Venom_Too

Du meinst dem der vor dem Shimanerf entstanden ist ? wo das Game World of Torpedos genannt wurde ? Stimmt... war total ungerechtfertigt das damals kaum jemand BB gespielt hatte. (Speziell im High Tier)

Vielen lieben Dank für die Wichtel Aktion... Habe aus 5 3 Euro Containern und einem 5 Euro Container: 1x eine Texas und 1x eine Indianapolis gezogen. Ist ein guter Schnitt und hatt mich gefreut die Aktion

Was man natürlich auch nicht vergessen darf. Meistens fahren die DD auf einen zu oder weg... und da kann es sehr oft passieren das eine Kugel durch das gesamte Schiff rauscht mit AP.. Der Schaden ist nicht zu verachten.

Wenn dich eins dieses Spiel lehrt dann das: Es gibt in dem Spiel einen A*schvoll Leute die 4-5k und noch mehr Spiele haben und eine WR von unter 50% Und wenn du z.b. die schlechtesten[EDIT: Noch besser die untere Hälfte von allen] Rang 1 nimmst ist es gut möglich das die Rang 10 besser sind. Da du eben das Problem hast das die Rang 10 Leute enorm gute Spieler sein können, jedoch keine Zeit hatten (oder keine Lust) für den Grind auf Rang 1.

Yes for an correct Result you would play all of them.. and the Germans without Torps. And no... She would be still as good as she is.. But the huge Diffrence between the Gnei/Scharn and Tirp against the Bismarck. You don't get the Damage automatic... you must hit with the Torps.. and get in Range.. It is avoidable damage for the enemy.. the Secondaries will do the average of 10-15k per game.. if you are in range automatic..

Where is the Diffrence to today ? I see regulary Bismarcks at 20km Sniping Range. And the most Damage comes from the Bismarck Mainguns. The Secondaries are only Bonus. 380mm 30 Seconds reload ? GJ you killed the ship.

It is an advantage which falsifies the Average Damage. Simply by the Fact you get the Bonus without doing anything. But even with this advantage, there is not really a lot more damage in average against the other Ships. its an Diffrence from 3-9 k Damage in the last 2 weeks. From the second Best to the Worst in Damage on Tier 8. If you now know that she got ~10k bonus damage for just being in the Battle in average. Where is the Point that she is better than the others ? And you can call me stupid or curse me as you like. Which won't make a Diffrence that my Argument is valid. Additonally if you look at the best of the best in the last 2 weeks the average Difference is even smaller. Even WITH the Secondary armament.. So plz.. Explain me where it is better. Edit: Btw @ Topic. You can remove the Hydro. The Bismarck skills Vigilance.. Same Problem as before. Cause Vigilance has the same effect passive as the Hydro. U just loose 1 Heal.

Würde ich auch als nicht "guter" Spieler. Weil es einfach nicht möglich ist. Du kannst in einem Teamspiel nicht den Skill eines Einzelnen bewerten. Es zählt nähmlich immer nur das Ganze. Weil wenn das ganze Team gut spielt, dann gewinnt es. Und das ist nicht immer von einem einzelnen abhängig. Und je mehr Spieler pro Seite sind, desto weniger ist Einzelleistung Spielbeeinflußend.

Ich muss das erst ausprobieren für mich klingt das wie die RU DD's... Sobald du offen bist schießt auch alles auf dich... Ergo kann ich mir nur durch ein paar negativen Standpunkten kein ganzes eigenes Bild machen.

Nope noch schlimmer ----> Ferien!

Nope. The better Example with Usain Bolt would be. The others don't have his shoes that give them 0,01 second better Time. Which would result. That he will always have 0,01 second better Time than the others. Even they would be equal in Fitness ... Clothing etc. Edit: And if you take his Shoes away and he gets the same as the others and still wins. So Bolt is simply OP!

Im Ranked funktioniert gar nichts, da der Ranked Modus nur Zeit ist. Es ist vollkommen egal ob du 1000 Spiele machst und du wirst Rang 1 oder ob du 220 Spiele machst auf Rang 1. Der einzige Unterschied ist Zeit. Das hat nichts absolut NICHTS mit Skill zu tun. Das einzige was Skill beeinflusst ist die Zeit die du aufwendest für Rang 1. Da passiert es dir z.b. des öfteren das du auf Rang 2 zusammengewürfelt wirst mit eben Leuten die 800 Spiele brauchten um auf diesen Rang zu kommen du jedoch nur 180.... Demensprechend ist der Klafffaktor des Skills noch extremer als im Random.

I clearly state my Opinion and u say its all wrong.. and i have no clue.. But you talk against a wall.. KK move alonge have a nice life.

Your Opinion must not be mine. Simple: They are Famous. Especially in the European Region. Wait for the RN BB's.. then we will have a Split between them and German BB

It counts in overall Damage YES. But Statisticly speaking its for nothing. Cause the others wont have it. You would need to have all 3 BB's to have Manual Secondaries. And THEN you have the right results. But it's much easier were you see there is not much Diffrence between the Average of the Ships. U take good players and look at their stats. And there is no Peak of Average Damage or Winrate that would say Bismarck is OP or UP for her tier. And always keep in mind none of the good Players will have Manual Sec on an NC .. and on a Bismarck he will. And if they are borderline even.. there is no up or op

You can't use an Source in an Statistic which don't have all testsubject. For Example. U got 3 Cars. 1 has an Turbo the others don't. The one with the Turbo will have the better laps. Which is obvious and has no sense to make an statistic for it. The Bismarck will always have an higher average, simply by the fact u get ~10k average damage as Bonus without doing anything. And for your "funny" up post. You took 7 Games in a Period of 7 Days. Which can mean you made one Game each day. Where it is possible you are always high Tier and then its not hard to get this stats. Which underlines my statement the the Bismarck as High Tier is strong. But by looking into your total stats. We can see that the amagi is nearly as good as your Bismarck. And you need 70 Games more to get the Amount of your Amagi were the WR and Damage can easily flaten out or get even worser than your amagi. And if we look at the really good BB Captains. There is not much diffrence between all T8 Ships. But i won't change my Opinion that Bismarck as Low Tier is the worst of the others. Simply for the Facts which were announced.

Sure its funny, if you get caught for misguiding the Truth.

7 fights in 7 Days.. is an Great Statistic *thumbsup* Btw. Yes you have to substract it, cause they others don't have this damage so you have not equal Test Objects. Ah and btw. Your stats with the Bismarck are nearly the same as your Amagi... So were is the Bismarck OP again ?

Pretty Simple. The Average damage is falsified, because you must substract from the average ~10k for the secondaries (They Fires and the hits from hit). NC never uses Manual Secondary und Amagis rarely. If you remove that the Average is worser than the other lines. Which is possible cause the dispersion of the Germans are worser than the other BB. And the average Winrates have an marginal diffrence from 1-1,5% ... which is not much. Edit: And there is no Argument for: but i can't remove the average secondary damage. Yes you can, cause the other Ships don't have it. And in the Low Tiers there is not that much Diffrence, because the Scondaries don't give them that much damage as Bonus.

Weil sie ein Geschenk von einer Werbepromotion sind. Sie haben also keinen Wert ---> Kein Möglichkeit zu verkaufen.

Yes but if you have no Potatos in High Tier, the only Thing in advance is that you can gentle bend over... You can have good Games in High Tier (Great Shocker which is able with EVERY[Except Hatsu or Pepsi ] ship if its low Tier), if you get Players that are worser than you. But in general you will be the weakest Tier 8 as Low Tier. And for Protocol, if i'm out in my Big Toys. I'm more afraid of an Tirpitz as of an Bismarck. Bismarck is just Free XP

According to our Players in the Forum (I don't use any names): "The Gneisenau will be the weakest Tier VII BB in the Game." Before the Release of the KM Ships. Also the Rest of the Ships are mediocore (Except the Bismarck).. Today all flame about it.... So which is now true ? I'm confused? Also... Only while there are a lot, doesn't mean the Captains are good. I personally have an aversion of them like the japanese dd.. Most of the time they are the worst of the players you can imagine.

In keinster Weise sagte ich das es in Ordnung ist was WG Paris getan hat. Nur im Gegensatz zu den meisten hier in den Foren hol ich nicht gleich die Heugabeln und die Facken heraus. Abgesehen davon würde ich nicht wegen LUXUS Gütern ein ethnischen Vergleich herbeiziehen nur weil mich der Neid zwickt. Bin ich neidisch das nur unserer Server die Belohnungen nicht hat ? JA ? Streite ich es ab ? Nein. Und nochmal um es klar auszudrücken: Finde ich es in Ordnung? NEIN. Aber es ist so... und solange es nur LUXUS Güter sind, sehe ich keinen Handlungsbedarf. Da ich nicht in der Zentrale von WG in Paris sitze und ihre Beweggründe kenne.

U have no Manual AA, cause why would you give up your bonus damage which is a Trademark for the Bismarck. And considering that the CV's are not that often in the games, it is absoultly sensless to have a 4 Point Skill which only is effectiv once every 3-4 games. Oh and i forgot: The Dispersion on her is MEH.

No it's not. Bismarck is the weakest of the BB's if it gets uptiered. Which is in Random Battles often. Is she strong against T8 and lower: Yes. And also mentioned it has weak AA and only 380mm Guns. Hydro is an active skill, if it would be passive i would say it would be to strong yes. If you don't belive it, play it yourself and often enough.