AnotherDuck

I'd just recommend the US line because of the split. If you don't like Myoko, you're probably not going to like that line anyway. And that's a very fun ship to play.

This is the ship I'd go with as well. Sealclubbing aside, you have a ton of tanking power to withstand just about anything outside a focused torpedo strike, the HE will citadel all cruisers you meet and burn up everything you look at, and the AP will wreck any BB who thinks you're only shooting HE and shows a broadside. It's the kind of BB you go DD hunting in just to have something of a challenge. For this reason, Shima should have better concealment. That's probably the most appropriate buff the ship could get. All other IJN DDs (except the odd duck) have good to great stealth.

I actually liked playing Emerald, and that was back when you had to slow down long before deploying smoke. It is, however, a tricky ship to play, so you're going to get deleted a lot unless you know what you're doing. If you learn how to play this ship, you'll have little problems with the following ships, since they play much the same but are much better (Leander has a smaller citadel, and Fiji has a lot more firepower, among other things). Find hiding places and never, ever broadside anything at all if you can avoid it since anything can and will citadel you. Learn when and how to use your smoke. That's not going to change in any significant way in the line. In that way, the ship is kind of a skill gate for the later ships. If you think you'll just grind or free-xp past this ship without that knowledge, you're going to be underprepared for what's coming.

I prefer Takao as well. And totally not because I like at least two other Takaos more. The damage CGs look like someone drew their bodies and clothes on two different layers and just randomly erased some clothing. And on the whole, the shading makes the CGs look very two-dimensional, which is especially wrong for those characters. Uniforms could use some tweaks, but not that much. The front skirt bit on Atago looks a little weird and out of place compared to the rest of the uniform, and both are a bit too short. I've not even had time to start the event properly, but Tashkent is probably the only thing I'm looking forward to. No idea whether I'll have time to complete the event, but then, I usually wait before I start and complete it very late anyway, so I suppose it's normal for me.

I agree with OP. Getting Estuary with my lol-secondary specced Bismarck is almost as much of a pain as getting a non-CV Ocean in my IJN DDs.

And in that class, one of them stands out so much people forget she's a Fubuki-class destroyer. As for Intrepid, I kinda don't care that much. Just yet another CV. The design isn't that bad either, even for the potato ships. Only ship this event that stands out for me is Tashkent. She's nice. I think their design is okay, but the art just falls flat. But mostly, people need to get over the only-thin ideal.

If you want realistic torpedo reloading, then I want realistic torpedo damage. Frequently sinking ships from one or two hits, little to no chance of repairing flooding at all, and pretty much completely undetectable Long Lance torpedoes. Deal?

I haven't played all ships, so I'm not going to comment on them. But for those I have, in order: I got ARP Myoko just before I got to the silver Myoko, which caused me to stop the entire line for quite a while just because the ship was so fun to play. Nowdays I still play ARP Ashigara as one of my mainstay ships. Anyway, ship's great. Awesome firepower, and one of the best tanking potentials for a cruiser. You can nuke DDs and angle against BBs with reasonable effect. It's also one of the best kiters, since your torpedoes have long range and good angles backwards, and she's agile enough to dodge most incoming shells, even if you occasionally turn enough to shoot your full broadside. While the HE is great, if you see a cruiser about to turn broadside, your AP still hurts a ton. Fiji also has great firepower, but like all RN CLs, you need a bit of time to do damage (unless against DDs, but few ships need time for that). You can't tank for crap, though, so you need to be careful even if you also need to be aggressive. If there are no DDs on your flank, you can easily fulfill a DD role. Yorck is an oddball. AP is crap at long and medium range, but awesome at close range. HE is very good for a German cruiser. Armour is very good for a cruiser, which allows you to tank surprisingly well, despite not having as much health as Myoko. Yorck is one of the better ships if you find those closed-off brawling areas (like the side caps of Shards), since's she's reasonable agile, has decent torpedoes, and the guns are excellent at close range, regardless of if you shoot AP or HE. At the same time, she also works as a long-range HE spammer. Mid range is actually the worst range to be at. Shchors is a long-range HE spammer. The guns hit their target at any range, even if you aim at DDs. The armour isn't there, but most of the time you can avoid shells since it will take them a while to get to you. You shouldn't forget that since you have great shell velocity, your AP shells will also penetrate relatively well at long range as well, so if you spot a broadside, shoot them.

Let me guess, enemy team thought they had the game in the bag, and wanted to kill you all, so they approached your collected group of ships one by one and died one by one?

I find that the best number of DDs is two, maybe three if one can sneak a cap alone (preferably me ), if one is a cruiser like Khaba, or if one happens to die early. The team can't generally support more than two DDs capping without spreading too thin.

Yeah, RN CLs have insane engines for acceleration and keeping speed up in turns. They accelerate in turns at far higher speeds than any other ship. Which makes it hard to run away from them. Using a speed flag with Shimakaze is recommended. It's a reasonably fast ship normally, and with speedflag you get a very respectable speed that can outrun just about all ship that aren't Russian DDs. That gives you a much greater flexibility in what routes you can take and how much you can flank (which is good for finding torpedo angles).

Yeah, it really depends on the ship and how you play them. In my Shima I usually make a profit. If I play selfishly. If I play for the team (capping, spotting) it's more hit-or-miss, which means it depends on whether I manage to farm damage while doing that too.

Same name as the cruiser proposed several times as one of the more notable ships during WWII. And the sub is too late to be included.

Swedish DDs having extremely fast but fewer guns is an interesting difference from others. Being stealthy also fits well with them. Swedish neutrality during WWII is always a debated topic. But something people don't mention a lot is that both sides of the war threatened to invade Sweden, not just Germany. As a country, officially, Sweden was neutral. As companies and individuals, the whole spectrum was represented.

For the skills, I personally use PM, LS, AR, TAE, SE, CE, and RL. I don't think PT is worth it, since most of the time you can pretty much count on everyone aiming at you anyway when you're spotted, and you should remain unspotted for as much as possible. Speccing for torpedoes, survivability, and stealth is generally better than speccing for guns. If you do go for a gun spec, you should probably focus on it, and make sure it fits with your playstyle. Since your DPS isn't good, focusing on fires is probably better overall, but I've not tried it much since my old pre-nerf gunboat specced Fubuki. Just remember that if you go gunboat, your torpedo damage will go down significantly. People know where you are, and will avoid you more (or go in with the tools against you). While the guns aren't as crap as people say, they're not your main weapons. They should mainly be used while kiting, finishing off others, or when you've got more allies than enemies. If you see a target turning away from your torpedoes, you can fire at them to make yourself visible and maybe make them turn. It sometimes works, although it may not be worth it. Learn what angles you should attack ships from. Being right at your own BBs means the enemies will be angled towards you, which isn't good. Get a semi-flanking position in the direction the enemies aren't facing (they're usually facing slightly to the side of your BBs for about a 10°-30° angle), and you'll get a better broadside. Your torpedoes travel at 67 kn, so many ships are around half as fast (BBs are 27-33 kn, CAs 32-36 kn), so the torpedoes will travel approximately twice as long as most targets before they hit. That's good to remember if you don't have an indicator on your target, or if you want to preemtively aim your torps. Ships also slow down when they turn, so take that into account so you don't overshoot as often. If someone's sitting still, get as close as you can, observe them with the torpedo hit indicator all that time to learn their predictability, and nuke them. The 12 km range is the max, not the recommended range to shoot torpedoes at. Always get as close as you safely can. It's good to aim for 500 m outside detection. Keep track of radars and sonars. Radar ships you can torp at about 8-10 km if they're busy elsewhere and permanently detected anyway, but if they're stealthed up and you're the only one spotting them, keep away. If you know they've used their radar recently, you can make a run as well, but they're often retreating then, which is not good for you. RL is a great tool for keeping undetected, and figure out where unspotted ships are.

The benefit of not taking citadel hits is that you can use your heals to a greater extent. But that also requires surviving long enough to use them all. You can also still angle, but it doesn't mean bowtanking everything. It means you show a broadside for people to think they can shoot your side, and then you angle in to bounce a lot of it. Exactly what angle is best is a little different for each ship, but it should come if you practice. When to push and when to pull back is extremely important if you play a front-line battleship. Always have an exit strategy, and make sure you have friends with you when you push. Communicate, and follow your DDs. That's usually the best method that works for me. I find that people are generally more inclined to follow and support the German BBs in pushing since they are known for their tankiness and good pushing potential. Just know your limits.

Well, I'd pick BFT for a DD over DE any day of the week. The fire increase is 10% with BFT, but 40% (2% to the base 5%) with DE, so those aren't all that comparable. That's excluding how various fire resistances work, since I'm not sure how those work exactly.

Picking IFHE is mostly irrelevant for whether you pick DE on an Akiduki build. That's a 4p skill, while DE and BFT are 3p. Still, the choice is generally left to pick two of the three decent 3p skills, unless you want to give up CE to have all three, which I wouldn't recommend. 1: PM. 2: AR, LS. 3: Two of SE, BFT, and DE. 4: IFHE, CE. This choice is more open than for the other IJN DDs. You've got a good base health already, so SE gives less of an advantage compared to for other DDs, but it's still a very solid pick. The choice between BFT and DE depends, as usual for DDs, on whether you fight mostly DDs or larger ships. The extra DPS of BFT is always welcome, but DE gives a substantial boost in fire chance, since it's not that high to begin with, and the boost is absolute rather than relative.

Just in gun duels, you can probably squeeze out more damage with the extra health of SE than with DE. However, DE is really more for getting just a little bit more fire damage. But how much fire damage do you generally do, compared to straight gun damage or torpedoes? I find that DE works with the American guns, but not with the Japanese guns. Overall, I'd still favour SE over DE in any DD.

If that's the sole reason, it's not really worse, since vertical spread is on the horizontal plane, and you're hitting that plane at an angle. The flatter the angle, the more vertical spread you have for the same accuracy, but the ship isn't ony on the horizontal plane. If you fired a laser, which has the flattest possible angle, you'd have an infinite vertical spread since a horizontal shot would never hit the water, but could still hit the target.

Izumo has better accuracy on all counts other than number of shells. Mostly, shell velocity is faster, so it's easier to hit at longer ranges (and the penetration is better). The dispersion at max range is slightly worse, but since the dispersion doesn't go up as much as the range does, it's actually better there as well. Amagi feels more accurate because you have more shells in the air that can hit, so you're going to have a higher hit count. There's also that Amagi is one of the best battleships tier for tier, while Izumo... isn't.

That's the best plan if you want to take advantage of WG's wonderful spotting mechanic. The best way to earn anything from that is to make your allies blind, so you're the only one spotting. Hide your enemies from your allies, not the other way around.

No, you just whine when others say BBs shouldn't have CA tools. Is it impossible for you to make an argument that isn't an ad hominem? Yes, I play mostly DDs, but I also play a significant amount of other ships. You don't play a significant amount of DDs, so your argument about mine being more biased is bullcrap. So since you clearly show a complete lack of understanding of how DDs play, I don't think you should comment on them. You don't have a clue about how to play DDs if that's how you think DDs should play, so why should anyone listen to you?

Kirov is a citadel with guns on it, and it's one of the most specialised snipers in the game. Anyone can citadel you at any range (and many ships from any angle), but on the other side, you can citadel any cruiser and some battleships at any range if they show broadside, but unlike battleships, you can reliably hit at that range. I don't think longest range citadel is interesting for battleships, since most people have gotten those spotter-plane range citadels at one point or another, so it's more a question of which ship has longer range. For some cruisers, especially the Russian ones, citadels happen at any range to any target dumb enough to show broadside. Destroyers, on the other hand, struggle more with long-range citadels.

Probably a max-range shot in Benson.