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Lightning has all that too, and hydro, and guns that do damage and dont need 35 seconds to turn around. I dont know, maybe ill skip it, maybe ill do it some other time, probably not, no ship has ever pissed me off this much. I dont like torpedoes, I barely ever use them and thats all this thing has, sort of. So maybe in a torpedo boat I really am a potato

I actually look forward to yugumo, well I don't look forward to it but I know I'm good enough to make it work even if it's not great, gun range goes from pepega 9km to 12km, torps go from 10km to 12km and even if it is outgunned, it's less outgunned by everything else.

That's true, and I did have pretty bad luck in those, faced a nocap division des moines double austin twice on my flank. I don't want to call for help to win some games in it though, I could do that but I haven't needed that with any other ship. I really want to know what I'm supposed to do in it, do I really go TRB to make the ship stronger and just "concede" that I am dead no matter what in a CV game? Should I even fight other DDs in it at all or just avoid everyone and do what 41% WR shimakaes do in T10 like go wide and spam torps at battleships? Is this unironically how you should play ships like this?

I considered that, but with TRB instead of smoke it's all or nothing. No CV = Better chance of a decent game CV = You spawn dead, might as well drive into the cap circle and wait to die

I know, I'm just salty, I've made every ship work for me since last summer, especially DDs and this one ruined my entire day. I spent all day trying to beat one other ship and I just got bullied all day. I went up 10 lines since last summer, I enjoyed every ship except Donskoi, but this thing I hate so much and I feel like shlt after getting bullied all day.

That's the thing, I can't tell the difference between a Shiratsuyu and this thing, both just have 2X4 10km torps and that's pretty much it. But Shiratsuyu is a T7 and doesn't have to deal with Darings and T10 CVs bullying you. Anyway, I have to stop playing this thing, I hate it and I'm going to waste 300 camos on it getting 250 base XP games trying to get to yugumo and drag my winrate through the gutter if I play it anymore. I do not understand how this ship is a T8, I would unironically rather be in my T61 even in a T10 game, you can hydro push something, same dpm, same hp, it doesn't have battleship turret traverse. Nothing about Kagero says T8 ship, it's like a handicapped akizuki without guns.

Didn't say I get bullied by a half HP T6, I said I get bullied by a T61. I also get bullied by other T8s, stuff like lightning and akizuki is just laughing at me. I understand Kagero isn't supposed to 1v1 gunboat DDs, I'm not asking what it isn't good at, that's obvious. I want to know what it is good at, because all I'm seeing is 2X4 10km torps, akizuki has that too and on akizuki the torps are an after thought, if you took the torps off my akizuki I wouldn't even care, and that's the only tool kagero has. Anyway forget it, I'll just free xp it, or swap smoke for torpedo reload, stack signals for 25.000xp games and yolo stuff to get it over with.

Pete I'm at 62% solo WR +- 2500 games since august of last year, I'm not asking how to play world of warships. I'm asking what the supposed strength of this particular boat is because I have never struggled in a boat like this. I don't know what to do in it. I can't gun down enemy destroyers for obvious reasons. All it has is 2X4 10km torps but everyone and their mom is running hydro as DefAA doesn't do anything. The max range of my guns is less than the minimum range of any radar in the game. I just don't see how, even in theory, this ship is supposed to compete with something like lightning or akizuki. It feels like an Akizuki that's missing 1/2 of its DPM, 1/3 of its HP, 1/4 of its gun range and 95% of its AA. I don't understand how I'm supposed to kill someone in this. I can't shoot destroyers because it can't beat any other destroyer in a duel. I can't gunboat cruisers for obvious reasons. I can't torpedo cruisers because everyone and their mom has hydro or radar, usually both, the only people who clicked on DefAA in the last 2 years were drunk when they did it. I could theoretically go "flanking pepega" to chase some battleship like so you see so many pepega shimas do at T10, but that only works if you somehow slip your way through the lines of destroyers and cruisers, both of which dumpster you, and the enemy carrier has to be very nice to let you do it and the battleships can't use their Q or E keys. If all of that works out perfectly in my favour, I can pretend I'm an akizuki without guns in the enemy spawn.

Gave up, it doesn't just feel bad, it's humiliating, I'm getting bullied by T6 CVs, getting bullied by T61, I'm terrified of every ship in its matchmaking spread, even T6. Going to FXP a ship for the first time. It's probably me, just kinda weird I've been playing really well for 9 months, grinded through ten lines, did well in everything and this thing I feel bullied and humiliated by every ship I face. The only ship I played in the last 9 months that felt bad was Donskoi but this thing is just humiliating. I can't beat T6 DDs or a half HP T8 even if I don't miss a single shot, they just don't care and spray me down.

If you play the game you'll unlock/get to buy premiums, all of which will be removed at some point and you too will have ships others don't. One of the most busted premiums ever is for sale right now, german destroyer, tier 6, look it up. It's so busted someone at wargaming came out and said they screwed up balancing it to ready it for some event. People who started recently got Georgia, Thunderer and Alaska, all busted premiums. If you just stick around you'll get busted premiums too. No, you don't get a token to buy whichever busted premium you want, stick around, play and pay attention to when busted ships are released, buy them asap before they get removed like everyone else.

The build Dfens posted with SI as the last pick because it's the least important one, lightning doesn't have a heal and jutland/daring have a crappy heal. For your last remaining point, I suggest clicking on something blindfolded, it doesn't matter, they all do nothing.

That's it, I'm an atheist now, no god would be so unjust when distributing braincells

its april 1st joke, click on it, free stuff

Kagero and by extension probably all torpedo-focused destroyers, I always thought torpedo DDs looked dumb so I never tried them, now I am going down the shimakaze line to have an extra T10 and I hate torpedo DDs as much as I thought I would. I hate torpedoes, so much RNG, one hydro = you are useless brick for 3 minutes and the only way to kill enemy destroyers is hope they sit in their smoke jacking off or hope the ships behind you are not stupid. Im going to suffer through Kagero and Yugumo for an extra T10 but im never going to play shimakaze or play another torpedo boat after these. I used to laugh at torpedo boats being useless "flankers" fail-torping a battleship for 10 minutes but now I know it's the only way to play these dumb things if ships behind you won't support. Can't wait to get back in my gunboats so I don't need support.

I didnt shoot, and I just tested it out for myself, CV can just follow AA tracers and blap you in smoke, I could do it on the first attempt. Learn something new every day I guess, if a destroyer even dares to try to shoot down an airplane, the CV will know your exact location so it can bomb you to death in your smoke, because you sinned against wargamings pet class and tried to shoot one of their precious planes. Carriers are a tumor on an otherwise beautiful game, its disgusting, even smoke does not hide your from planes, it hides you from everything else but not planes

Every time I learn something new I hate this stupid class even more, a lexington was constantly dropping my yugumo in smoke, I wanted to learn how, apparently if you use AA in smoke and move around in it to avoid getting dropped, a good CV can use your AA tracers to pinpoint your location and drop you in your smoke. How much cuddling does this dumb class need if a destroyer cant even turn his AA on when hes in a smoke cloud. If you want to make sure CVs get played despite the fact that they are mind numbingly boring, just give them a consumable to randomly detonate a ship of choice. You cant have AA on when driving around cuz they will find you quicker and kill you quicker, you cant have it on when you are smoked up cuz they will kill you in your smoke. Why give destroyers any AA at all? Its already trash, at least let me use it a bit so I can enjoy the fantasy of counter-play, dont worry I wont kill any planes, I promise

Sir, SIR, there is a dedicated topic for this

I retract my earlier statement and wish to add Giulio Cesare, Belfast and Musashi to my shopping cart. *edit oh and Enterprise, never know when I want to play CVs I might as well play the broken one.

The whole point of these premiums is that they are rare, I wish I had a musashi, when I see a musashi, that guy earned musashi before I was even playing, good for him, I see one and I think damn wish I was playing back then. 2 years from now people will see my Georgia they'll think thesame. Unless they are a child, in which case they will instead think WHY YOU HAVE AND I NO HAVE - I ALSO HAVE? GIVE ME ALSO.

Or just get Dazzle instead so nobody can shoot you I'm joking please don't get dazzle it doesn't work

It's ok but it won't do anything a north carolina or vladivostok can't, I tend to get stuff that's either very good or unique/weird. Good matchmaking though, I feel like T8 is the place to be now for battleships, you avoid most of the Thunderer spam and if you do find yourself bottom tier, you have 32mm plating just like a T10, you don't get overmatched by everything like a T7.

I like it, because it goes both ways, you detonate someone sometimes. It's obviously cringe in ranked and clan battles but that's what the flags are for. I don't know why CVs are immune to it but they're also immune to fire, flooding and being shot... So WG just went for the full package I guess.

It saves me time, no need to alt-tab to MMM to know that particular DD is going to be very useless. Or he's playing 4D chess and pretending to be useless like @Excavatus but I don't think that's very common.

This triple BB division was on my team just now, they sat there for the last 7 minutes of the game doing nothing while the enemy minsk got all 4 caps. When asked why they wanted to sit there for 7 minutes they said minsk has scary 4km torpedoes. Do I make an I HATE BB DIVISIONS topic now? They also sat there for the first 13 minutes of the game by the way.

3 full HP BB division sat in spawn for 7 minutes instead of fighting 3v2, meanwhile an enemy minsk got all 4 caps for the enemy team. When asked why they said minsk has torpedoes, when told minsk has 4km torpedoes and sitting there for 7 mins will be very boring and we will lose, they muted me. So they sat there, 7 minutes, doing nothing, while the enemy minsk got 4 caps.