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Yeap, I know I certainly did but the extremely poor business sense that WG are showing has stopped me buying any more. The Value for Money" is so stupidly low that if they made these 1/2 the price instead (or trebbled the camos and added better ones like Gamescom 2016 etc) they would sell more than 50% more extra, making more profit, but instead they want top sell a much smaller number of the £70 crates, and that makes absolutely ZERO business sense at all when the item being sold has virtually zero "manufacturing" cost!

Quoted from another topic about the Halloween Crates vs Value for Money - As I said on the 19th, I think WG will massively over-price these and I think they won't sell anywhere near the number they'd hope for and 2 weeks later - Oh Look, 40 crates for £70 (the sub & commander can be got in-game for free) - WG must be smoking a serious amount of crack at HQ!!!!!!!

Until there is a skill cap added, like Gran Turismo had where licenses were needed for higher tier gameplay, then the game will always be stuck with people whose only "skill" has been that they've played lots of games. I worked out that even a potato earning just 350xp only needed 3000 games to get a T10 ship and there's nothing to prevent that so theres no incentive to improve your skills.

Hi all, I think it's a bit odd that all 4 levels of RN Missions for the Cossack are based on "get 750k of potential damage" when the Cossack is clearly a DD, a stealthy ship with a small health pool and not a tanky BB and therefore shouldn't really be involved in BB type missions. I would have thought that getting some Spotting Damage would have been more appropriate for a DD rather than the BB centred "Potential Damage" but obviously WG is playing 4th Dimensional chess right now with these requirements which absolutely proves (to me anyway) that the WG staff in charge of these requirements don't play the game themselves or understand the role of a DD in the game. Will I be able to get this missions done? - Yeap!. Will I expose my ship to much more incoming fire trying to get this mission done? - Yeap! Does that still make this BB-based requirement bloody silly for a DD? - Hell Yeah it does! What's your thoughts WG forumites?

Hi all, The video for the Ring Round ! has dropped and it contains a bonus code for a special mission - get 5 "defended" ribbons within 7 days to win 10 India Bravo Terrathree signals (-10% to post battle cost). Video here on the WoWS site Code - SWINGTHELEAD

6300 doubloons = £20 (remember 450 are free as a bonus) Offer Price = £14 Difference 33% in price £14 = 6300 Doubloons therefore £20 = 9000 doubloons if priced at the same rate Difference 50% in doubloons But saying 50% extra doubloons is "bad" maths because you can't buy those doubloons at the 33% discounted rate. So while "technically" correct it's bad maths to say it that way. Better maths is to say its a 33% discount.

[Co-Op & Scenario] - Tried the "Sunray in the Darkness" mission, first run in a BB and did 500k damage, 10 kills etc but only managed a 2 star win. Second (and final) run was this great game. With just one other person who knew how to play this mission well, myself and @eve_wowp cleaned up the whole match for a 5 star win. Eve took on the Gorgon and stayed in the filth while I took on Rasputin and burned all the BB's while the rest of the team cleaned up what we left. and another 4 kill Minotaur game. I genuinely think that a well played Minotaur is THE best ship in Co-Op - Great AA, Great Stealth, Great Guns on broadside targets, Great Torps for when the target sails straight at you, Smoke etc -It's lethal!

Not quite as there is no "mission". It works exactly like the current daily "log-in" bonus that we've been running for about 2 months now, only instead of getting 3 signals or 500XP or 200 Coal etc everyday you log-in you get 450 doubloons instead and it's displayed using the new "Daily Shipments" screen which you will start to see at first log-in - Everyone else see's this new screen from 31st Oct - I'm wondering if this might be a test of it? So log-in 14 times over a month (not play, just log-in) and collect your 6750 doubloons (6300 daily + 450 bonus) at 50% discount of their original cost. However I agree with your comment about WG trying to increase daily retention rates. In the past 2 months we've had "log-in daily for a bonus", the new Daily Missions (awards for 3, 9 & 20 completions) and the the RN missions too. I know the RN mission have increased my limited amount of playing time from maybe 10-20 games per week to 50+.

[Co-Op] - A quick game in the Minotaur where, shockingly, a human BB actually tanked for me allowing me to get broadsides on a few ships. He wasn't really rewarded for that act which is a shame but I did well out of his push and I gave him a complement for his troubles.

I've tried to be polite but now you are lying. I have never ever asked that question and have said so many times already. I have asked if it is relevant for ANY DD - see quote below, thread title, OP etc. I have never ever mentioned Gunboat once in any of my posts - that is something YOU have made up about me and I wonder why you are lying over something so trivial - or, as I suspect, have you not really read any of my posts and just reacted to what you "THINK" I said, despite me making perfectly clear numerous times that what you "THINK" I said is in fact "NOT" what I said? PvtPete The titles of this thread - "This weeks RN Missions - Why do Cossack missions need 750k "Potential" Damage not "Spotting" Damage? It's not a BB WG!!! You are also lying and, again, I have to wonder why you are lying? EDIT - I'm done with internet Drama with liars, I'll not post in this thread again and read their lies. Good-day to you Sirs......................I SAID GOOD-DAY!!

As I posted on the Reddit thread - we already have the UI tool needed with the "Press 'B' to select quick message" big wheel function so making another one with "Press 'V' for secondaries target menu" would be easy. Whether the AI or game engine has the ability to actually change where it targets a ship is another matter I suppose.

I agree, thats a very viable tactic and keeps with the DD's strength and I use that a lot in Co-Op where Bots have fantastic aim, making is more difficult for any open water firing to be effective.

* Does Anyway, back on topic - This isn't about me or my stats (thanks for those, I'd no idea I'd played so many different DD's) and nor have I "called out" players. I have asked a simple question "Should WG be making DD missions based around potential damage, which is usually a BB trait, rather than basing them on something which is a DD trait, like spotting?" and very few have actually answered. Those that have answered I have not argued with (or "called out") about their answer with as that is their opinion and I'm just happy people actually answered the single simple question I asked. I honestly don't understand the vitriol and deliberate "fact bending what the OP said to match my argument to what I think he making" that's been going on in this thread but sadly it's indicative of the way people seeming react on the internet in this modern age.

On the first point, my personal opinion is that "tanking" as you defined isn't a "one or the other" situation but both i.e. you get potential damage when you angle and shells bounce off you as well as from those shells that miss you entirely. On the second point, DD's generally (other than the mini-cruiser Russian DD's) have poor gun range and/or shell flight times compared to the cruisers/BB shooting at them so if you force them to be far enough away from those enemies, so that they can dodge their fire (12km+), then you're normally too far away to Cap or do any real damage with your guns/torps. I mean it's an interesting suggestion which sounds solid initially - DD's are harder to hit, every shell missing them isn't hitting a cruiser etc - but that isolates a single skill (avoiding fire using distance and manoeuvrability) while negating all the other huge bonuses that DD's have like Stealth to Cap, ambush torps, great upclose gunpower against other DD's, Hydro to spot torps for team, smoke for team mates etc. Yes, glad to see you can admit this at last!

Ah the always astounding ColonelPete, with your amazing and incisive deductive reasoning skills I'm always surprised that you miss the point so very often, I'd say 95% of the time TBH! It's not whether I like the replies (who cares if I do/don't) it's that 99% of the replies weren't even related to the single question being asked in the first place, which renders the effort taken by those posters null and void and wastes my time reading them. Now I'm not angry with your lack of understanding of such a simple concept (ask a question - get answer relating to question), I'm just disappointed in you, so take a demotion to MajorPete as punishment and march yourself away double time like a good chap.

In this thread - Lots of people who can't/don't/won't read the OP So in simple English for the very simple people which apparently use this forum - Should WG Be Making A DD "Tanking" Mission - NO!!!!!! Should WG Be Making A DD "Spotting" Mission - YES!!!!! Have People Ignored The Question "Why Has WG Made a DD Tanking Mission" - YES!!!!!! Have People Complete Missed The Point Of This Thread Like They Do Every Time - YES!!!!!!! Did The OP Say "You Can Do It Anyway" - YES!!!!! Did The OP Say "It Is Easy In A Cossack" - YES!!!!! After Ignoring The Important Question, Have People Ignored The OP Which Said "It Is Easy" And "Yes I Can Do It" And Instead Posted Numerous Times "But It's Easy" And "You Can Do It" - YES!!!!! Do The Replies Make It Easier To Understand The IQ Level Of The Players Involved - YES!!!!!!! Will People Over-React To This Sarcastic Reply - OH HELL YEAH!!!!!!! 11 Replies and no one single reply actually discussing the question asked in both the title and the OP - Well Done WG Players, Well Done! No, you didn't. I asked if we should have Spotting damage requirements on a DD rather than the current "get 750k Potential damage" requirements. No mention of either "in a sngle battle" or "get 750k Spotting damage" in the OP.

Same here and I'm normally a "container whale", but these are the worst "value for money" containers WG have released so far where you get around 50% less "rewards" for the same price compared to the earlier containers like Bismarck etc.

EDIT - IT IS ONLY TEMPORARY DURING THE "HOCKEY PLAYER" COLLECTION Hi All, For a while now I've been asking for "rewardless" achievements to be given to Co-Op players, just like in Scenarios and it looks like WG have listened and given Co-Op players a new achievement for 4 kills called the "Four Goal Haul" aka the Co-Op Kraken. Even better is that, rather than being rewardless, it gives 4 camos upto once a day! So thank you WG, it's very much appreciated! (any chance of a Detonation one now, please!!!)

This has happened to me once, left a single message to WG customer service and a few hours later everything was credited correctly.

So how's this Op gone for you so far? Personally I just give up with how utterly poor the majority of our player-base has become over the past few years, with the IQ race to bottom increasing in speed everyday! Apparently sailing and shooting is just "too Hard" to do as I was told in chat by 2 Clan-based players when we failed to save the Transylvania. OK, maybe there was lots of new players on the team - NOPE, only 1 guy hadn't been playing long enough to play this before so the rest have absolutely ZERO excuse for playing as badly as they did. TBH I'm not sure I'll play this for a bit as 319XP for 10 minutes of work is a waste of my time and patience so I think I'll wait for a week until people have a clue before trying again but good luck to anyone playing this!!!!

[Co-Op] - Last ones for the week - Went to the B point and got absolutely no support as the terrified humans hide behind islands until I solo killed a Shima before having 2 of the bots (Montana/Daring) help out as I killed the Yamato and Salem. Then I stalked the Montana for a Solo kill on that too. In the Cossack I played a waiting game against the Bot Cossack and an Atlanta (citadelled it - take that Anti-DD ship!) before torping the Lyon and getting a surprise Jervis caught by my Hydro before being HE'd to bits. And lastly for what seemed like a fairly "normal" Missouri game I was amazed at the Credits earned, which would normally be around 1/2 of that, then I realised I had 3 caps which helps explain it!

...................and in return I was also honoured by the presence of @Mandalorianer although I absolutely mangled the spelling of your name in Chat, sorry! I was doing my "500 secondary hits" mission for G8 missions in my Massachusetts and was so busy clicking on all eleventy billion Midway planes and clicking targets for my Manual Secondaries I've no idea how the match went for you but I saw you were in the top 3 at the end!

Hey, have you been stalking me I absolutely agree though, some people will just by without looking which is both good and bad for the community - Good because they pay for the servers and bad because it makes WG feel like they can output any rubbish and still get money.

You're already on your way to improving your skill levels because you've come onto the forum and asked for help. Most new players don't and will keep their "beginner" level skills for much longer than is good. Next thing is to listen to what the players on here are saying, even if it feels a bit negative to start with, because once you listen your skills will improve quickly and you'll notice that you get better during the matches with better scores and more wins, so stick with it even it it seems hard at first!

People WILL buy them for the chance to "win" the special Halloween camos like the Myoko/Octopus mix etc, sad but true!