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I like Jutland, but kita is my favorite T9, I play DD very agressively. We have a cartoon about how I play kitakaze in clan battles As a hyper agressive kitakaze player, I can tell you Neustrashimy is my least favorite DD to hunt, because if I rush one down, they tend to survive and get away, this results in me being in a spot I don't want to be, without the quick kill I was looking for. Neustrashimy limps away and zombie heals a few times, it comes back with 15K 3 mins later after I got it down to 3K or whatever, super annoying. I'd get one myself but I deepthroated the pepega kitakaze-pill and can't play anything else.

Repeating thunderer is a broken ship won't change anything, it's a premium, it was released that way, clearly it was a mistake but it's staying that way, everyone knows it's broken. With carriers, at least small number of people are arguing that carriers are not broken, nobody is even arguing in Thunderer's case, the few pepegas who argue thunderer is fine in this very topic have never played a game over T4 killing bots. Nobody even remotely serious about world of warships says thunderer is a normal ship. It's not a normal ship so stop treating it like one, community-balancing is a thing, grief the ship. Des Moines was balanced this way a long time ago, people went "Des Moines! It's a roach! KILL IT" - Same for Smolensk. Carriers choose who they drop, so CVs, please drop thunderer, DDs choose who they torp, so DDs please torp thunderer, HE spammers choose who they spam, so spam thunderer. Queue is cluttered by pepegas playing Thunderer because it's easy to get good results in it, make it less easy, they'll go away, ask Smolensk. Smolensk was so hated, battleships would blindfire a smoked up smolensk when they had broadsides to shoot. When you face a Thunderer in ranked and the enemy team lost, there's very often a full HP captain-save-a-star thunderer on the enemy team sitting in the back, he wants to make THE FIRE DAMAGU to save his star - Don't go and kill him, hide behind a rock and run out the clock so he doesn't save his star. Sure, you're wasting 1-2 minutes of your own time and you're missing out on 20K damage, but you're also making a Thunderer player sad, isn't that what we all really want? If Thunderer and a Hindenburg are spamming you, put out Thunderer's fires and let Hindy's fires burn. Community balancing is a beautiful thing, it doesn't work with carriers because you never get to shoot one, it works on everything else. If you really hate Thunderer, play range-mod + spotter plane hindenburg and focus farm Thunderers from 25km, it's one of a few cruisers that's any good in the deadeye-meta anyway, they go absolutely nuts if you do to them what they do to everyone else but you're doing it better. Getting a witherer from killing a Thunderer feels better than a kraken and 3K base xp. If you're farming out a thunderer from 25km in a hindenburg, thunderer will lose his goddamn mind, because every time he shoots someone, he's spotted for 30 seconds and you get 3 salvos in, you're too far away for thunderer to even shoot you back, and even if he does shoot you back, their shells are underway for 15+ seconds, juke all of them. It's super toxic but that's what they like, apparently.

Black for randoms or pepega clan, cuz the radar trick works wonders against not-so-great players. Neustrashimy if your enemies are decent/good, cuz your team is fcked if you die and neustra doesn't die. You're in a good clan, we fought you guys several times in storm lately, you fight good opponents, I'd get Neustrashimy in your case.

It's a pain in the a** to duel black but at least black pays for her radar, you can easily beat it if you beat her radar. Unlike Smaland, doesn't pay for radar in any way, is basically Halland with radar and more dpm, because reasons.

Black has a trick, it's a very dirty trick, but if her trick is on cooldown, other T9s beat it, each in their own way. Black is a ship that is very strong for 25 seconds every 2 minutes, Jutland and kitakaze are strong all the time in their own way. @luokailk Neustrashimy's gimmick is it doesn't die, pretty good gimmick as staying alive is half your job done as a DD.

That's how you use DCP against any other ship, not against thunderer. Thunderer has almost 80% chance of getting a double fire on you per salvo, 55% chance of getting a triple fire on you per salvo, every 21 seconds. The way you deal with Thunderer is you let the first double/triple fire burn for 20 seconds and hit DCP right before the second double/triple fire hits you, this way you put out six fires with one DCP. Letting a triple fire burn for 20 seconds feels weird but it's the only way to stop Thunderer from burning you to death with pepega HE shells from 25km. Alternatively, stick to T8 battleships if you want to have fun in a battleship, T8s don't see 8-10 thunderers per match and unlike T7 battleships, they are covered in 32mm - not 26mm. So they are not overmatched by everything and do not spontaneously combust when bottom tier. Thunderer is the dumbest ship in the entire game and it's never going to stop, every content creator said it's easy to do 300K damage in them so everyone got one. Content creators did not lie, look at any 40% WR pepega, if he has thunderer, his damage record is 350K-375K in Thunderer, it's so easy your dog could do it. This is not like Smolensk where many people got one and you see them less overtime, battleships are 10X more popular, everyone got one. And potatoes have no reason to play anything else because Thunderer lets them get 200K every game from the J-line, they never do 75K in anything else, why would they stop. The only way to balance it is community-balance, if enough people hate this ship and focus it, you'll start seeing it less, that's what happened to Smolensk. If you're a carrier, be the good guy for once, bomb the thunderer. If you're a destroyer, don't yolo the jean bart 7km away from you, waste some time and yolo the thunderer 11km away from you, if you're in a hindenburg, don't spam the montana, spam the thunderer. If 2 ships are spamming you, put out Thunderer's fires but don't put out the fires from whatever else is spamming you. If you meet them in ranked, do whatever you can to make sure thunderer does not save his/her star etc.

You can do this wargaming, you would not be nerfing a specific premium ship (that's single handedly ruining T10 for everyone) it's a general change to the game.

I've had this multiple times recently, reversing should work but doesn't, you want to do forward, back, forward back etc until you get unstuck. Sometimes you're just stuck there until you die though.

Imagine calling hurricane league players potatoes, calling yourself an expert and making this topic in a timespan of 4 hours.

Even a PVE player can join a dead clan or an oil-only clan with all the upgrades for 5% extra ship xp, 5% extra free xp, 10% extra captain xp, 15% cheaper ships, 15% cheaper service cost of ships, 10% more coal and 10% more steel. It basically makes 'the grind' about 10% easier.

Not my fault the game comes with a built-in lie detector.

Deal if battleships get 15K HP instead of 100K, no armor thicker than 19mm and no guns larger than 130mm. Or give destroyers 100K HP, 575mm plating and 457mm guns, that works too. edit: please be kind!

She's great as long as you remember 356mm is safe and 380mm you nope out. She's covered in 25mm so unlike other heavy cruisers, she can bounce 356mm all day. The downside of being covered in 25mm is this includes her deck armor, so 380mm will overmatch+citadel+devastate you from any angle and any range, even through your deck. You're a floating citadel with 25mm plating, it's fine against 356 but 380 will one-shot you. The firepower though is hilarious, especially against other cruisers.

Your experience with this game is 300 rounds of killing bots. The people you're mocking are top 0.1% of the playerbase. This is like your grandma walking up to Ronaldo and laughing at his very unimpressive football career.

T61 is not meh at anything, she is the best or the 2nd best at everything . Best torps, 3nd best concealment, 2nd best healthpool and 2nd best DPM. She's beaten only by farragut in DPM but has far better ballistics and 1/4 pen. Asashio is great too in her own way, I'd consider that. Haida is great obviously but I ignore commonwealth premiums because there's no commonwealth tech tree, there's no commonwealth captains, you'd have to spend 3 million elite xp per ship per captain to get it up and running.

Worst ship for the game : Thunderer. Worst ship in the game : Pick a low tier french DD, they don't get the speed yet, no smoke, no concealment, they don't get the reload booster yet, no AA, their only purpose is prolonged target practice for carriers. I played Jaguar a few times and every time the enemy CV chased me around the map with one squadron of planes the entire duration of the match. It was so silly I laughed at it. A guy in a ranger chased me around for 14 minutes and in that 14 minutes I shot down one airplane. Colorado is probably a contender too, every time you shoot one it turns around and "runs away" at 14 knots while you laugh and say haha run piggy run. I actually say that out loud when I shoot one and think of something like this. But it has 406mm guns so it can't be the worst. The actual worst ship in the game I think is hipper.

I got 10K coal from -80% deals and played a few rounds to get the akizuki camo, it was pretty fun but I got what I wanted and like the normal game more.

I was sitting on half a million coal when she was removed and always resisted getting one because 250K damage should not be an easy point-and-click adventure for people who installed the game last month.

I'm DD main, at high tier I play DD exclusively, because of thunderer. I made this poll because I'd like to play T10 BBs again one day and I obviously won't do that because 90% of the queue is a ship that consistently sets a triple fire every 21 seconds on everyone in a 27km radius.

27 thunderer owners voted in my poll

Thunderer? Who said anything about Thunderer. I wasn't talking about thunderer General change in game mechanics hihi

If you're in a kamikaze + double Giulio Cesare division you kinda forfeit the right to complain about matchmaker in my opinion

She edits them because the game changes. The format of her reviews is all the objective information you could want and a short opinion, I disagree with her opinion on some ships too (sometimes) but that doesn't make her reviews inaccurate. OP's question : If you can't decide between two very mediocre ships, you should save your coal/steel until there's a coal ship you really want. Getting a quarter million coal is time consuming, don't blow it on a ship you don't really want. I know you don't really want either because if you did, you wouldn't be asking this question.

There's 5 US CAs, 3 of them have triple turret layout, 2 of them have quad turret layout. You're making it sound as if two out of five is some kind of freak accident. Half the heavy cruisers in the game are quad turret layout.