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  1. Bbqparty

    Republique turtleback - a fail or something planned?

    Sure search for it. I'm not the one who said that I just said if it's a papership then it's armor layout is known..
  2. Bbqparty

    Republique turtleback - a fail or something planned?

    Well I don't know about it too, you called it paper ship. I can give you blueprints of russian paperships if you want?
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    Republique turtleback - a fail or something planned?

    Papership? If it's taken from a blueprint paper, armor layout is known to the smallest detail.
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    Republique turtleback - a fail or something planned?

    Not only with DM, I've done it with Hinden and if Hinden can do it, every CA can do it..
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    BB's that wander off

    Today while I was playing with Lyon there was a Gneisenau in enemy team which appeared on a really weird out of game position behind some small islands, when we started to get a huge lead on numbers, destroying every ship close to his position he disappeared and we didn't see him again until the last minute of our game, one of our dds was even trying to find him around in his last spotted position at some point because he became the last standing enemy but our dd gave up, then we were half way through the flag cap waiting for game to end, this gneisenau appeared in the opposite corner from his last seen position on the map with full health and the reason he got spotted is he started shooting HEs at me from 20kms range. Hilarious. This game desperately needs a tutorial teaching you about HE/AP mechanics, Ship roles and map positions. when you start playing
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    Republique turtleback - a fail or something planned?

    Lol. I would like to see WG's clarification on this. My citadel hits on Republique in hindenburgh from max range definitely felt like some weird RNG or bug. Until I saw this thread I was certain it was a one shot but as shown here people can do it consistently. If STs or WG knew this but gave it a pass anyways and this is somehow working as intended. I have nothing to say. I'm not even surprised. Like having 32mm all over the place is not a disadvantage in terms of armor, you also have a fail turtleback that can't even protect you from cruisers because why not? Lol.
  7. Bbqparty

    Republique turtleback - a fail or something planned?

    Nothing is working as intended. The armor layout is bugged just like pre-fix Warspite armor. Des Moines 8"/55 MK16 can only pen around 200mm armor at 14km range. So you might want to detail this "working as intended" part and how Des Moines can pen the 32mm deck, the 150-170mm armored deck and then the 60mm citadel roof. And in the clips forget about plunging mechanics on 170mm plus 60m deck armors and turtleback, even without those DM should not be penetrating a flat 400mm belt at 16 km But because WG messed up armor does not extend fully to waterline, so shells just literally ignore Armor Armor is broken and it will probably get hot fixed.
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    Richelieu, your opinon on guns dispersion?

    This trend of making new battleships have terrible accuracy when something about the ship seems strong which started with German line is getting out of hand. They need to stop doing this it's getting stupid.
  9. Bbqparty

    Nerf Conq already!

    Then don't answer. The thing is. Playing is one thing, spamming is another. If you are going to play Conqueror as much as you did with the Belfast and then come here to complain I'm fine with it but if you have over 300 games with Belfast and before complaining about this ship you proceed to take on a ship you don't have yet doesn't seem genuine. Yea it wouldn't change if there was a "fact". All it doesn't change is your argument but it sure as crap undermines it or why would you care to answer? :) Besides the argument "promotes brainless" play is not even an objective statement let alone a fact it's just a subjective opinion. From my own subjective experience here; People just need to adapt playing against Conqueror like it's no use to angle against its HE spam, timing damage control is the key you should not use it instantly otherwise you deserve to be punished, tanky builds against flames in particular works very well against its HE. I don't have any problems against that ship even in my tier 8 games. I've never had any problems against its famous HE spam. It sure annoys sometimes where it destroys everything on your ship and burns you on 3 places constantly due to good RNG, but you can minimize those situations with good play and positioning on map. It's a ship that greatly punishes bad players from what I've seen. Here is a fact : Conqueror is a fresh addition to the game who has a different play style compared to other options we have by having a reliable HE and great concealment at tier 10, although you call it OP it "barely" makes it in to the Tournament plays at tier 10. As for its statistics even through it preforms best in dealing raw damage, the winrate seems normal and onpar with other options when proportioned with its playrate. Just select options "Yesterday, 1 week, 2 weeks" in "when" tab here : https://eu.warships.today/vehicle/4179572688/Conqueror and see it by yourself.
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    Nerf Conq already!

    It's kind of irrelevant but I find it amusing a Belfast player calls for nerfs on Conqueror
  11. Bbqparty

    Roma does not live up to the hype

    I don't know if you realise but Roma has worse accuracy even at 10kms in the link you have provided, yea Roma has 25.36% accuracy rate while Bismarck has 25.71% in but that is still being worse than Bismarck. In 12 kms Bismarck has 19.93% while Roma has 19.58%, and goes on like that with Roma being worse Being the same means being the "same". You can't say things like 2.1 + 2 = 4.1 = 2+2. The thing is this tool is not even 100% accurate , the numbers for Roma would be worse if it would calculate shell weight, air drag and velocity. Because things like velocity increase vertical dispersion significantly. Yea with being forced to play close quarters where you still miss enemy and then proceed to overpen anything when you get hard earned hits the experience is just bad design. What one would expect to be a strength of the ship, the relatively flat arcs and high muzzle velocity combines with the incredibly troll dispersion to become most unreliable guns in the game. Most salvos which have pretty hard time to hit enemy anyways, will be just Overpen ribbons if the target is anything but a battleship even at midranges.
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    Roma does not live up to the hype

    I asked you to explain those "poorer guns" and you didn't provide me with anything then I gave you an example of Bismarck and you made the argument and tried to make look Bismarck guns are worse than Roma's guns. So I used ingame stats and made this comment : You made comments like these : I don't like people start their arguments in this way, because that means you are not willing to listen at all You don't mention, better dispersion and better reload of Bismarck guns. I don't actually care if you say they are both bad, this is over simplifying. No matter how bad Bismarck dispersion is, it still has better dispersion than Roma.. Which is irrevelant because that wouldn't change Bismarck guns being still better than Roma guns I will provide a better answer to that response in the end and I feel you. The thing is you didn't make a good argument about which ship has worse dispersion than Roma. Than proceeded to claim Bismarck is real bad. That actually make my case stronger because again you never backup this claim which was yours : I've already asked you which gun here: and here : I woud like you to backup that claim because is it stands now, Roma is even worse than Bismarck's 18.1 km 233m dispersion against Roma's 243 at the same range. Combine that with high velocity and air drag what ship is exactly "poorer" than Roma? I'm not going to ask it again because you simply avoid the question. So without making your case strong in "Another tier 8 BB has worse guns than Roma" case while stating Bismarck has one of the worse guns (just in time when I gave the Bismarck example) in the game while I state Roma has worse guns than Bismarck supports my comment whether you like it or not. Because while you had said Bismarck had one less gun and somewhat less damage you forgot to mention better dispersion and faster reload. So I can't really see how Bismarck has worse guns than Roma? Another thing is Bismarck can be the only candidate you can ever bring up against Roma, so you bashing out Bismarck supports my points in either way. This is just how it is I don't try to twist what you meant, I actually have to apologize to you because I could have written my comment better without you getting that feeling. But just like I gave you a misinterpretation on this one, you gave me another one about our game topic. Because it's clear you don't think Roma is worse than Bismarck and you didn't mean to support my point., but where I'm getting at is you did it anyways. So I'm not saying you meant it, or intentionally did it, I don't blame it on you but you just did it. We are still on the same boat on one thing though and that is with Roma having a terrible dispersion.
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    Roma does not live up to the hype

    I didn't ask about your opinions how "notoriously poor at range" Bismarck is and yes it is. I wanted you to tell me which ship has worse dispersion than Roma in tier 8. Because you claimed there are ships worse than Roma. Okey which one? Bismarck isn't the one since altough slightly, it still has better than Roma. Now we are on Bismarck I want to make one thing clear here You made my point even stronger with your comment, you explained how Bismarck gun accuracy is pathetic, I thank you for explaining that because Roma's ingame values are even worse than that of Bismarck and combining high velocity with vertical dispersion it gets even worse where does this situation put Roma in? I mean you said it yourself Bismarck accuracy is "notoriously poor", so Roma having worse stats for dispersion than a freaking Bismarck, your comment just agrees with me. We are on the same boat. Roma's current dispersion is incredibly poor..
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    Roma does not live up to the hype

    I woud like you to backup that claim because is it stands now, Roma is even worse than Bismarck's 18.1 km 233m dispersion against Roma's 243 at the same range. Combine that with high velocity and air drag what ship is exactly "poorer" than Roma? I played both ships and Bismarck is a sniper compared to what Roma is. So? That's an invalid argument because Admiral Hipper gets played a lot too and doing just fine. Doesn't stop it from being a very weak, the worst tier 8 cruiser... Besides you can upgrade tech tree ships to tier 9 so you can have some bad ships along the lines it's fine perhaps even good, I respect Des Moines players who had to go trough pepsicola and before buff NO grind, Roon and Hindenburg are amazing ships once you pass Hipper, this is something you can't do in a premium ship.
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    Roma does not live up to the hype

    Here is a great video by IChase also explaining why Roma dispersion is so bad even at extremely close ranges : Btw Some battleships had weak armor trading for high speed, some had very good mobility, some were pretty small size for their huge calibers. But guns? It's one thing every BB shares and it's their great guns. Guns are always the main point of having a battleship in the field Guns lacking in a battleship makes absolutely no sense.
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