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How will she be diffferent from the DM? We see a lot of Premiums released but in case of a 2nd (or even 3rd) ship in the same class I wonder what the actual “enrichment”(not counting $ for WG) for the game such premium gives?

Regarding US cruiser split: 1. Why downtier the US CA cruisers after all the recent buffs? WoW still regards them as UP and unfit for their current tier? 2. Will NO keep its radar and Balti its heal? 3. What about splitting the US cruiser line after tier VI, replacing Cleveland by the new Dallas as tier VI and then keeping the CA line as “it is” adding the CL as planned? 4. Will you also take into account the position of the 3 US premium cruisers (esp. Indianapolis) if you downtier 3 us CA’s.

But will these ships be silver or premium? I hope that they are part of the silver French line because the number of premiums is a bit overwhelming...

Only skip the t-22 (although small buff is coming) save the free xp to make sure your cap starts at 10 skill points when you take the tier VI out,

Honestly i always liked both Balti and NO. Kept both ships with premium camo. The recent reload buff and increase of concealment was just to sweeten the deal (ok they needed it to be more competitive). But I like there playstyle esp. after you get your captain concealment skill. Never played the buffed Pensacola but she packed a good punch. For me the downgrade of the old CA cruisers is kind of meh..Leaves a mess behind (what to do with tier VII Indianapolis?) IMO would have been better to make Dallas the tier VI cruiser as a sensible upgrade from the Omaha in in the combined line and only at tier VII make a split: the old unchanged CA line and the new CL cruiser line.

Fellow captains, I am close towards my 14th captain skillpoint for my dedicated Konig German BB. I spent 10 points (module protection,Expert markmanship, BFT & AFT) and looking now for a 2nd tier 4 skill. So 4 points to assign. My modules are centered around main battery buffs and repair. When in PVP i always take premium repair end Health. (reason why I took BFT instead of the skill that gives you +1 on these). I hardly use HE, AP almost all the way. I have problems on deciding.... Whats the best way to spent those four points? Taken into account the incoming Konig sigma nerf... (so I will keep the main battery module focus) Option 1. take a lvl 4 skill (cause i have been saving the points for a tier 4 skill) Looking at the tier 4 skills.. Concealment is ok-ish, my base concealment is not too bad. The manual secondaries is only a 15% buff on the tier so unlike its higher German brothers I find this underwhelming. I don't suffer fires that much so fireprotection skill looks meh too. Manual AA and HEAP are looking outright bad. Would pick CE. Option 2. Take lower skill points. There are some that could be ok. But if I take another skill 4 it is now or never. maybe the skill that improves torp visibility (although i am quite capable of getting not torped) or the one that enables faster reload when you lose HP. Option 3. Konig does not really needs,/ benefits from another skill, replace the captain with another skill 10 (the Graf Spee captain i received )and use this one for a ship that can use a lvl 14 captain much better.

Even worse, In the 1970’s the Turkish governement offered to give back (maybe not free) the battlecuiser Goeben back to the Germans. The socialist government of Germany refused because they though such a reminder of the “ evil imperialist” history of Germany was not good to save...So a part of European/German heritage was destroyed on purpose because of left wing dogma.

I really like my tier V BB’s. I have the (ARP) Kongo, Konig, Texas, Okt. Rev and will get the GC. Kept the Orion but when the nerfhammer hits that ship I might reconsider the Iron Duke. Getting uptiered is a common experience and requires you to changement your gameplay. Not that being a BB as low tier is as bad as tier V cruisers and CV’s being up against tier VII..but still. In which Tier V BB do you feel the most influencial / comfortable in a tier VII matchmaking?

The Yorck is just a strange duck in the German line. You go through nimble, hard AP hitting but squishy light cruisers (V& VI) to some sort of Heavy cruiser that has guns akin to the pre ww1 Armored cruiser Blucher with crap rotation and low shell speed. Its a firestarter first with only usefull AP at closer ranges. After the Yorck you proceed to the Hipper which is in line with the playstyle type of German cruiser until tier X. Although i find the Hipper (or Prinz Eugen) lacking in DPS esp. compared with the new cruisers (and buffed US and JPN tier 8’s)

I have played the Dunkerque for some time and it has been meh. Good games, bad games all depends much on the RNG of the guns. Now we have the Guilio Cesare, one tier lower: much better working guns (you actualy hit something (GC 1.9 sigma vs 1.5 sigma of the dunk) that are only slightly smaller in calibre), same speed, much better concealment, comparable aa and secondaries (with GC being one tier lower that is). Better manouverability... GC just humiliates the Dunk on all aspects outside pure HP and a bit of range of the main guns. And "the all guns in front bonus"" is only a bonus if the Dunk driver knows you should not bow tank with this ship. Can we just improve the Sigma on the Dunk a bit so that this ship atleast rewards good aiming? Does not have to be soviet railgun accuracy but maybe 1.7 or 1.8?

The old A-hull of teh Fuso, pain and nightmares are coming back.... And as a noob to increase the awfull range i bought the range upgrade first instead of the B-hull because i at that time did not understand the major range increase was included in that hull... Wonder why WG kept the A hull of the Myogi...they should remove it and sell it as a tier 3 Premium :)

But what do we seek in a premium ship? I mean playstyle wise next to the captain training skills etc.. Do we want the premium to be completely different in comparison with the silver counterpart? Mutsu vs Fuso, Atlanta vs Pensocola.. Do we want small tweaks.. North Carolina vs Alabama, Pensacola vs Indianapolis, Hipper vs Prinz Eugen Or outright better ship? Iowa vs Missouri, Texas vs NY.

The ISE class was only a very small improvement over the Fuso class with even a lessen favorable turret outlay. Even with a buffed aa it will need much tinkering to be usefull. Would have been perfect as a tier 6 Premium instead of the downtiered Mutsu.

Who needs HE spamming cruisers when you have the Royal Navy BB at your disposal!

Case if WG decides to do an incremental buff to the Dunk of 0,1 sigma increase would that really be noticable?

I wonder what the special “thing” will be on French BB’s. The Dunkek, beside her special config, has no special range of available modules etc. So maybe typical gun configuration for the higher tiers, good speed but a bit underwhelming aa?

I wonder when we will see all the premium US battleships (those ship classes that really existed) fillling up the tiers from tier 4 (Florida class) up to tier 7 (West Virginia after upgrade/rebuild). More interesting then another tier 8 South Dakota clone (where the lead ship is neglected..) Then again the British Revenge Class is still missing (a class of 5 ships not represented in this game!) But are we not getting close to premium ship saturation....?? Atleast in the BB compartment.?

Even if there was a need for another premium JPN BB, this ship again does not fullfill the requirements. When I started WoW the JPN BB line really lacked a good premium BB. Sure you had the Ishizuchi (that with the current buff is playable and since 6.12 gives a Nice 50% bonus xp) and the Mikasa but for high tier you are stuck with the Atago (Nice cruiser but not a BB). Then WG had the bright idea, just after removing several a-hulls, to downtier Nagato to her sistership Mutsu with less capabel shells no AA and gimmick torps. Then creating a Amagi clone, tinker something with speed, armor and accuracy and call it the Kii. So creating a ship thats in terms of play a copy of the Amagi while being worse in play style. Now they repeat the Nagato/Mutsu debacle by downtiering the Amagi to tier 7. While tier 7 is a good tier for a premium a stock Amagi with additioneel nerfs is again not my idea of a succesfull an enjoyable premium. And then we have the Mushasi incomming... Instead of the Mutsu and Ashitaka and Kii WG should have went for alternatives to fill the Premium JPN need. The ISE class as tier 6 Premium (the full BB outfit, not the Hybrid cv) OR Haruna (Kongo class) fully upgraded in her final config at tier VI. The Kii at tier 9 being an upgraded Amagi like she should have been. And finaly to fulfill the 7/8 slot maybe one of the battlecruiser designs Japan planned but never build during ww2. Furthermore a JPN premium cruiser is wanted to fill the gap between Yubari and Atago.

WG, thanks for upgrading the XP reward on lower ship's camo's (both premium doubloon camo as the camo of premium ships). Was always strange to see that my doubloon Budyonny camo was only 30% but the Graf Spee event reward camo was 50%. Now all premium (ship) camo give a 50% xp bonus for all tier VI and lower. Just makes those ships a bit more usefull in lvling captains. Also nice you upgrade the Bismarck/Hood events camo's!

And dont forget expert Marksmen, some ships can forgo this tier 2 skill and go for Adrenaline rush first and then take EM. Not this ship. 1 Preventive maintenance 2 Expert marksmen 3 Superintendent (for that extra repair and as a bonus that extra heal) 4 Concealment (dont give in that urge to spec aft, even if it looks as the ship ha massive aa, its short ranged and extremely vulnerable to HE) 5 Adrenaline Rush Thats 12 points, with the remaining 7 you might pick: Vigilance (3pts)(against torps) Fire prevention (4 pts) BFT and AFT combo (7pts) if you really want to go into the aa spec.

That sounds more like the Nikolai I. Tanky is not something that would pop up in my mind thinking about the Okt. Rev. It is nimble but your turrets will cope getting up with the movements. When you indeed meet a enemy dd close by hope you have the guns already pointing at him. But a free ship is nice to receive and when not uptiered it can play along with the other tier V's.

I want to revote: Guilio Cesare is best ship. had some games with it and it shits on all tier V's. Even my Dunkerque who sits one tier higher is pathetic compared to this Italian monster :) Happy to take this ship to a tier VII battle. GC vs Kongo: Concealment: GC much better Guns: GC (although range is still Kongo's strenght, GC has the HE advantage) Speed: benefit Kongo but GC is good enough outspeeding all BB ships in its MM range with exception to Scharn, Gneis, Kongo and Hood. (Dunk?) Manouverability: GC way better Armor: both are vulnerable facing 16 inchers AA and 2nd: both meh (for tier VII matches) Hp: Kongo wins this but HP goes fast when eating citadels and Kongo is a target easily spotted. We have a new tier v Imperator :) And GC looks better too

Since the Clan subforum is only about recruiting i will place this here for now.. In your clanharbor you can choose between 4 types of buildings. One type gives you discount for some tier ships, some give +3xp% for nationalities, one gives a 10% discount for repair and one for enlarging number of clanmembers. With only a small clan of 3 friends our income is limited. (500 - 600 oil a week) We already bought the very cheap shipyard for initial purchases of tier V & tier VI ships since that only cost us 250 oil total. For me silver is no langer relevant but my teammembers are new and just at tier IV and V. So buying their new V and VI ships slightly cheaper is an ok benefit. All the other buildings are much more oil demanding. Since we play cruiser and BB mainly its either saving up oil for the cruiser and BB 10 %repair discount (4000 & 5000 oil) or the national +3% xp bonus (2K oil / nation) for the nation we play most (US,JPN and GER) What is your stand on priority concerning clan harbor buildings?

Good idea!

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