Todger_Fairmile

Is it just me, or does the second turret (the one with the rangefinder) look smaller than the one without. Even the base looks noticeably smaller.

If they want to add an 'extra trait' to Dunkerque, make it a trainable torpedo launcher, or 2, to the stern. It would make the rear arc much more interesting. Maybe the torpedoes they're removing from HMS Belfast.

I'd rather see that to. However it's up to WG to decide , so I'll take what I can get.

Depends if they limit them to Just those two countries or use it as a line for other small navies as well. Let's face it there are several countries whose ships will never get into the game except as premiums or as part of an amalgamated line. There are South American and Spanish dreadnoughts and that I'd like to see, but don't want to pay out the nose (or some other orifice) for.

That's right... No Russian bias to see here.... go about your business.

Belfast had torpedoes until the mid 50's. She should have them in the game.

They say they CAN'T do it right now. Something to do with the program, probably the same reason they can't do turret mounted catapults. They probably won't be able to do a regular French line until they get this solved.

I agree turret health could be a concern. I've played 21 battles and not lost a turret yet, and only caused 1 loss (that I noticed) for Dunkerque. If she was as fragile as some would fear I would have expected to have lost some.

Yes, that's why I specified the other 2 tier 5 bb's as being further away (in specs) from Kongo than the tier 6 Dunkerque. As I said, Wg has decided, so all we can do is hope they give preferred MM to keep her away from tier 8 matches. Oh BTW Darth, Texas has 14" guns not 12" guns.

While Kongo's turrets rotate slower her guns do more damage. The reload time is only 2 seconds different. To my mind there is no real difference to choose between the two ships (other than the location of their main guns) their strengths and weaknesses even out. They are a lot closer to each other than the other tier 5 BB's (Texas and Konig) are to Kongo.

Disagree, the guns are not as good as Kongo, and she has fewer HP. Though she has more armour. In any case it's done and WG won't / can't change the tier once it's been released. So I hope she'll get pref mm. I wouldn't be surprised if she gets a few minor buffs in future patches. BTW haven't lost a turret yet (I've worked 2 3pt captains to 5 pts.) so maybe they've done something already. It's been a bit of fun once I decide to not worry hot 'fragile' it was supposed to be and just played it.

Well, since Albert doesn't seem to be coming soon, I broke down and bought Dunkerque with my NA account. First thing I would say is that it should have been a tier 5 ship. Since it's too late for that it needs preferred MM so it doesn't face tier 8 opponents. Other than having all it's guns in the front (and the restrictions that entails) it plays like a Kongo. That's the closest I can describe it. It moves well and is quite lively. I believe it will make a good trainer for Strasbourg (probably tier 6 on tree, and the reason Dunkirque is tier 6), Richelieu, Nelson/Rodney, and Izumo. In fact if you are going down the Japanese BB line it might be worth your while to buy Dunkerque for practice.

Dunkerque for sale on NA. https://na.wargaming.net/shop/wows/main/2064/

I'm holding off on buying any new ships until there is some information on Albert. Not a threat I just don't want to buy something and then find I can't afford Albert.

Just posted on NA server http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/rule-britannia/

Have you looked around? Apparently many times.

Scharnhorst is on NA server. Was really hoping for Konig Albert https://na.wargaming.net/shop/wows/specials/2008/ http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/scharnhorst-spotlight/

Oh, I agree the rear arcs are bad. And in the game, that would matter. However, in real life it would not be as big a deal, because they would be more broadside to their target. In any case the only way I intend to play tier(s) 9 or 10 is in public test, as I intend to stop at Bismarck and atrit my way to making Bismarck elite but won't spend the credits to purchase tier 9.

They should have had Albert out for Birthday weekend.

Go to the beginning of this Thread, the third picture shows that X turret can angle forward better than Y turret. X is mainly limited by secondary gun mount (looks like an 128mm aa mount). Y is constricted by aircraft hangar around base of X turret (bad place for a fire).

The big problem is Y turret. The hangar blocks it's rotation more than the superstructure blocks X.

You're no Sledge Hammer.

Horse crap.

I see that they keep getting the citadel wrong with 265mm instead of 350 (in the case of Konig 200, with Bayern and Gneisneau 260). they don't start getting it right until Bismarck.

I believe that the Russian cruisers were the first not to be on PT. But it could have been the Germans.