent. As mentioned in my OP, I realise that it's myself that needs to improve, both in tactics and ability, hence asking for help although I realise the title may seem a little click-baity if you don't read the rest of the OP. Anyway, after feeling like I was probably pushing too hard and getting desperate for a win I've backed right off and had 3 really good games last night (10pm GMT), including one in the Atlanta where I actually did what the Atlanta is built for in the game and took out 3/4 of the enemy DD's before taking a humongous broadside from a Tirpitz I was carefully ignoring so I could bore down on a carrier instead . As much as I'm finding this place to be a great wealth of information (and it is), I've found that watching Youtube videos of Phly, Baron, Jingles etc is helping out more with some of the practical aspects of the game as you can see what is working/not working, or they're explaining why they do something as they do it for example and that visual style of learning sticks with me more I suppose. I'm still scouring this place for any/all hints and tips I can get my grubby little hands on however so thank you all for contributing and helping me out. As for my game style, I tend to be a pusher in CA's, a attempted sniper in BB's (although I love a good close range brawl every now and again) and a sniper torp's in the DD's (hence the rush to complete the IJN collection). I bought a couple of premiums just because I liked their look rather than for any particular gameplay reasons and my first T8 game in the Kutuzov was a massive eye opener with it's huge 19km range (woohoo!!!) vs HE taking 3 days to land (woah no!!!) and the Atlanta had a similar steep learning curve so for the time being I'm happy sticking at T5 while I slowly build my skills with the occasional jump to T8 for a taster of whats to come. Anyway, thats enough of my waffling on! Good Luck and Good Hunting!

Thanks for the replies, as I said "it's me/team" not the game that's the issue. Just played 10+ matches - only won 1 -Yayyyyy and the only one I won was dropping back to the T2 IJN DD where I carved through their lines and got 2 BB's & 1 CA with torps and 1 very low health CA with guns and it was a blast. Then jumped back into T5 Kirov and had a few decent matches but lost every time and tried a few of the other T5-6 ships I have and lost every time. After all those loses I even dropped back into Co-Op mode with the T2 DD just to "have fun" (which is the most important thing for me) but it was a bit too easy TBH. Then I played Trap 2 times and watched everyone in a T8 game go for A and get massacred while I took C alone both times before trying to support B, so those that say T7+ has better players - not in my experience! PS - The 9 Torps thing - I surprised a T6 IJN in my Kirov as I popped around a island while he was evading an angry CA/BB combo. He saw me, panic fired both barrels (saw 6 torps) and I evaded them. Now I know he's out of torps for about 1min so imagine my surprise when 30 seconds later he launches another 3 at me which, as I'm not expecting, I only dodge 2 and flood to death. I still killed him but there was no-one else around (checked mini-map) so it was definitely him who fired 9 torps and had a gunfire rate of 3-5 seconds in a T6 IJN DD. Can't explain it