Jvd2000

I would buy a Dutch cruiser, but as stated before the only ships (IMO) that would be somehow competitive (aka not Krasny Krim like) and fits the timeline is the "Eendracht". That is the "Seven Provinces" class in its original configuration with 2x 3 and 2x2 guns (for a total of 10X 152 mm main) at tier VI. Armor would still be meh, AA would be OK, speed would be average and shell speed would again be better then Cleve and la Galissonnière and worse then Nurnberg, Budy and Duca. Torps will be English like. Not a bad ship, one gun more then average. Losing out on Cleveland but with better arcs. OK AA. Maybe juke a bit with extra options like sonar and Air defense like the Duca. De Ruyter would face a bad fight at tier V with bad armor and only 7 guns. The Java would be like the Karlsruhe at tier IV. Dont even mention the Holland class (HMNS Gelderland) Dutch destroyers would be ok starting with Admiralen class and Gerard Callenburgh would be great and competitive at their tiers. Wolf class would be bad. Project 1047 would be great as an less armored Scharnhorst without torps but higher speed and even better AA (dual purpose secondaries) We can dream...

You can also go for the "cheap" captain skill version and take the 3-point BFT skill augmented with the AA flag. BFT now gives a 20% dmg bonus. In addition it helps your secondaries (although that is just a small bonus for a CA).

When starting a new captain the first few point are usually easy to place. For a cruiser I always start with Priority Target, Expert Marksman, an appropriate tier III skill and CE afterwards. For the first time with the new French cruiser line I am doubting EM. (I use my Clemson Cap on my Atlanta, my only non EM equipped cruiser)The turret reverse is so good i feel that the turret buff is wasted on the early cruisers. But I have to pick a lvl 2 captain skill. i see 2 good alternatives: Last stand? I had some engine/ rudder problems but I cannot yet say it has been bad luck or its problematic due to the bad armor. Adrenaline rush? You lose HP very fast so (if you survive) you can offset that bad reload with some seconds. I hate to spend doubloons for respec so my choice will be fixed and my final captain for the keeper French cruiser (IV, V or VI). My Dunkerque captain will be sailing the Tier VII and ups afterwards. Any advice? Your choices?

Played my Konig today after the new 0.6.4 patch. WG really ruined my ship It had the best accurate guns of the German BB line to compensate the low caliber. It was competitive at tier V and I even had good games at VII matches as long as the enemy makes the ignore you because " only tier V'. RIP Konig, 20-04-2017

Thanks, I wonder how much this will hurt the playstyle of the Konig. The accuracy (and the ROF) is one of the main strenghts of this BB, offsetting its limited guncaliber. When i destroy a broadsailing cruisers or aim at the upper works/ upper hull of an enemy BB (when aiming at the armored hull will be bounced) its the accuracy that makes it happen. Sigma 1.8 (instead of 2.0) is comparable with the other tier V BB's ? I considered Konig good but never OP to merit such a nerf. Especially when being uptiered to VI and VII. Not yet towards the 14th point so will try out the " new" Konig and keep my points on standby until then. Adrenaline rush is indeed a good advice, ty. Vigilance i have less use for since i often employ WASD hack . The point regarding CE is clear. I will only profit from CE for the first minute that maybe saves me from one volley because i have less visibility or the one shot opportunity when closing in on an enemy unaware cruiser. choices choices

Most discussion about the new ARP missions is about the tier requirement for ARP Takao. Not so much about the actual requirements. In the end each game that you start in either your tier 9 or 10 ship will leave you without progress or one more step closer to the 50 victory threshold. And that outcome is largely dependent of the teams then your own expertise (be that good or bad). So its dependent on you grinding your way through battles and paying the repair bills. Fine. Next to the unique chance to get the ARP Takao (your free chance for an Atago clone) there is another ship that has never been available in Europe: ARP Nachi. Maybe less interesting for some of the playerbase (just another Myoko clone) she is the last of the sisters to be available and therefore a must for some to have. And unfortunately again one of the, potential, most frustrating mission. Having to kill 20 ships of each basic nations (excluding the UK) makes this a potential SK fest like we had during the first ARP missions in January this year. But now 2-3 tiers higher and based on nations instead of ship class. The negative feedback resulted in WG to change the following ARP missions to a more conservative dmg and hit based requirement. But no more. Sure at the start each kill (ex. British) will net you progress but in the end you will find out that while some countries will rapidly advance one nation will start lagging behind (worried about the Russians). People holding back shots to assure their kill, finding out that the game you just started does not have an eligible enemy to kill makes it just a repeat of the failure we had in January - February but at an even higher tier. My only hope is that not too much people will be overly interested in the Nachi that they will focus more on SK then "normal".

I have both Baltimore and NO and I will keep them both. I enjoyed them the moment I got them away from stock and into their better hulls. Baltimore had the 15 point captain (full concealment build is death to dd's), NO needs one more point (or wait for patch 6.0 live) for the needed CE skill. Dont go YOLO with them and always stay aware of your surroundings. Your AP is death to broadsiding enemy cruisers and PITA for BB's that forget to show you respect. I rate them almost equal with the exemption that if you suffer one bad hit on the NO your HP is low which will get you focused upon even more (because you are a low hp target). At least the Baltimore heals can repair a bit of HP. Both miss the instant kill threat towards BB because you have no torps though. For survivabilty the US cruisers are best (even if that's of limited use in the face of all that BB might) and always use your concealment when turning in face of nearby enemy ships..

Sure, if you cant beat the entire post, just attack a single line and ignore the context.. But ok, "no hard" stats have been changed but an unique ship previously bought for hard cash is now rather( temporarily) easily available. Not the specific premium benefits (they are still Atago only) but f.e. the unique cruiser repair capability at tier 8. Better to have used another word then premium, maybe less special or less unique. My bad. But i am happy with my Takao and I am want to see as much other players to enjoy her as well. And the same for Nachi. So if WG decides to give either away for free the 1st of januari (which they will not) it would be ok for me.

Maybe better to say that I have not much hope WG rethinks their former decision of thinking that the Nachi mission does not need change. Only way to influence WG Europe not to do this kind of idiotic missions is when they get fire from the financial department of HQ in Russia because of revenue loss... Which I will be happy to contribute to because i already closed my wallet... One of the most direct way i can influence as a costumer to tell WG EU i am not happy. I have Nachi, so I did the mission according to the current requirements. I care about the others that are still going through this mess. Call it empathy, something you seem to lack.. I bought a tier 9 just before they changed the Takao missions. I did not complain then and neither when my premium Atago got slightly less premium... My point is that if WG changes the mission and make Nachi much more reachable I would be more then ok with that too. Unlike some douchebags that enjoy other players pain and unwilling to share their " elite privilige"

So whats your favorite ARPEGGIO Voice Over?

Well not surprised you voted for Ashigara Nice you voted for Myoko, wondered she would get any votes.. I found her character/ voice difficult to "place". She is serious and strict but in a different way then Kongou and Hiei.

WG will release (if you meet some requirements) 3 extra avatars with their unique voice. Kirishima-bear, Gonzou and Iona. With a proper Iona captain available WG should use that too free up the voice of Kirishima for her true voice. Even if they do not you will experience Kirishima's voice when you pick the " bear Kirishima" version as captain. And then you can also do the rename trick as mentioned above.

With only 1/4 of our time remaining I have not much hope WG will find a solution that helps our struggling players with this mission. Easing the mission now would incur as much storm as not changing the mission at all. For me WG can decide to give Nachi freely away on the 31th december for all that killed 20 GER, US and JPN ships. I have Nachi but I dont see it as a prestige ship that I should guard as a special only for the lucky ones that fulfilled this stupid mission. Sure I worked (too stupidly) hard for it but I prefer to have it enjoyed by all then to guard it as a way to torment players not capable to invest the time or that have had just bad luck. WG said that they would evaluate the mission afterwards...But since evaluation is after the deadline (and the end of WG / ARPEGGIO cooperation) the evaluation result will be useless for the players handed out bad luck.

Always nice to have a new branch, so I will be thankful for the "gift". I play all the branches, ship types available until i reach my comfort zone (tier 7 for dd & CV, tier 8 for cruisers and BB) so I will certainly build up my German DD's accordingly. Depending on the way they play it will go rapidly or slow (still at Emerald for British CL's) But must say that all the possible new branches available (British BB, Italian Navy, French Navy) German dd's (and the JPN dd split) are not the most highly anticipated branch...

I currently have all the 4 basic tier 8 cruisers (all upgraded with premium camo) and the Atago. Reason I invested in premium camo is that I will stop at tier 8 (Bought the Baltimore because of initial Takoa mission requirement..duh) I have no urge to buy the PE since it's a worse Hipper in my opinion. Same reason I am not interested in the Kutnetsov since I already have the Chapayev. I will train the captains in the ships they are in because they will never be " promoted" to a tier 9. Dont need the extra money nor the XP since I am the final tier for what I will play. So only play for improving captain skill where the premium camo is already helping a lot. Finally of all the tier 8 ships, I dont like the Hipper, I do much better with the NO because of the much better concealment. Get within 10 km range and hit them with real heavy AP were it hurts.

As starter of his topic, just after the start of the ARP missions when everybody was still complaining about Takao being tier 9, i just finished the ARP Nachi mission. It was not fun, it was not appropriate and it cost me a lot of time. Did I became a better player? No, I changed my style, focused on kills moving to the map were you think the Russians ships are. Ignoring teamplay, only shooting at other enemy players if they are blockading your way towards the needed kill. Must say the number of games (together with my entire stack of dragon flags) did indeed promote 2 of my captains to skill 15 which with concealment skill helped a lot with aforementioned play style. I played so many close encounters with my tier 8 & 9 cruisers that if finished the 500 secondary hits almost at the same time as Nachi. 500 secondary hits with cruisers only.. Still finished a month in advance but the main problem of this mission is the unreliability of progress, I had 7 kills on one day while zero kills during a week. You cannot plan, you cannot influence progress. Its all outside your control. You can improve the odds a bit by playing a lot but thats it. Even today had a player offering 1000 doubloons for voluntary kill. Spent the entire game doing nothing in a corner waiting for a Kutuzov to show u while broadcasting his location in chat..Did not fire a shot.. It's a bad designed mission. It was obvious the day it started. Obvious to all except WG and some elitist players that feel better then the rest because they already have tier 10's ready and like to put extra salt into the wound. Next month I will play lovely low tier games, not touching tier 8+ with a 10 feet pole. Also because WG wants us to play those tiers I will not.

Ashigara, the wild action girl :0 Not my favorite voice though, a bit tiring. Like Kongo and Nachi VO (when I get her) the most. Kongo being stiff badass and Nachi for being the reserved Type. Haruna when she says Shazam . But all are ok compared to the horrible English voice Over... And no, Steven Seagal VO quality is not taken serious at all.

Do divisions have a higher risk of being lower tier in a match? (with exception of being tier x themselves offc ) This will dilute the impact of a division.

And Hindenburgs and Zao's are not fun either...

But only if they add "POI" as standard option under a F function key The seas will get salty...

I played mainly Atago last weekend..Just got the 5th captain skill (concealment) and have a nice 9.3 (or 9,5) km spotting range Although my joy was trashed since most times a got a MM with 4 tier X enemy BB and 1-2 IX BB's... But enough Atago's around last weekend in my games. I killed more Atago's then Russian ships..

All this when seeing the mental image (NOT a “RL”like sailor) dancing on the deck singing “carnival doja!” Just for once! Carnival Doja... OMG WG you forgot Maya! I ..I would even trade Takao...(heresy! boo!! hiss!!)

No, The risk of ruining a still even game because some player will start to bank on becoming "first loser" accepting loss even when not yet decided just to make sure they will be the last one standing doing safe damage to the other team. Torpedo spamming dd's and camping BB's taking potshots from 20 KM. Like we see nowadays..but only worse since it is rewarded.

Maybe for the next month they can change the Konigsberg into a Budyonn, Shchors or Chapayev? Preferably sailing in a straight line towards me?

Yes this, Last weekend I killed an Udeloi (tier 9 Rus dd) in the last second of a (lost) Match. He was teamed with 2 other ships actively baiting players to kill him. Which succeeded very well, therefore the loss of the game. In the end he withdrew to the map edge with a bit of health left. Unlucky for him I was at the same edge (with full concealment Balti) and radar killed him. He and his teammates were all tier 1 ranked players.. I lost 2 Karma point in that match while still being top 3 of my losing team, maybe a sore sunk winner On the other hand a 2nd kill was a sportive Leningrad that just sailed in the wrong channel towards my 10 Atago guns aiming at him. I thanked him for the kill with a nice "Your welcome" reply from him. So next to the people that play Russian ships to increase the play ability (or simply play like there is no mission) of this ill-designed mission there are also griefers that abuse it to make the awfull experience even worse.