Aotearas

PEBKAC. No need to nerf the battleships, it's the players' intelligence that needs buffing instead. Parents should've invested in premium education, maybe their kids wouldn't be such n00bs then.

Schiffe? Ich seh nur Boote.

Ah, being in the know is so satisfying when you can watch the others squirming around.

Dank Urkel?

It's quite clear from the video the ship he was originally talking about in his Mingles episode was the tier V König when he started to compare the simplified ship stats (which are vastly misleading mind you *coughClemsongunapgradecough*) of the fully upgraded König with the stock Kongou. At least for the original context of this thread: That said his impressions of the tier IX and X are typically mirrored by most people who've looked at the stats and size of those buggers.

Don Quiche

Flügelchen, eh?

Ranger?

Let's see if I'll hate the Nassau as much as I hated the Kawachi ... The Kaiser however looks pretty sweet. Not sure if it's possible ingame, but the Kaiser's gun layout did allow her to fire all guns in a broadside (albeit more or less necessitating you giving a perfectly flat broadside to get the respectively opposite wingturret on target), but that will mean the Kaiser actually can compete with the Wyoming in pure alpha weight for the first salvo at the very least. I think I'll like that ship aplenty. König looks like a New York more or less, but with better dpm at the cost of less (citadel) armour protection, so that'll probably be quite solid. Bayern will rock! Gneisenau, not sure. If the armour on her (and by extension the Scharnhorst) is actually enough to bounce 380+mm AP shells (so more than 26mm at least, 29mm even better as it would mean no 406/410mm shells overmatching) then it might just be an incredibly fun ship to play aggressively, brawling style. Bismarck is gonna Bismarck. Quite likely to have an as trollish armour as the Tirpitz and better AA at the expense of some manouvreability and the torpedoes. Will probably like that one plenty too. Friedrich der Große and Großer Kurfürst however ... let's just say that the competitive BB line ends with the Bismarck as far as my impression based on the stats goes. With high detectability, very large turning circle radii and slow ruddershift response times (even with HAS to spot torpedoes early it won't be easy to avoid them in such clunky ships if the enemy DD had set up an advantagous attack position) it makes the entire brawling qualities (good dpm at medium ranges and ostensibly good armour) of those two ships moot. I had hoped for well above average manouvreable ships with enough armour to be immune to Yamato's 460mm overmatching when angled properly and would've gladly traded range and ranged accuracy. Say a middle ground between the caliber monster Yamato and the dpm monster Montana, but those hopes seem to have been comprehensively dashed by WG.

Of course you forgot to take screenshots, or else everyone would be able to see your cheat interface. Two detonations on enemy ships in the same game, you h4xx0r!!1!eleven

Well, at least you tried to get into the action, so you got props for that. I've had a special New Mexico today who as toptier BB hid behind my Texas the entire time ... and then ran for it as soon as I inevitably died after getting focused and could no longer function as his meatshield. When called out on his suboptimal performance, he immediately went apeshit, called me a n00b (which is hilariously ironic given his stats (couldn't help but check ...)) and said he doesn't do suicide charges. As toptier BB in a New Mexico if I need to remind ... this guy could've tanked all of that for ages. He proceded to tell me to (and this is a direct quote!): "suck my [insert common word for male reproductive organ] u subhuman"

Hackusations are just a bad players seal of approval of your superiour skills (provided of course the recipient isn't actually cheating, duh). I like to call them "N00bel Prizes"

14.3 is the magic number ... in case anyone wants/needs to know. I do hope the bow armour is stronger than just 25mm, for the same reasons that Jingles mentioned in his video (380+ mm caliber shells overmatching). Then again as someone who's very much interested in acquiring the ship barring ludicrous pricing, I'm obviously a teensy bit biased in that regard

Is WG social vidya gaem, comrade. Kills are distributed amongst the proletariat. Is not fascist market where pig can just hog all kills for himself. Da? Extrasensory perception, i.e.: cheats that supply additional gamedata that's is typically hidden from the player. A minimap cheat for example.

RN BBs OP. That ridiculous concealment!!! I can't even see the bugger behind that rustbucket. NERF RN!!! NUUUUUURRRFFFFFFF!!!!

Silly you, we'll get USSR submarines with homing torpedoes first. With Sean Connery as premium captain!

To reiterate:

Just met Flamu as he was testing the german tier X Großer Kurfürst ... I fully exploited that by sticking near to him as long as possible and it worked like a charm, everyone was so focused on shooting him that I didn't even get shot out despite practically sailing right next to him in a bottom tier Amagi They only started shooting at me once I seperated from him to get at least SOME damage done, since the only thing for me to shoot at were angled Yamatos. Sadly our team won too fast for me to farm that broadside North Carolina, otherwise I might've actually made profit in the game if I had done a bit more damage

I do understand your point, though I would personally disagree with your reasoning. Not sure if I can articulate my line of thought correctly, but imho your situation would be less about division play inflating the relative performance of a ship as much as playing solo would be deflating it. As you said, playing with divisions and good players does improve your gameplay, but it doesn't improve the ship, you simply are enabled to get the most out of it. Conversely, playing solo when you don't have a couple buddies you can rely on to keep your back save and point out developments you need to react to doesn't make the ship worse, it just means you may not make as smart decisions during the battle and put your ship in situations where it doesn't perform at its maximum. That's why I said the performance stats don't change much. I'm not as good a player as Flamu, but I do value his opinion because it shows how a ship can potentionally perform, division or not. In the same way I do respect Jingles' assessment that the ship isn't going to be for everyone and can be tricky to do well in if a player that isn't as adapt at reading the battle to switch his tactics. Hope I explained my point of view better this time

Only if you think that winrate is an important stat to gauge a ship's performance, because that's arguably the only stat that divisions influence (due to more teamplay and coordination typically resulting in better results given the overall lack thereof in random games). Actual performance stats (average damage, etc.) stay true so any comments thusregarding are just as credible as when played solo.

Is it the Plebeian class at tier IV then?

Okay then, the Gneisenau it is. With armour so bad it should be renamed the Gnickelau